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Title: Your computer is not a typewriter...
Post by: Sandman on March 08, 2005, 06:00:09 PM
...so stop putting two spaces after the period at the end of a sentence.


There... I said it.
Title: Your computer is not a typewriter...
Post by: JB88 on March 08, 2005, 06:09:48 PM
this is a test to see if i naturally add two spaces after a period at the end of a sentence.  yep.  i do. did'nt know that this was was acceptable. feels wierd.
Title: Your computer is not a typewriter...
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 08, 2005, 06:21:08 PM
No.  Just because.  :)
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Post by: Thorns on March 08, 2005, 06:30:01 PM
Twospacesafteraperiod(hopeit'snotyours);and one spaceafter a comma(ifyouevercomeoutofit), and aCaptial letter at the beginning ofanew sentence?Nothing, worse than trying.to read whatsome,onehas.writtenandthey:don'tuse!correctpuctuation?." huh?

Thorns
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Post by: john9001 on March 08, 2005, 07:04:18 PM
i have a bad habit of hitting the space bar after every word . so i end up with (space)(period)(space) . then i have to go back and edit .
Title: Your computer is not a typewriter...
Post by: Sandman on March 08, 2005, 07:19:08 PM
What the typographers and typesetters say:

http://www.webword.com/reports/period.html
http://www.getitwriteonline.com/archive/011803.htm
http://www.adobe.com/print/tips/felici20001030/main.html

So... stop. ;)
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Post by: Hawklore on March 08, 2005, 07:21:11 PM
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Originally posted by Thorns
Twospacesafteraperiod(hopeit'snotyours);and one spaceafter a comma(ifyouevercomeoutofit), and aCaptial letter at the beginning ofanew sentence?Nothing, worse than trying.to read whatsome,onehas.writtenandthey:don'tuse!correctpuctuation?." huh?

Thorns


actually that was quite easy to read, not the easiest, but easy to read...
Title: Your computer is not a typewriter...
Post by: Sandman on March 08, 2005, 07:32:14 PM
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Originally posted by Hawklore
actually that was quite easy to read, not the easiest, but easy to read...


Y3@H, BU7 Y0U\'R3 Y0UN6 3N0U6H 7H@7 Y0U C@N R3@D 7H!5 5H!7.

:D
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Post by: VWE on March 08, 2005, 07:48:28 PM
Sandy  stop  being  a  tard  ...
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Post by: OneWordAnswer on March 08, 2005, 07:57:19 PM
Anal? (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0940208202/103-6524653-3113439)
Title: Your computer is not a typewriter...
Post by: vorticon on March 08, 2005, 08:05:33 PM
im not sure what i do... i dont really use periods, just...'s
Title: Your computer is not a typewriter...
Post by: Halo on March 08, 2005, 09:14:58 PM
Good references, Sandman.  You must be an editor.  

I have no problem with either one or two spaces after periods and colons.  To me, anything that helps break up a glob of type is a bonus.

Main need is consistent style that does not detract from message content.
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Post by: Tarmac on March 08, 2005, 09:24:26 PM
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Originally posted by Hawklore
actually that was quite easy to read, not the easiest, but easy to read...


And then there are those that never follow a period with two spaces, but instead with two more periods.
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Post by: Goth on March 08, 2005, 09:30:13 PM
Boss and I have an ongoing debate about this...I guess cause he's older he's stuck with type learning. I generally don't space twice unless I am typing a letter to the Governor or the President, only then do I follow the old conventional rules.
Title: Your computer is not a typewriter...
Post by: Sandman on March 08, 2005, 09:30:14 PM
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Originally posted by Halo
Good references, Sandman.  You must be an editor.  

Character spacing depends on what makes the best readability.  This paragraph has two spaces between sentences.  Is this easier or harder to read than the next paragraph which has only one space between sentences?  Here are some short sentences for the same comparison:  

He goes there.  She goes there.  They go there.  We go there.  Everyone goes there.  Nobody goes there.  Whew, enough short.

Character spacing depends on what makes the best readability. This paragraph has one space between sentences. Is this easier or harder to read than the next paragraph which has only one space between sentences? Here are some short sentences for the same comparison:

He goes there. She goes there. They go there. We go there. Everyone goes there. Nobody goes there. Whew, enough short.

One space seems enough, doesn't it.  But two spaces like this make the sentences a little more distinctive.  


Hmmm... I don't think the type renders properly on HTML docs. Double spacing after the period is ignored as a rule.
Title: Your computer is not a typewriter...
Post by: Sandman on March 08, 2005, 09:31:57 PM
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Originally posted by Tarmac
And then there are those that never follow a period with two spaces, but instead with two more periods.


It's a BBS habit. For work documents, I never do it.

I also do not use symbols like this: :)
Title: Re: Your computer is not a typewriter...
Post by: Chairboy on March 08, 2005, 09:41:43 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
Your computer is not a typewriter...
Yes it is, you insensitive clod!

(http://www.osfn.org/ricm/magcard2.jpg)
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Post by: Tarmac on March 08, 2005, 09:50:17 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
It's a BBS habit. For work documents, I never do it.

I also do not use symbols like this: :)


I was referring to Hawklore's strange love affair with ellipses, not you.  Yours make sense.  :)

I also do not use symbols like this :aok
Title: Re: Re: Your computer is not a typewriter...
Post by: Sandman on March 08, 2005, 09:51:31 PM
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Yes it is, you insensitive clod!

(http://www.osfn.org/ricm/magcard2.jpg)


LMAO.
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Post by: Tumor on March 08, 2005, 10:06:42 PM
whatmakesyouthinkweneedspaces anyway?spaces?wedon'tneednostinkinspaces!
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Post by: Sandman on March 08, 2005, 10:13:18 PM
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Originally posted by Tumor
whatmakesyouthinkweneedspacesanyway?spaces?wedon'tneednostinkinspaces!


exactlywhilewereatitwhydontwe doawaypunctuationaltogether

:aok
Title: Your computer is not a typewriter...
Post by: Hawklore on March 08, 2005, 11:10:29 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
Y3@H, BU7 Y0U\'R3 Y0UN6 3N0U6H 7H@7 Y0U C@N R3@D 7H!5 5H!7.

:D


sadly, yes i can read that simple ****, but... I can't read the hardcore stuff..

:lol
Title: Your computer is not a typewriter...
Post by: Halo on March 09, 2005, 10:28:59 AM
(quote)

Hmmm... I don't think the type renders properly on HTML docs. Double spacing after the period is ignored as a rule.

(unquote)

Yeah, Sandman, you're right.  I appreciate this bulletin board but am not used to having to work so hard for the type to come out the way I type it.  

It was an interesting example as typed and showed the difference before it was submitted and truncated to one space.  

You snared my attempted example before I realized what happened and deleted it.  

Have to admit that for personal writing I still type two spaces after periods and colons.  I think the extra white space makes easier reading.
Title: Your computer is not a typewriter...
Post by: Krusher on March 09, 2005, 11:14:10 AM
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Originally posted by Tumor
whatmakesyouthinkweneedspacesanyway?spaces?wedon'tneednostinkinspaces!


and think of the paper we can save !
Title: Your computer is not a typewriter...
Post by: Sandman on March 09, 2005, 11:16:26 AM
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Originally posted by Halo
(quote)
Have to admit that for personal writing I still type two spaces after periods and colons.  I think the extra white space makes easier reading.


For me, it depends on the font. Sometimes, the added space makes it harder to read.


...and then there are the people that use two spaces AND center justify the text. It's a pain in the bellybutton to read.
Title: Your computer is not a typewriter...
Post by: Dinger on March 09, 2005, 01:53:31 PM
Yes, I know, but I learned on a brother HR-1 letter-quality daisywheel printer.  So I double-space by instinct.  I try to stop it, but I usually end up doing a "search and replace" before printing a final version.
Title: Your computer is not a typewriter...
Post by: Curval on March 09, 2005, 02:04:43 PM
What really irks me isn't any spacing issue...it is silly spellcheckers.  I had one at work that seemed to think the correct spelling of the word "colour" was "color".  It was a real pain to go back and replace it with the correct spelling.

No idea why it thought that was the correct way to spell that word.....it's fixed now, but...weird.
Title: Your computer is not a typewriter...
Post by: Sandman on March 09, 2005, 02:13:57 PM
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Originally posted by Curval
What really irks me isn't any spacing issue...it is silly spellcheckers.  I had one at work that seemed to think the correct spelling of the word "colour" was "color".  It was a real pain to go back and replace it with the correct spelling.

No idea why it thought that was the correct way to spell that word.....it's fixed now, but...weird.


American English is different than British English. ;)
Title: Your computer is not a typewriter...
Post by: Curval on March 09, 2005, 02:18:54 PM
Two different versions of ENGLISH?  Your kidding?

;) :p
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Post by: indy007 on March 09, 2005, 02:20:51 PM
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Originally posted by Curval
What really irks me isn't any spacing issue...it is silly spellcheckers.  I had one at work that seemed to think the correct spelling of the word "colour" was "color".  It was a real pain to go back and replace it with the correct spelling.

No idea why it thought that was the correct way to spell that word.....it's fixed now, but...weird.


If you see it again, check what region the WP is installed for. They tend to default to English (US), so you get our spelling. :)
Title: Your computer is not a typewriter...
Post by: Sandman on March 09, 2005, 02:21:10 PM
I'm betting there are more than just two. ;)
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Post by: SOB on March 09, 2005, 02:22:40 PM
Man, is Sandy a big anal-retentive homo or what?  I think he needs to find a hobby, or maybe become an English teacher that every student hates.  One space, two spaces, who gives a flip, eh?  Certainly not me, or any sane person out there.  On the other hand, I could just be typing this to be an ass.
Title: Your computer is not a typewriter...
Post by: Sandman on March 09, 2005, 02:30:50 PM
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Originally posted by SOB
Man, is Sandy a big anal-retentive homo or what?  I think he needs to find a hobby, or maybe become an English teacher that every student hates.  One space, two spaces, who gives a flip, eh?  Certainly not me, or any sane person out there.  On the other hand, I could just be typing this to be an ass.


I could go back to the standard complaints (Bush sucks), but that subject is so tired. :p
Title: Your computer is not a typewriter...
Post by: SOB on March 09, 2005, 02:38:22 PM
LOL, chit, I apologize for my negativity, and applaud you for your choice of subject!  Anything but Intardnet politics!
Title: Your computer is not a typewriter...
Post by: Halo on March 09, 2005, 05:24:21 PM
(QUOTE)

For me, it depends on the font. Sometimes, the added space makes it harder to read.

...and then there are the people that use two spaces AND center justify the text. It's a pain in the bellybutton to read.

(UNQUOTE)

Ugh, never liked justifying text.  Always prefer flush left ragged right, which, fortunately, most programs seem inclined toward nowadays.
Title: Your computer is not a typewriter...
Post by: Holden McGroin on March 09, 2005, 09:28:47 PM
(http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Div/Winchester/jhhs/math/humor/comics/computer/god.jpg)

God uses two spaces.
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Post by: Nash on March 09, 2005, 09:55:28 PM
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Originally posted by SOB
One space, two spaces, who gives a flip, eh? Certainly not me, or any sane person out there.


Actually this used to drive me completely nuts. Lets say you had to design an annual report. A hundred pages or so. Then a bunch of copy pours in from some old dude who gave up typing and hired a secretary decades before anyone even knew what a Wang was.

Of course, everything has two spaces. And of course, they look butterin' stoopid when you copy/paste them into the year 1995 or whenever. So you gotta go through and get rid of each and every extra space.

My god what a pain in the arse that was. I've since graduated beyond my text masseuse days.... but when I hear the groans being emitted from cubicles outside my door, it's a pretty safe bet that someone just received an email and looked at the Word attachment.
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Post by: Halo on March 10, 2005, 09:55:04 PM
Heh, yeah, that brings back memories.  Considerate contributors would check the style book at manuscript destination and type accordingly.  

But ... some had other priorities or just were blissfully unaware -- until notified their manuscript was unacceptable until it conformed to style requirements.