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Title: Question for all trainers
Post by: JENG on February 19, 2000, 11:09:00 AM
Hello trainergroup...

My question is... can all trainer post their relative fields of expertise? I know that leph is a killer in BnZ and in a F4u but I don't know about the rest of ya...

What I would like to see is some kind of organisation so we know to which trainer we have to direct our questions... for example I could use some hints on flying the 109, who's an 'experten' in all the 109 variants?

BEE
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Title: Question for all trainers
Post by: Sharky on February 19, 2000, 11:42:00 AM
Jeng,

I think that the trainers are fairly comfortable in all A/C and can help you with what ever plane you would like help with.  However having said that I'm sure that each of the trainers has his/her? own personnel favorite in which they spend most of their time and in which they are the most proficent.  So unless you are already an expert in 109s and you want some additional training by one of the 109 "Gods" so to speak any of the trainers should be able to help.

As for me my personnel best A/C is the Mustang although I find myself flying the 205 from time to time. (That plane was a pleasent suprise)

Sharky

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Title: Question for all trainers
Post by: Kieren on February 19, 2000, 12:07:00 PM
Jeng-

Fair enough question!

I fly all the a/c, though I tend to try to fly the plane that best suits a mission profile.

I seem to wind up defending bases against land-grabbers (hehe) so I do many anti-buff sorties- F4U-1C.

Of no base defense would be without its share of Nikki's, C205's, and Spits.

If I go for a lone-wolf patrol, I might grab a 109G2 or an La5.

Long range escort demands a P51.

Furball busting is a blast in the 190.

If you want to strike a base hard and quick, the B26 is the bird. If you have the time, a B17 can be unstoppable (given the time to climb).

NOE base captures can only be done in C47's.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Area of expertise? That's a hard one... I don't think I rise to the level of wizard in any of them; there are any number of people that are far better in any particular craft. My niche would probably be in the ability to fly any and be successful, and to be able to relate that experience to others.

When people ask me for help, it usually runs along the lines of "can you show me any tricks in the xxxxx?" The followup remark ususally goes something like "I can't seem to keep people off my six" or "How do I defeat someone diving on me from above?". My approach is usually to begin with some merges to see what that person might be doing. From there we can discuss merge tactics and such. We can progress to more advanced strategies after this point. The goal is to assess and develop (if necessary) the basic skills required for combat.

Now there certainly will be accomplished pilots that will come and ask for particular hints in specific a/c. I believe the best approach would be to discuss our experiences (what we've done and seen done) and experiment. I'm more than happy to be a target drone for practice!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Title: Question for all trainers
Post by: indian on February 19, 2000, 01:54:00 PM
 I perfer the Allied planes but can fly all the makes we have. I am not a good bomber though but can fly and hit with one. I have had 2 C47 missions in Aces high and one turned out not to be needed the other landed on the side of a mountian.
 My expertise if you needed to call it one is getting new guys up and flying. If you followed the message board much you may have seen the key command sheets I made, one of which is redone and on the download page I believe. I can do ACM and can fly a spit pretty good, I fly the F4U most because its my favorite plane. I can do good in the P51 also. I have the book of Shaw so if anyone needs ACM help can dimistrate it putting it to use is practice.
 You may notice that the trainers are not the best in the game we are just the most helpfull so far. What ever help is needed just ask.

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Title: Question for all trainers
Post by: Ripsnort on February 19, 2000, 06:51:00 PM
Short and sweet..I fly them all, but specialize in the 190.  Had RAM up for a 2 hour session in training arena last nite, talk about a challenge~ He's using a yoke, with no rudders,tough to train someone manuevers with that set-up..anyone have some old rudder pedals we can ship off to Spain for our good friend RAM?   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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Title: Question for all trainers
Post by: RAM on February 19, 2000, 07:34:00 PM
He Rip you can bet I need them...last day I asked in a shop about rudder pedals I nearly died from the shock...120$!!!!!
no way I can afford that...I must go ahead with my veteran CH Virtual Pilot... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
anyway Its fun to fly in Ah...

and thks Ripsnort for the training...wasw great!
Title: Question for all trainers
Post by: funked on February 19, 2000, 08:11:00 PM
Keep in mind that Pyro has stated the main purpose of the training cadre is to help beginner pilots.  So advanced topics like plane specialization are probably not going to be the bread and butter of the instructor corps.
Title: Question for all trainers
Post by: indian on February 19, 2000, 08:11:00 PM
They can be made cheaply do search in yahoo.

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Tommy (INDIAN) Toon
  Cherokee Indian
Home of The Allied Fighter Wing A.F.W.
A.F.W. Homepage (http://www.geocities.com/~tltoon)
Title: Question for all trainers
Post by: JENG on February 19, 2000, 08:41:00 PM
Thanks for the responses guys...   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

I've only seen leph in the training arena so far... (probably cause I fly GMT hours)... but I'll contact you when I need lessons... about now   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Seeya all and hats off guys

BEE
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PS: It's BEE... not JENG... I post on this BB under JENG (former handle) but in the arena I'm known as Bee... (nice little critter... into cooperation... nice colors... but a sharp sting  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)...)

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Title: Question for all trainers
Post by: Pongo on February 20, 2000, 03:11:00 AM
I am certainly not an expert in anything.
I fly all the planes and get good % kills with all. I like the FW and the 109f4 the best.
Looking at Bees scores I doubt that there is much I could tell him about ACM. But I dont think that a  52nd ranked player is our target audiance.
We are after the people that have fundimental frustrations with the game.
To them I could  pass on the following.

Why turning tightest and hardest is often counter productive.
How and why climbing to improve position in a dogfight is benifitial even though it slows you down..
I could teach how to avoid or deliver an HO. (see two planes above)
I would be good at teaching a newby the basics of flying and shooting, I could teach some one who didnt understand why they always end up at the recieving end why.
I have moved up and down the ladder enough that I could advise people on how to get rated above 350...
AH Radios 101...
How to make dinner for the kids between course changes..
What the map displays, how to customize it a little.
I could give a good lesson on convergence and its effects on the different planes.
I rarely miss with a bomb and I usually make it to the target so I could give a new person lots of advise about bombing.
I have shot down lots of bombers so can advise some one who thinks that is imposible or too hard how to improve.
I live and die by the support of my wingmen and squad mates, I could give excellent advice and demos of working togther to stay alive and win and finding people that will be there for you.
Plenty of experience at bailing and getting shot in the chute so I could give a comprehensive lesson on post aircraft survival.(no refunds on that one)
I have captured lots of bases, some lightly defended some heavily, I can give and excellent primer on using the goon in the game. Conversley I have bagged way more than my share of the wily goon..I can give excellent advise on how to find the goon and how to live through the encounter..
I suspect that most of the regular players in the game could do all of these things..I remember what it was like several months ago when I never knew any of it...I had 3 free months to pick it up, the new guys get 2 weeks...
I think what we really want to do is to lessen the frustration factor for new players as fast as possible. That can be alot of things other then the ACM 400. I know I am not the guy to teach advaced ACM.
Once the basics are understood all I can tell the guy is to hook up with Redstar or Wil or JadgNine or Leonid or Hang or(insert your favorite pilot here) and fly wing for them, try to keep them alive watch what they do and dont do. Some of those guys are trainers some are not, they all teach me alot.
There is a list even longer of the things that I cannot teach...
How to consistantly beat the better pilots in the game..
How to take out an ack with a fighter.
Fuel managment? (auto fuel thanks)
Very low speed ACM
How to tell when I am about to lose my wings..
How to concentrate on flying with all those alluring sheep.
Etc..
As I said Jeng(Bee) This will not help you much but if anyone else finds any of the items above incoprehensible I (or any of the trainers) could certainly shed some light on it for you. Some of it is tactical in nature so I hope you have RW if you want the details successful goon flying.
   

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The Wrecking Crew

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Title: Question for all trainers
Post by: Lephturn on February 20, 2000, 08:00:00 AM
Although I do fly the F4U-1D, I think my specialty is probably helping other pilots learn how to do things like use the radios and AH's fantastic view system.  Even many pilots who came from other sims will often miss many of the details that can help increase your SA in Aces High, and I Like to help out with those things.

I'll get the training corps organized in the next couple of weeks, and we'll see about getting "profiles" of the trainers posted someplace.  We'll include our favorite planes and/or area of specialty along with our email addresses and what not.  But all the trainers are competent pilots with a wide knowledge base.  Hook up with any trainer to work on your game, and if you get to a point where you want the most advanced tips on a specific aircraft or variant, we can help set you up with whomever is the experten in that particular bird.


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Title: Question for all trainers
Post by: Sorrow[S=A] on February 21, 2000, 07:06:00 PM
Bee, the top killers in each plane sort of stand out a bit, for example if you want advanced 109xxx tips I would strongly reccomend asking Hristo or Aper to show you them in the TA, either will do so quickly and happily for you. Mustang, once again stands out, Wardog or Hangtime either will jump in and help you quickly. As a rule if you look at the UBB you see quickly who specializes, I have had no problems asking them for tips or ACMI movies when trying hard to understand a concept.

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Title: Question for all trainers
Post by: Saintaw on February 22, 2000, 01:12:00 AM
 
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We are after the people that have fundimental frustrations with the game.
To them I could pass on the follwing.

Sounds like me!!!   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)


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Title: Question for all trainers
Post by: Minotaur on February 22, 2000, 11:01:00 AM
Bee;

I fly most planes, but have very limited time in 109's or 190's.

For the record, I do not pretend to be able to teach advanced ACM.  I did not sign on to do that.

I'll stick to what I know.  I hope to teach basic to intermediate BFM/ACM, game mechanics and getting new people set-up and flying in the game.

Mino

 

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Title: Question for all trainers
Post by: RANKER_ONE on February 23, 2000, 04:42:00 PM
Greeting good chaps!!

What about BOMBERS !!??!!
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 Best regards gents :)

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Title: Question for all trainers
Post by: tshred on February 24, 2000, 02:41:00 AM
Well, I'm a boom and zoomer kinda person. P51, P38 my fav a/c. Ground attack is really my specialtly tho, and I can also do well in a bomber. Oh yeah, running like hell has to be what I'm best at LOL. I'm also good at aerobatics, snap rolls, etc. What we need is some smoke to turn on  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

ts
Title: Question for all trainers
Post by: humble on February 27, 2000, 02:40:00 PM
Been gone all week so i'm playing catch up.

I spent about 4 yrs in AW, primarily as a pure T&Ber. I prefer angles to e fighting so my favorites..38 and f-6 aren't here yet. I fly everything but will be in line for 109 training my self  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif). I fly the pony, nikki and 205 here mostly but also will fly hog,spit and 190 some...once in a while i'll even wind up a 109 for a hop.
Title: Question for all trainers
Post by: Ghosth on March 09, 2000, 09:39:00 AM
HEHEHEh you need to watch Bee, he can be a wolf in sheeps clothing!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

I used to wing with him a lot and there isn't much that he misses. Actually I expect to see him in the trainers ranks in the near future.



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Maj Ghosth
XO 332nd Flying Mongrels