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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Dago on March 07, 2005, 11:13:36 AM
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I’ve got a gun, don’t come any farther,” shouted Toluca, Ill., homeowner Brad Burns. But the warnings went unheeded and Burns fired, killing the intruder who was later identified as Douglas Sullivan. The incident began that night at 2 a.m., when Sullivan began shouting and swearing outside the home loudly enough to wake the neighbors. Sullivan then used a playground slide to smash a window and enter the house. Burns sent his wife and child into a closet while he retrieved his gun. He tried to scare off the intruder, but to no avail. Marshall County State Attorney Paul Bauer declared the shooting justifiable, saying, “There is no doubt in my mind that they were in fear of their lives.” (Journal-Star, Toluca, IL, 10/27/04)
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Jewelry store owner Larry Dickerson was working in his Raleigh, N.C., store when he noticed that the three men who had come inside were acting suspiciously. Dickerson was making sure that his gun was handy when he noticed one man had taken a gun out of his pocket. “When he wheeled around, I hit the floor. He fired three shots at me,” said Dickerson. A retired police officer, Dickerson, who never fired a shot in more than 20 years of duty, returned fire. No one was injured in the exchange. The three men then fled the store and have not been apprehended. “You have to have a gun,” Dickerson said. “If I didn’t have it, I’d be dead.” (News-Observer, Raleigh, NC, 10/20/04)
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Nevada resident Dan Simmons was awakened early one morning by his houseguest who warned him that someone was trying to break into the house. The police were called, but no one was found. Shortly after the police left, a man approached the front door telling Simmons to come outside; he instead retrieved his gun. A moment later the glass in his front door shattered and the intruder made his way inside. Simmons fired, hitting the intruder, who in turn fled. Simmons said he believed the man may have at one time worked construction at his home. “I don’t feel safe. I am taking precautions,” Simmons later said of the incident, adding, “I advise everyone else in town to do the same.” (Pahrump Valley Times, Pahrump Valley, NV, 10/20/04)
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Eighty-year-old Lonnie Morgan was just trying to be of help when he showed a stranger to his garage to get a tool to fix his broken-down car. When they got to the garage, the intruder hit Morgan over the head with a barbell, knocking him unconscious. When Morgan regained consciousness, he returned to the house only to find the intruder attacking his wife with a lamp. Morgan offered to get money for the man, but instead retrieved his gun and shot the intruder once. Police charged the intruder with aggravated assault and battery. The Morgans were both listed in fair condition at a local hospital. (Savannah Morning News, Savannah, GA, 10/30/04)
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A Kingman, Ariz., man ended up in critical condition after a night of drunken and disorderly behavior. The night began when the man urinated in his neighbor’s back yard and refused to leave. The neighbor called the police not long after the man’s wife called them to report him for unruly and loud behavior. The third call to police came from another neighbor who said a man was trying to break down her door. He eventually forced his way into the house and, despite repeated warnings from the homeowners, refused to leave. The homeowner then shot the intruder once in the stomach. He was charged with felony first-degree criminal trespassing. (Kingman Daily Miner, Kingman, AZ, 11/07/04)
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In the dark of the night, an Eliot, Maine, homeowner was awakened to the sounds of pounding and screaming at his front door. David Oeser went to the entrance to find a 6-ft., 2-in., 330-lb. man breaking down his door. Oeser then fled to his bedroom but was followed by the intruder, who continued to scream incoherently. Oeser grabbed his gun and yelled several times, “Stop or I will shoot,” but the man kept coming. Oeser fired, hitting him once. The man was apprehended at the scene. Police later revealed that less than 24 hours earlier, the intruder had been arrested and given a psychiatric exam after an unprovoked attack on a man in a local restaurant. (Central Maine News, Eliot, ME, 11/05/04)
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A man came looking for some easy money from what he thought was an easy target, but left empty-handed. The clerk at the convenience store in Colbert Heights, Ala., recounts that he arrived for work at 5:20 a.m. and noticed someone in a car outside. Shortly thereafter, the man in the car entered the store and got a drink from the cooler. When he approached the counter, he produced a large knife and demanded all the money in the cash register. The clerk, in return, produced his gun and asked, “Do you want this or the money?” The robber fled the store, but was later apprehended and charged with first-degree robbery. (Times Daily, Florence, AL, 11/04/04)
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Here's a good one (http://www.sptimes.com/2004/11/13/Hillsborough/Accidental_shooting_i.shtml)
or this
kids will be kids (http://www.caledonianrecord.com/pages/local_news/story/6f4172411)
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I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish curval. If you wanted to kill someone, you would find a way.
If some stranger decided to break into your home, rape and strangle your wife, then kill your children, I bet you would be wishing you had a firearm.
Maybe instead you could just show the intruder examples of gun accidents and how others killed with differant types of weapons and he would succumb to your superior logic and crawl away?
dago
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Here is an example why Bermuda is safe without the citizens needing any way to defend themselves:
kids being kids (http://www.bermuda.org.uk/the_murder.htm)
We rarely hear about crime in Bermuda, I wonder why that is?
Could this be why? But its so safe! (http://www.bermuda.org.uk/crime_statistics.htm)
Every society has its problems to be sure, and the USA is no exception. One thing we do have in the USA is the right to keep and bear arms for use in our defense. That everyone doesnt practice safe storage and care is not a reason to deny the rights of the people.
dago
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I find it interesting, and a bit sad that when I share the Armed Citizen on this board, there are always those who have to make comments. I just find the articles interesting, I think others will too, and I dont bother in my post making any comments good or bad about gun ownership, but still, some have to have their say. Oh well.
dago
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It's too late to spit out the bait. The hook is already set.
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Dago,
Lets all move to Curval's island and swamp it's public assistance programs since the place is a paradice on earth. We could get 2 or 3 million of us to show up on the beaches and demand public services and our place in the sun. You game? Heck then we'd only need 7 irons to protect ourselves from any criminal elements.
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I didn't realize what a violent place bermuda was. I knew about the roving gangs of scooter theives but... the murders are terrible.
When they had guns they only killed useless royals and dogs... now they are killing inocent people during the commission of crime.
lazs
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No such thing as public assistance programs for foreigners here.
If you could get 2 or 3 million visitors here that would really help the tourism industry though and I'd appreciate it.
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sooo.... you just let foriegners bleed to death if they can't pay or starve to death or sleep on the streets or... or what?
lazs
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Originally posted by Dago
I find it interesting, and a bit sad that when I share the Armed Citizen on this board, there are always those who have to make comments. I just find the articles interesting, I think others will too, and I dont bother in my post making any comments good or bad about gun ownership, but still, some have to have their say. Oh well.
dago
After over 2200 posts you find it interesting to see someone make an opposing comment? Why?
"Insanity = Doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results"
btw.... nice post.
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The tourists who come here can't get in unless they have a hotel reservation or plan to stay with a resident.
If they can afford a hotel here...trust me...they can afford a hospital visit.
No hotel reservation, or a valid place to stay? You are on the next flight home.
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Originally posted by Dago
I find it interesting, and a bit sad that when I share the Armed Citizen on this board, there are always those who have to make comments. I just find the articles interesting, I think others will too, and I dont bother in my post making any comments good or bad about gun ownership, but still, some have to have their say. Oh well.
dago
Because it is a completely one-sides look at the gun debate. I could spend 10 minutes or less and come up with 20 more cases than you listed where they were used in to commit crimes. Those people were lucky they were better shots than the intruders.
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Well said Raider...but Dago knows this, he's been posting these things for so long he KNOWS that it simply sparks a gun debate., or in this case a debate about crime and social programs in Bermuda. LOL
It's sad really, but I play along for fun.
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Curval, only idiots keep there weapon loaded...
And only dumb****s clean several weapons at once...
That kid getting shot was obviously a case of having too many weapons out at once..
And of course keeping a weapon loaded...
I'm done ranting and what not, have fun....
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Originally posted by Hawklore
Curval, only idiots keep there weapon loaded...
And only dumb****s clean several weapons at once...
That kid getting shot was obviously a case of having too many weapons out at once..
And of course keeping a weapon loaded...
I'm done ranting and what not, have fun....
I clean my firearms all at once.
I also keep a loaded handgun on me at times.
I guess I'm a ******* idiot.
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They key to no gun acidents when cleaning?
Check to make sure its not loaded.
First time I handle any gun the first thing I do is check to see if it is loaded. Not mater who handed it to me.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
They key to no gun acidents when cleaning?
Check to make sure its not loaded.
First time I handle any gun the first thing I do is check to see if it is loaded. Not mater who handed it to me.
I was taught that before I started school.
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Me too.
It is the most basic of firearms safety.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
They key to no gun acidents when cleaning?
Check to make sure its not loaded.
First time I handle any gun the first thing I do is check to see if it is loaded. Not mater who handed it to me.
That's the rule... clear the gun, before you hand it to someone and clear it when you take it.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Me too.
It is the most basic of firearms safety.
Speaking of which, I take another course on Wednesday for my LTC renewal. MA sucks.
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Dago, was there some kind of Ripsnortian point behind the cut and paste or should we all just enjoy the stories?
Surely you wanted to advocate for something..... did you expect no dissent?
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I've yet to come across a gun store owner who dosn't check the gun and tell me it's clear, he checks it and hands it over, and I always check it myself..
But, this one came awfully close to my call the FFA...
I've also entered a gun store where they use bright orang barrel plugs on plastic weapons..
So I do the smart thing and ask if it's an airsoft gun, cause legally it is with the orange tip, the guy says oh no I sell real guns here...
Me and my mom laughed at him when we got in the car..
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MA sucks
And not just from its two senators either it seems!
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Originally posted by Sandman
That's the rule... clear the gun, before you hand it to someone and clear it when you take it.
If only they all did that. - As well as the ~10,000 gun homicides annually in the US, there are also ~16,000 deaths resulting from "accidental discharges". In the vast majority of cases, the person handling the gun "didn't know it was loaded".
Still, that's only ~26,000 gun deaths a year, or four times the population of the town where I live. A pittance worth paying for the right to bear arms. And hey - as Dago has shown, the balance was redressed on SEVEN occasions when guns saved the day. ^
(http://www.zen33071.zen.co.uk/jester.gif)
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Accidents happen, but you don't see us banning cars, roller skates, foods that people choke, on etc.
Human Error is the root of all.
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Originally posted by beet1e
If only they all did that. - As well as the ~10,000 gun homicides annually in the US, there are also ~16,000 deaths resulting from "accidental discharges". In the vast majority of cases, the person handling the gun "didn't know it was loaded".
Still, that's only ~26,000 gun deaths a year, or four times the population of the town where I live. A pittance worth paying for the right to bear arms. And hey - as Dago has shown, the balance was redressed on SEVEN occasions when guns saved the day. ^
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Ban alcohol. That causes more deaths a year than firearms.
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Originally posted by RTSigma
Accidents happen, but you don't see us banning cars, roller skates, foods that people choke, on etc.
Yeah, but you don't see thieves running into a bank carrying BK quarter pounders, and threatening to ram them down the throat of anyone who moves....
Ban alcohol. That causes more deaths a year than firearms.
In any country outside the US, more people die from alcohol abuse than bullets. Except violent arab countries where there is no alcohol allowed, but many, many guns.
In the US, the number of cases of cirrhosis of the liver is about 26,000 annually - so it's touch and go which causes more deaths - guns or alcohol.
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Oh oh, if you want to go that route, Martlet, we have to ban cars. Then teenage drivers. And women prone to PMS (I'd support that!)....amongst other things!
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Originally posted by LePaul
Oh oh, if you want to go that route, Martlet, we have to ban cars. Then teenage drivers. And women prone to PMS (I'd support that!)....amongst other things!
Ban protesting, white water rafting, hang nails....
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Originally posted by LePaul
Oh oh, if you want to go that route, Martlet, we have to ban cars. Then teenage drivers. And women prone to PMS (I'd support that!)....amongst other things!
People aren't necessarily asking for bannings. Take your parallel to cars, drivers are licensed, cars are registered and warranted as fit for the road. In NZ teenage drivers have a restricted license (curfew, restricted types of passengers etc).
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Vulcan, don't try and reason with them...they are off on a silly tangent now. Hang nails lol..
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Originally posted by Vulcan
People aren't necessarily asking for bannings. Take your parallel to cars, drivers are licensed, cars are registered and warranted as fit for the road. In NZ teenage drivers have a restricted license (curfew, restricted types of passengers etc).
NZ's driving laws have what to do with the US?
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About as much as hang-nails in a gun thread?
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In the US, the number of cases of cirrhosis of the liver is about 26,000 annually - so it's touch and go which causes more deaths - guns or alcohol.
Add in all the deaths from alcohol related vehicle accidents and alcohol comes up the winner.
It's not the alcohol or the guns that kill people, it's the people who make descions to drink and drive, or make descions to pick up a gun and shoot someone....people are the problem.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
They key to no gun acidents when cleaning?
Check to make sure its not loaded.
First time I handle any gun the first thing I do is check to see if it is loaded. Not mater who handed it to me.
BAH!
That's what those NRA Nazis try and say to reduce gun crime and accidents. That's not the we cause we all know education about something dangerous doesnt actually work. The only way to keep people from accidently shooting themselves is to leave people completly in the dark about fire arms and just ban them all. Yup that's it....the NRA Is evil with all their safety education.
[Sarcasm off]
1. Treat every weapon as if it were loaded.
2. Never point your weapon at anything you do not intend to shoot.
3. Keep your finger straight and off the trigger until you are ready to fire.
4. Keep your weapon on safe until you intend to fire
Yup the 4 USMC basic rifle safety rules. They do you well.
Thanks for the post Dago. I allways enjoy reading them.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
And not just from its two senators either it seems!
Im sure the Governor has some bearing on it.
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Originally posted by Hawklore
Curval, only idiots keep there weapon loaded...
And only dumb****s clean several weapons at once...
That kid getting shot was obviously a case of having too many weapons out at once..
And of course keeping a weapon loaded...
I'm done ranting and what not, have fun....
listen up you pathetic little know-it-all prettythanghole
The child who died was the son of friends of my parents. It was a tragic accident caused by a combination of errors, mostly contributed by the youngest son (trying to help his older brother) mistakenly putting a live shell instead of a grease shell. He dropped the gun by mistake and was fatally wounded.
It had nothing to do with numbers or anything other than the lack of some supervision. If you grew up in the "Northeast Kingdom" as Orleans County and Essex County are known as, you might just understand a bit more why the supervision was not there. If you had lived in Lowell, and seen the lifestyle, you'd keep your friggin mouth shut.
So, seeming that this death is so *****g funny and here for your amusement, hows a bout you write the family and express how you find it hillarious... I can provide the address, and you can be sure of a visit after it's received.
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Urm.....
Is this the Aces High BBs or the NRA?
Just wondering:confused: :lol
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Both and then some
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Its .....
(http://www.filmsite.org/posters/gunc.jpg)
In here.....
:lol ;)
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Originally posted by Bodhi
listen up you pathetic little know-it-all prettythanghole
The child who died was the son of friends of my parents. It was a tragic accident caused by a combination of errors, mostly contributed by the youngest son (trying to help his older brother) mistakenly putting a live shell instead of a grease shell. He dropped the gun by mistake and was fatally wounded.
It had nothing to do with numbers or anything other than the lack of some supervision. If you grew up in the "Northeast Kingdom" as Orleans County and Essex County are known as, you might just understand a bit more why the supervision was not there. If you had lived in Lowell, and seen the lifestyle, you'd keep your friggin mouth shut.
So, seeming that this death is so *****g funny and here for your amusement, hows a bout you write the family and express how you find it hillarious... I can provide the address, and you can be sure of a visit after it's received.
Never said it was funny..
I'm shakin in my pants Bodhi, don't say anything else, boohoo!!
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Originally posted by Hawklore
Never said it was funny..
I'm shakin in my pants Bodhi, don't say anything else, boohoo!!
As always you remain a salamander of epic proportions.
Hope you trip on your shoelace on the way to the short bus.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
As always you remain a salamander of epic proportions.
Hope you trip on your shoelace on the way to the short bus.
Gufffaaww!!
Shur thing Mista Haud Ass...
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Dago, was there some kind of Ripsnortian point behind the cut and paste or should we all just enjoy the stories?
Surely you wanted to advocate for something..... did you expect no dissent?
Quite honestly, I just always enjoyed reading the articles in "The Armed Citizen" and I think many others do, so I post them as a favor to those who enjoy them. As to why I enjoy them, I suppose someone who studies human behavior could give all kinds of explanations, but I think some of us just like to hear about criminals getting theirs.
I don't post them to start gun control arguements, that is pretty much a useless arguement, so whats the point. Its been done to death already.
dago
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Originally posted by Martlet
Ban alcohol. That causes more deaths a year than firearms.
I wonder how many deaths involved guns and alcohol?
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I've decided to become a cereal killer, but I haven't yet built up the prerequisite psychotic hatred.
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Some people get uncomfortable and fidgety when they read about lawful citizens defending themselves. I guess it goes against their socialist beliefs. On that basis alone, Dago, I enjoy your posts.
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Originally posted by Elfie
Add in all the deaths from alcohol related vehicle accidents and alcohol comes up the winner.
The 26,000 does not include all the gun related suicides. It's an even contest again.
The only way to keep people from accidently shooting themselves is to leave people completly in the dark about fire arms and just ban them all. Yup that's it...
Yup - works for Bermuda, works for us. Some people get uncomfortable and fidgety when they read about lawful citizens defending themselves. I guess it goes against their socialist beliefs.
It's got fork all to do with "socialism" - outside the US at least.
Yes Dago, keep posting these articles. It's always nice to see that there are some benefits to firearms ownership, and that the 26,000 people killed by guns each year in the US did not die in vain.
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(http://originaldo.com/Charlton-Heston-NRA.jpg)
:lol :lol :lol Bo**ox!
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Originally posted by Raider179
I wonder how many deaths involved guns and alcohol?
Prohibition!
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My guns are allmost allways loaded.. I assume everyones are.
I often clean 3 or 4 guns at a time.. Often have 3 or more apart at once.
The number of people who have accidents climbing rocks or handling guns or hiking is not of much concern to me except that it is a waste and I think that if people engage in those activities they should avail themselves of some safe training.
I have no urge to ban anyones hobbies or human rights because stupid or criminal people may abuse them. If stupid people cause the deaths then making training available or just letting em die is the right solution. If it is a criminal activity then the criminals need to be agressively sought and punished.
none of this should have anything to do with my owning guns or climbing rocks or boating or whatever... It is no ones bussiness if I own the eqauipment for my protection or hobbies.
my (and 80 million other gunowners in the U.S.) being able to own a firearm is good enough justification for for the 16k accidents or even the 9,000 homicides that would have happened by some other means. None of these things is good enough reason for anyone to take away my right to defend myself.
The people most upset in this thread with our firearms are all UK citizens. Fortunately... they have no say. And... they shouldn't... they don't know anything about us or guns.
lazs
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I never keep any of my firearms loaded at home.
When I have multiple firearms needing cleaning, (as I do now, a .45 and a .22), I clean each one individually, put it together and case it before I start the next one. Just my practice to do it that way.
I always, and I mean always, verify the weapon is unloaded before I start cleaning it. This is slightly redundant, as I always verify it is unloaded before casing it to bring home after shooting, but I do it anyway as part of my practice.
My firearms were always put away so my children wouldnt be able to access them, and now that they are grown up, I dont have to worry about that.
dago
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Dago... so far as I am concerned your guns are loaded. I allways check my guns before handing them to someone and allways insist that they do the same even tho they watched me check... I unload my guns before cleaning them because it is impossible to clean a loaded gun and foolish besides.
I often have three guns apart for cleaning at the same time.
My guns are loaded in the home. Most are in a gun safe but at least one is not. My children or childrens children are either too small to reach em (and the butcher block with all the knives in it), too weak or small handed to work the action and fire em or... they are taught safe gun handling or to not touch. I can put my hands on and fire a loaded .45 right now but my three year old grand daughter can't. When she get's older she will have the same options as me.
lazs
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So Zulu is back as Skydancer? Same charming approach to the BBS though..........
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Originally posted by lazs2
Dago... so far as I am concerned your guns are loaded. I allways check my guns before handing them to someone and allways insist that they do the same even tho they watched me check... I unload my guns before cleaning them because it is impossible to clean a loaded gun and foolish besides.
I often have three guns apart for cleaning at the same time.
My guns are loaded in the home. Most are in a gun safe but at least one is not. My children or childrens children are either too small to reach em (and the butcher block with all the knives in it), too weak or small handed to work the action and fire em or... they are taught safe gun handling or to not touch. I can put my hands on and fire a loaded .45 right now but my three year old grand daughter can't. When she get's older she will have the same options as me.
lazs
I hope you mean when she gets old enough to know how to choose between the same options as you and not just when she is old enough to handle one.
That seems to be a pretty big risk laz. I've come to learn that accidents also happen to people that believe they know what they are doing. Might want to think about how you would feel if an accident did happen.... would you REALLY still be so sure about keeping loaded guns around children?
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Lazs2, what you do with your guns is of course your decision to make. For me personally, I just dont feel the need to keep a loaded weapon in my house. My neighborhood is very safe, and violent crime, home invasion, etc is almost non-existant. Things have not always been that way in my life, and there were years when I slept with my .45 loaded and in reach. I do not need to do that now so I don't.
As far as my guns always "loaded" I practice safe gun handling of course, and always assume loaded until I check them. I never point a gun, loaded or not at anyone, nor do I hand someone a firearm until after I verify unloaded.
As far as cleaning multiple weapons, I have no problem with that, it is just my personal habit to finish one before moving on to the next one.
dago
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Toad????
I'm back as me mate. Check the boards from a while back. I am charming in a humorous fashion.
This example is not quite so charming, I quote
"As always you remain a salamander of epic proportions.
Just an example of a charming approach from this thread posted by Bodhi I think? (though in fairness he does seem to have been baited)
I try not to use such charming terminology.
Who is Zulu?
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Originally posted by mosgood
I hope you mean when she gets old enough to know how to choose between the same options as you and not just when she is old enough to handle one.
That seems to be a pretty big risk laz. I've come to learn that accidents also happen to people that believe they know what they are doing. Might want to think about how you would feel if an accident did happen.... would you REALLY still be so sure about keeping loaded guns around children?
My parents did. I was educated on gun handling. They were an everyday part of our lives.
Guns become dangerous when parents keep them from their children and don't instruct them. They become a novelty. I was firing guns since I was 5, and was given my own gun on my 10th birthday, when you can legally hunt in Maine. By then I'd taken several courses and probably knew more about guns than most adults.
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Yup - works for Bermuda, works for us.
So there's no gun crimes in the UK now? bull****:rolleyes:
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There are indeed gun crimes. We have too many in this city. Mind you one is too many but we do seem to have far fewer than the USA. Then we have fewer guns and to be honest our society is very different. We just don't have a gun culture.
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Originally posted by Martlet
Prohibition!
No I meant more of someone gets drunk and goes and shoots someone or themselves. Or someone drunk playing with their gun and accidently shoots someone. I would guess its a fairly high number.
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Originally posted by Raider179
I would guess
Prohibition!
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Originally posted by Martlet
Prohibition!
:lol
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Originally posted by Martlet
Prohibition!
Man get out of the 20's and early 30's. I am talking current.
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Originally posted by Raider179
Man get out of the 20's and early 30's. I am talking current.
You really aren't talking about anything.
What was your point? Don't clean your guns when you are drunk?
Ok, I'll agree.
Next?
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Surely you wanted to advocate for something..... did you expect no dissent?
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=142854&referrerid=11174
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Originally posted by OneWordAnswer
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=142854&referrerid=11174
:eek:
How Ripsnortian of you.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
How Ripsnortian of you.
no.
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mossgood... I would feel bad if my children or grandchildren had any kind of an accident.. I tell them not to get into the knives or touch the hot stove or play with matches or jump in large bodies of water before they can swim or stay out of the street...
I also teach them safe gun handling or... if they are too young.. they simply will not have the gun available any more than anything else dangerous... it will be up out of their reach because they may club themselves with it.. they will not be able to get it down and not strong enough to work the action... as they get older and curious I will show them the gun and allow them to handle it under my supervision and tell them not to touch without supervision.. Latter, I will take them out shooting and teach them safe gun handling if they are interested.
None of these precautions will guarentee that they wonm't burn the house down or drownm or get run over or shoot themselves and I will feel equally bad if any of those things happen.
it's not really that complex.
lazs