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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SCDR on March 08, 2005, 03:44:37 PM
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Aces High takes the art and science of vintage WWII air
combat and sets it in an online high intensity environment where
hundreds of players can battle it out with and against each
other. High fidelity air combat is the heart of Aces High , but it
doesn't end there. In addition to flying a multitude of aircraft
types, players can also man vehicles, boats, amphibs, gun
batteries, and ships.
Guess the gvs are staying on the back burner. Have to live with
ostis/tanks loosing turrets to 1 pass from all planes.
That really is a shame.:(
SCDR
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High fidelity air combat is the heart of Aces High
[/B] :aok
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:rofl The fly boys win one. Doesn't make it right, but they won.
SCDR
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No one really "won" anything.
Its Aces High
(only nowadays they're "higher" than ever before.)
IMHO 99% of the player base here came to fly. I could be wrong though.
I might add that HTC has improved GV's. There are always going to be anomalies such as 1 ping and your turret is out... Or A single pass from a 51 straffing...
On the same token, you have many strange anomolies while in the air fighting...
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That's not new is it?
-Sik
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Please don't exagerate when criticizing AH.
and an osti should lose its turret in 1 pass it has a big hole in the top.
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Originally posted by Morpheus
No one really "won" anything.
Its Aces High
(only nowadays they're "higher" than ever before.)
IMHO 99% of the player base here came to fly. I could be wrong though.
I might add that HTC has improved GV's. There are always going to be anomalies such as 1 ping and your turret is out... Or A single pass from a 51 straffing...
On the same token, you have many strange anomolies while in the air fighting...
Yep no more "bouncing tiger", but we have trees that'll filp ya over. Same with buildings. It is pretty cool how, IF someone brings you vech sups your tank will right itself and you can keep going.:rofl I'ld trade bouncing tiger for trees & bldgs flipping tanks anyday. It also seems that with each new version more and more planes can take out turrets. ie A6Ms, 202s, and 205s now have greater chance of taking out the turret of the gv I'm driving. Yes I am not "rubber necking" while i drive.
Oh well, life goes on.
SCDR
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Originally posted by SCDR
Yep no more "bouncing tiger", but we have trees that'll filp ya over. Same with buildings. It is pretty cool how, IF someone brings you vech sups your tank will right itself and you can keep going.:rofl I'ld trade bouncing tiger for trees & bldgs flipping tanks anyday. It also seems that with each new version more and more planes can take out turrets. ie A6Ms, 202s, and 205s now have greater chance of taking out the turret of the gv I'm driving. Yes I am not "rubber necking" while i drive.
Oh well, life goes on.
SCDR
Well, it seems the simple solution would be not to run into trees or buildings if you know there is an issue.:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Mitchell
Please don't exagerate when criticizing AH.
and an osti should lose its turret in 1 pass it has a big hole in the top.
Who's exagerating or criticizing? Nevermind, not worth it.
SCDR
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You mean there are tanks in this flight sim?
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I came to actualty bomb and then fly the fighters.
What can I say I like raining death from above but its cool that we do have an option to have ground warfare as well as aerial combat.
I like to be well rounded so for me it presents itself as a game that when I get tired of one aspect there are other avenues I can go with and still enjoy myself.
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you lose turret to straffin 202s and zekes??
man no one else does.
sure you aint in an M3 by mistake?
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I suppose when they start calling it Aces Low I'll start worrying. Until then if yer having fun what difference does it make whether its in the air or ground?
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What was the question?
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Originally posted by Sikboy
That's not new is it?
-Sik
I dont think so. I dont remember it ever being anything different in the few years Ive been here
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Originally posted by Wolf14
I came to actualty bomb and then fly the fighters.
I like to be well rounded so for me it presents itself as a game that when I get tired of one aspect there are other avenues I can go with and still enjoy myself.
I feel exactly the same way.
Added bonus is I dont have to switch to another game just to do something different.
As long as IM having fun doing whatever I may feel like doing at any particular moment, it doesnt matter to me what other people think is fun or not.
IMO nor should it to anyone else
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I remember HT commenting an a simular issue, some time ago.
He said that the more realistically one models stuff in, it means more variety in the outcome, since many different factors are in work with all kinds of different situations. Then he said what really sucks is that people actually hate variety and like consistency, except a certain level of consistency can only be achieved when the modelling is actually done unrealistically. So, people say that they want more realism, but they complain about realism if one actually models it that way.
At least, it was something like that IIRC.
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my brain hurts
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Originally posted by Morpheus
:aok
It's supposed to be anyway.
Fighter Hangar
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People, the point is that HTC web site used to say AH was a WWII combat simulation . Guess I need to look at web site more often to see any changes.
Guess I haven't paid my fair share of Bish taxes, yes I've had a 202 & a zeke take my panzer turret out. My family had to come see why I was yelling so loud for.
SCDR
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wtf did you expect? The game is called ACES HIGH. Both aces and high imply planes. What you want is Lemmings Low.
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Originally posted by wetrat
wtf did you expect? The game is called ACES HIGH. Both aces and high imply planes. What you want is Lemmings Low.
An intelligent answer, or is that asking for too much?:D
Some of the replies are intelligent, the others .... you figure it out.
Skuzzy you can delete this thread or lock it out. I no longer care.
SCDR
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I want to fly aircrafts.
Apart from that, damage on panzers from straffing mgs seem to be a bit high, but the damage lvts, osties, M3 and m16 take is pretty low.
However, when you drop a 500lb bomb close to a gv it would usually just tip over and be lost.. in aces high bomb damage to gvs seems verry low to me. A panzer sitting in a bomb crater would not make it out... still in ah you can drive right through it.
Still i want to see a film of 202 killing panzer turrent.... i never managed to disable or damage a panzer with mg or canon smaller than 23mm.
ciao schutt
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Originally posted by Schutt
I want to fly aircrafts.
Apart from that, damage on panzers from straffing mgs seem to be a bit high, but the damage lvts, osties, M3 and m16 take is pretty low.
However, when you drop a 500lb bomb close to a gv it would usually just tip over and be lost.. in aces high bomb damage to gvs seems verry low to me. A panzer sitting in a bomb crater would not make it out... still in ah you can drive right through it.
Still i want to see a film of 202 killing panzer turrent.... i never managed to disable or damage a panzer with mg or canon smaller than 23mm.
ciao schutt
You must not be bombing my panzer
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The GV issue is really pretty simple. Until desert boots and shorts are modeled the GV end of the game will suffer. The LW spiked heels and matching leather G-strings are just too dang hot for tank use. Then you have the sheep issue to deal with. Sheep get pretty jumpy inside them noisy, closed inned tanks and stuff. They much prefer the open canopy with the wind in their wool.
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Rumor has it that HT (Dale) is working on SUBMARINES for those that want ACES UNDER;)
Oh well, Aces Hight/Aces Low/Aces Under, now we've cover everything:confused:
Maybe Aces Sideways:rofl
It's still the best GAME around:aok
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Its not a sub... Its Aubreys "Sporty FM2" trying to out climb a G10.... ;)
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I when high percentage of contest versus straffing palnes in Osti.
IronDog
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That is not a change.
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Bring the Pershing to Aces High 2!
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ostis/tanks loosing turrets to 1 pass from all planes
I call BS.
HiTech
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I wish I could find one of these magical mystical ostis turret killin 1 shot wonder planes. I'm lucky if I unload the whole clip and get away with an oil leak while the ostis drives away...:)
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Originally posted by SCDR
An intelligent answer, or is that asking for too much?:D
Some of the replies are intelligent, the others .... you figure it out.
Skuzzy you can delete this thread or lock it out. I no longer care.
SCDR
Not allowed. You stuck your neck out, now we get to make fun of you endlessly. Your statement, "Some of the replies are intelligent, the others .... you figure it out.", is true of every thread on this BBS.
Enjoy! :p
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Originally posted by Morpheus
IMHO 99% of the player base here came to fly. I could be wrong though.
Looks like I'm a 1%er.
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I feel your pain SCDR
Bro
:p
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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Not allowed. You stuck your neck out, now we get to make fun of you endlessly. Your statement, "Some of the replies are intelligent, the others .... you figure it out.", is true of every thread on this BBS.
Enjoy! :p
:rofl Thanks for making me laugh. I needed that.
HT you have a problem of calling BS whenever anyone makes a broad statement like I did. Ok so it seems to happen to me alot.
Does that make it BS? I guess in your mind it does. Your sim.
:rofl I got better replies from the players.:aok
SCDR
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Originally posted by SCDR
HT you have a problem of calling BS whenever anyone makes a broad statement like I did.
You forgot a word: Unsubstantiated
I don't know if it's true or not, but didn't see anything to indicate that it was.
-Sik
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GV seem much more resistant to gunfire since patch, And I can't remember the last time i killed a tank or osti turret with a rocket come to think of it......they just bounce off. :(
I love havin the GV battle to turn to when the terrain supports it.
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Originally posted by GooseAW
And I can't remember the last time i killed a tank or osti turret with a rocket come to think of it......they just bounce off. :(
It's funny, I stopped taking rockets and bombs up in the Il-2, since I wasn't nearly as effective with them as I was the VYa-23s :)
-Sik
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Originally posted by TexMurphy
Its not a sub... Its Aubreys "Sporty FM2" trying to out climb a G10.... ;)
The FM2 is sporty you have to admit that. :D
It was a 202 0r 205 I was trying to outclimb. after I landed errrr smashed into the ground I read about them. No more of trying to out climb them for me anymore.
As to the subject
I like everything you can do in this game. If it is a furball I furball, If Wonder and the boys need help on the ground I help, If running supplies is needed I do that. It is quite exciting to fly a goon into a field that is being vulched and drop supplies. Bombing runs are exciting esp on long runs with planes whipping around you. It is all good I enjoy it all. Where else can you do this all in a game and know it is a close representation to what the actual equipment did?
I guess If a plane takes out the turret of a tiger in one pass well then it does. Nothing is perfect and if you expect this game to be you are sure to be disapointed.
I will say I think they have modeled ballistics very very well in this game. I agree people think they know what reality is but I am of the opinion that reality is what they want it to be not what it is. If something is 'not right" to you. adapt and overcome.
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Originally posted by Sikboy
It's funny, I stopped taking rockets and bombs up in the Il-2, since I wasn't nearly as effective with them as I was the VYa-23s :)
-Sik
This is a fact that happens all the time. I should know, getting your turret knocked out is a bit frustrating but the Ostwind doesn't have a canopy/hatch. It's an open top design and the gun crew is very vunerable to all calibur of weapons. Not complaining, it comes with the territory.
I realize that HTC wants this to be a WWII based flight/combat sim, and that is fine by me. If they want to add every aircraft ever to see the light of day, be my guest. I don't fly but rarely, so it doesn't make any difference at my end.
I guess the only small complaint I have is, why do so many get all up in arms about a GV that I would like to see added to the game when that's what some of us enjoy? As if it takes away from the 50 plus plane choices you already have?
There has been lists a mile long in these forums for "planes that need to be added"
Seems no matter what planes are considered or not, the community still whines and moans about "perk" this and "perk" that and thats a "dweeb" plane and on & on, It's like a no-win.
The amount of planes and choices compared to GV's is stagering. There is really only a small number of actually useful GV's in AH anyways. When is the last time you saw a 5 LVT's, 2 M16's and an M8 attack or defend a base?
Seems the community and HTC needs to deceide what type of game/sim they would like to have. If it is going to be a WWII based flight sim, then it should be just that. You would of course have to take away all the puffy ack, SB's, field guns, GV's and the like. Then everyone could just fly A/C and dogfight 24/7
On the other hand, if it is to be a WWII combat sim, then by all means have tons of planes, GV's, gun platforms, artillery, cities/villages and towns. Roadways and railroads, supply ships and command centers. Something for everyone!
Just a thought
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Originally posted by MOIL
Seems the community and HTC needs to deceide what type of game/sim they would like to have. If it is going to be a WWII based flight sim, then it should be just that. You would of course have to take away all the puffy ack, SB's, field guns, GV's and the like. Then everyone could just fly A/C and dogfight 24/7
On the other hand, if it is to be a WWII combat sim, then by all means have tons of planes, GV's, gun platforms, artillery, cities/villages and towns. Roadways and railroads, supply ships and command centers. Something for everyone!
Just a thought
Honestly, I really don't see it as being Either-or.
But don't get me wrong. I'm a Navy guy. I'd love to see that aspect expanded. I post now and again. On occassion I've started to draft a detailed concept to send to HTC. But in the end, I usually let it go. I know that I don't have the time and energy to put into making my request in a well thought out manner.
I suppose I could post on the BBS: "It's totally lame that HE bombs keep sinking the CA when in reality they would just bounce off!" or "Why don't we have the Yamato!! WE NEED IT!!!" or even "you call that a damage model?" But I don't.
Instead I volunteered to become a events Campaing Manager, and worked on incorporating Naval Aspects into our Sepcial Events. Sure, I still want a hi-fidelity damage model for ships. Sure I still want more ships added. But I still recognise that this is primarily a flight sim.
-Sik
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I got one question.. where is the nudie bar they advertize in the commercial?.... plane bombers tanks ships guns. bah!! who cares?... I want the nudie bar!!
I log on and hear all about these, so called "HO'ers" I never see theses women they call "HO's" Then! on top of that! I get shot down by these plane flying people when im crusing the area looking for the nudie bar!!! stop it!! I needz to find it!!
thank you for your time! :P
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Originally posted by Grits
You mean there are tanks in this flight sim?
Yeah and they make fun targets! :)
culero
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Originally posted by Sikboy
Honestly, I really don't see it as being Either-or.
But don't get me wrong. I'm a Navy guy. I'd love to see that aspect expanded. I post now and again. On occassion I've started to draft a detailed concept to send to HTC. But in the end, I usually let it go. I know that I don't have the time and energy to put into making my request in a well thought out manner.
I suppose I could post on the BBS: "It's totally lame that HE bombs keep sinking the CA when in reality they would just bounce off!" or "Why don't we have the Yamato!! WE NEED IT!!!" or even "you call that a damage model?" But I don't.
Instead I volunteered to become a events Campaing Manager, and worked on incorporating Naval Aspects into our Sepcial Events. Sure, I still want a hi-fidelity damage model for ships. Sure I still want more ships added. But I still recognise that this is primarily a flight sim.
-Sik
Those are all great ideas, wouldn't mind seeing a few of those ships make it to the seas.
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Originally posted by hitech
I call BS.
HiTech
LMFAO! :)
Oh, man, do you know the special history of that phrase? (As it relates to a Ploesti scenario at AW)
If not, and ya want some laffs, say so and I'll point ya in the right direction (imagine Heated Flame War Between Friends Who Temporarily Wanted To Gut Each Other With Dull Knives ;))
culero
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Originally posted by culero
LMFAO! :)
Oh, man, do you know the special history of that phrase? (As it relates to a Ploesti scenario at AW)
LOL yeah, that was the first thing that came to my mind too when I read it. Ah, memories........ :)