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Title: Deaf Police Story
Post by: EN4CER on March 07, 2005, 12:37:06 PM
Here is an incident that happened to an officer on my job this past Saturday. Ever Police Department has their version of Officer Tackleberry from Police Academy and the one on my job has a special nickname but for the BBS I’ll refer to him as JD. JD is almost a 20 year veteran and still a buff, he’s got more items on his gun belt than Batman has on his utility belt and he lives, eats, breathes police work. JD however is not as ambitious as Tackleberry. Anyways he was patrolling a shopping mall in his sector (Probably looking to see the sights) and noticed a car in a handicap zone with no sticker. He signs himself out on a traffic stop on the MDC (Mobile Data, Computer), gets out, inspects the vehicle, runs data (Registration check, etc.) on it, and decides to write the summonses (Probably the first one in over a year). Well he starts to write the summons and the owner now approaches him. The owner of the vehicle is trying to talk to him and in a rather load tone of voice and JD is telling him to calm down. The subject continues to talk in a loud tone and JD calls for backup stating “The subject appears agitated and may possibly be on intoxicated – his speech is totally incoherent.” A couple of seconds go by and there is a second radio transmission “He’s making furtive hand gestures now – he’s becoming belligerent!” Next thing you know we hear “Subject 10-32” over the radio which means the subject has been arrested. The individual is transported to Police Headquarters where JD embarrassingly learns the subject is not intoxicated, he was not trying to fight the officer, and he is handicapped because he is DEAF!
Title: Deaf Police Story
Post by: Goth on March 07, 2005, 12:46:25 PM
I respect you guys..I really do. There's no way I could be a beat cop.

I was raised, unlike todays youth, to always respect the police. I have received tickets in my time, but I have always been respectful even the time I was pulled over for a suspected DUI. Being nice I believe is what got me out of trouble.
Title: Deaf Police Story
Post by: Kegger26 on March 07, 2005, 01:01:33 PM
Well, I dont think I was Tackleberry in fact I was about as laid back as a hooker at a frat party. However one night about six/seven years back, while pulling duty at the airport all that changed. At around 11PM I notice a shabby looking woman enter the airport. Since it is Jan in Baltimore and it is snowing more than likely it is a transient trying to get warm (homeless).
  Now while most of the time I toss these types out when I pull this duty, since it was snowing out I was going to let it be. Thats when I noticed she was talking to herself. Infact becuase I heard the word mom I figured she was in fact crazy. "well this dog just wont hunt" I remember saying to myself as I made my way to her. I had already raidoed for back up, three of us approched her from diffrent directions. Before she knew what was happening she had three MTA cops around her. The confused look on her face matched the fact I thought she was crazy.
 Taking the lead I made a bad call. I asked her if she had a ticket, she said "hold on mom" then said said "no" I am picking up my husband. I looked down at her left finger..no ring. I said well ma'am do you have a flight number? She said "no but I know where to go" I said well do you have ID? She showed her ID to me, and I ran it. While I was giving dispatch her info she started telling her mom about us cops...I gave a look at the other two officers who both gave me the look back....like what the hell is wrong with this chick.... She came back clear I gave her back her ID. I then told her she needed to leave the airport. She started telling her mom how she was being told to leave. I being an bellybutton said tell your mom I said hi, now you need to go.
 Well she put up a fuss about it...as well she should have...see she wasnt crazy....she wasnt talking to her self. This was back when the ear bud mics were just out for cell phones. She had the cell phone in her pocket and I never did even look at her ear. I had already grabed her arm and was walking her out the door when it all started to come together. She was really picking someone up, she was really talking to her mother, I was really being a *******.....
 However still to this day when I see someone walk by me talking on the hands free phone I think about that whole thing. We got a laugh out of it for weeks.

-Keg.
Title: Deaf Police Story
Post by: Curval on March 07, 2005, 01:17:03 PM
I called a broker the other day to get some information.  This guy comes on the phone and man he sounds bad...rasping, snorting, gurgling etc.  He asked me how I was (I think) and I said "Well, one heck of alot better than you man.  You sound awful.  Have you got a cold or the flu or something?"

He then rasps out that he had an operation and won't ever sound any better.  Apparently he had throat cancer, I came to find out.

I felt bad about that.
Title: Deaf Police Story
Post by: Shane on March 07, 2005, 01:22:39 PM
Deafness alone doesn't qualify one for a handicapped parking space. It has to be some medical condition that relates with ones mobility, be it a temporary permit from a Dr. because you just had knee surgery or perhaps difficulty in getting around due to a heart problem and the like. Not all handicapped permiters are using wheelchairs/crutches.

So unless he had a handicapped parking permit, he's SOL in avoiding the ticket.

Nor did he do a sufficent job in communicating to JD his deafness. I mean how hard is it to make eye contact and point to one's ears and gesture some form of  "can't hear"?

Now if JD was busy writing the ticket and was talking while not making direct eye contact, using his peripheral vision to take in the scene... then that's just carelessness on JD's part.
Title: Deaf Police Story
Post by: bigsky on March 07, 2005, 01:39:29 PM
at least they were not wrestled to the ground and subdued like the 2 deaf people the cops did here. that cost the city @40-50k each.
Title: Deaf Police Story
Post by: EN4CER on March 07, 2005, 01:49:48 PM
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Originally posted by Shane
Now if JD was busy writing the ticket and was talking while not making direct eye contact, using his peripheral vision to take in the scene... then that's just carelessness on JD's part.


Its probably more of what happened Shane - JD has a quick temper and does not pay attention to details too much. He also tends to escalate situations. I'm sure the kid was trying to sign to JD that he is deaf or making some type of gesture. All JD sees is someone who wants to fight - period. I feel bad for the poor kid. Every year there is a JD story going around town and looks like this one is going to be the one for 2005. Last year he backed a police car through a fence (1/2 way through) at a gas station and tried to blame it on faulty transmission. A few years ago some HS kids stole the license plate off of his police car for a scavenger hunt. Funny thing is they did it while he was taking a nap in the police car. He's got 17 months left and it will be a good thing when he goes.
Title: Deaf Police Story
Post by: Shane on March 07, 2005, 02:04:05 PM
now it'll be interesting to follow the followup.. think the kid is saavy enough to get a lawyer and sue for wrongful/false arrest?
Title: Deaf Police Story
Post by: EN4CER on March 07, 2005, 02:33:52 PM
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Originally posted by Shane
now it'll be interesting to follow the followup.. think the kid is saavy enough to get a lawyer and sue for wrongful/false arrest?


JD should be able to articulate he acted in good faith but here in good old New York you never know. My friend does defense work for the town so when I get the inside scoop I'll post it for ya. Unfortunately JD doesn't have a great track record lately and is quite the regular at my friends firm.
Title: Deaf Police Story
Post by: OneWordAnswer on March 07, 2005, 02:55:31 PM
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Originally posted by Curval
I called a broker the other day to get some information.  This guy comes on the phone and man he sounds bad...rasping, snorting, gurgling etc.  He asked me how I was (I think) and I said "Well, one heck of alot better than you man.  You sound awful.  Have you got a cold or the flu or something?"

He then rasps out that he had an operation and won't ever sound any better.  Apparently he had throat cancer, I came to find out.

I felt bad about that.

Smoker?
Title: Deaf Police Story
Post by: majic on March 07, 2005, 06:04:09 PM
I hate those people with the hands free mics for their phones.  They will look at you when they talk and the body language is like they are talking to you.  Annoying as hell.
Title: Deaf Police Story
Post by: john9001 on March 07, 2005, 06:11:13 PM
saw a comedy bit like that, 1st guy is in public restroom at the urinal, 2nd guy walks in talking on cell phone,1st guy thinks 2nd guy is talking to him and starts answering him.
Title: Deaf Police Story
Post by: LePaul on March 07, 2005, 07:21:36 PM
I remember years ago, back when I worked a summer at the local Texaco station pumping gas.  I heard all kinds of loud banter coming from inside the service area and a woman flailing her arms around.  The service man was gently nodding and pointing to the invoice while the woman wrote a check.

What I thought was a lady ape over her service bill was a deaf woman trying to communicate that she thanked him for also updating her inspection sticker.

Naturally she cant hear herself speak, I recall a few times shed drive in for gas and yell REGULAR! and jump the bejeezus out of the poor guy approaching her window.
Title: Deaf Police Story
Post by: Hawklore on March 07, 2005, 08:25:17 PM
Mistakes happen...

It helps to be educated....

Not that the guy is stupid..

My moms friend has two deaf kids and she is an interpretur for the deaf....
Title: Deaf Police Story
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on March 07, 2005, 10:30:20 PM
Similar to a situation here not too long ago.

http://starbulletin.com/2004/10/21/news/story2.html
Title: Deaf Police Story
Post by: Rafe35 on March 07, 2005, 11:02:34 PM
Ah, well.  

I had few troubles in the past that when I found out I was deaf when I was 2-3 years old and making my parents freak out that they didn't know what to do until they call for help.  When I got help from Arkansas Children Hospital, one the speech therapy told my parents that I should do Oral or Sign Languages and my parents choose Oral because they felt that I derserve to talk instead learning Sign Language which making people hard to understand (Many people really don't know Sign Language).

I really hardly don't wear hearing aid anymore because I had sugery from last year which I getting Cochlear Implants on my right ear and it's pretty much louder than hearing aid/digital hearing aid.
Title: Deaf Police Story
Post by: Hawklore on March 07, 2005, 11:05:45 PM
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Originally posted by Rafe35
Ah, well.  

I had few troubles in the past that when I found out I was deaf when I was 2-3 years old and making my parents freak out that they didn't know what to do until they call for help.  When I got help from Arkansas Children Hospital, one the speech therapy told my parents that I should do Oral or Sign Languages and my parents choose Oral because they felt that I derserve to talk instead learning Sign Language which making people hard to understand (Many people really don't know Sign Language).

I really hardly don't wear hearing aid anymore because I had sugery from last year which I getting Cochlear Implants on my right ear and it's pretty much louder than hearing aid/digital hearing aid.


Hows the Cochlear Implant working for you?

It's said (sad is what I meant but works out either way) though, works for some, and not others...
Title: Deaf Police Story
Post by: Rafe35 on March 07, 2005, 11:24:09 PM
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Originally posted by Hawklore
Hows the Cochlear Implant working for you?

It's said (sad is what I meant but works out either way) though, works for some, and not others...

Well, Glad you ask me on that question.

I gotta say that Cochlear Implants is the best "Hearing Aid" that I have been actually hearing alot new things that I have not heard before and I am really thinking about get another one for my left ear in next year because I have been complaining to my audiologist that I cannot hear my left ear anymore.  So on, I'm still making plans for upcoming next for Cochlear Implants on my left ear in next year.

Many people really like Cochlear Implants after they got turn on, but some people hate the Cochlear Implants that they thought it was useless and the reason why they hate because they didn't give Cochlear Implants a chance (Take a long time to get used it).
Title: Deaf Police Story
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on March 07, 2005, 11:56:44 PM
Just curious Rafe, the people that dont like them.....are they usually people who had their hearing for a good while and lost it or are they representative of a fairly broad spectrum?  I'm glad to hear (pardon the pun) that yours is working well for you.  I hope the other one is even more successful.
Title: Deaf Police Story
Post by: GrimCO on March 08, 2005, 12:39:03 AM
Here's one I pulled as a cop trying to be "Officer Friendly".

I had worked the midnight shift for three years in a row, and decided to go to the day shift. Having dealt with pretty much nothing but scumbags while working midnights, I was relieved to be able to see some normal people. I decided that I would drop in on some of the businesses in my zone, and do a little "PR" by introducing myself, etc...

I walked into a body shop and saw a nice looking woman behind the desk, and introduced myself as the officer that would be working this area. During the conversation I noticed one of those swimsuit calendars hanging on the wall, typical in a mechanic's shop. She told me to take a look at the picture for the month of July, and I discovered that she was the model for that month. As I continued to thumb through the calendar, I came across one of the models who was quite homely. I made it a point to show her the picture, and said "God, that woman has no business wearing a bikini". She then informed me in a very disgusted tone that this woman was her sister.

I soon figured out that whoever owned this shop had some of his aquaintances model for the calendar. Needless to say, I was quite embarrassed and left.