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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: FUNKED1 on March 13, 2005, 06:41:58 PM
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Use any production car you want. Preferably one as close as possible to what you drive in real life. No mods except for tires. N3 (Standard Road) tires only.
Real life times here:
http://gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=49455
Results so far:
Me - 2002 WRX STi - 8:19 (Real life 8:24)
Jochen - 2004 BMW M3 - 8:22 (Real life 8:22)
Both our times are going down and he is getting closer to me each time we run. :)
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ooh, give me a few and ill be back:)
too bad there isnt a regular wrx in the game, my friend's got one and he's stuck with the STi too
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LOL I will have to do this tomorow night, hmmm, hard to choose a car since I sold my goat and the only truck like mine is the SS silverado, but thats to much power.
I left my PS 2 over a buddies house tonight, to much crap to lug home lol. Me, dog, cam, spices, left overs etc.
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I think the Silverado would be sweet.
Maybe you could try the new GTO?
Just pick a "real" car you like and go for a good time. Make it fun for you is the main thing.
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Me in a mildly modded BMW M3 '04
Merely a racing exhaust, chipped, sports brakes.
8.04.xx (done last night as part of the BMW M cup, dont remember the exact tenths of a second).
I'll try it again in something standard some time but hadda add the mods I did just to keep up with the BMW M3 GTRs I wuz racing against.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1081438631_swoop.gif)
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I'll try with the m3 so we can compare.
May I suggest the fully upgraded 1960s Subaru (had so much fun racing it in the beginner compact races) or the fully tuned Fiat 500?
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Here's a nice guide (http://www.bmw.com/generic/com/en/fascination/bmwm/automobiles/specials/_pdf/bmwm_nordschleife.pdf) to the Ring.
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
May I suggest the fully upgraded 1960s Subaru (had so much fun racing it in the beginner compact races) or the fully tuned Fiat 500?
That would be pretty funny. Maybe VW Beetles?
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You guys ever seen the British motoring show Top Gear?
Clarkson, the host, took a diesil Jag S type to the ring, he'd never been before.....the aim was a 10 minute lap. Did it in 9.59 after a whole day of trying. Some blonde German bird who'd supposedly done 30,000 laps of the ring went round with him, laughed at him constantly and then took the S type round in 9.20.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1081438631_swoop.gif)
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I have yet to get one clean lap there, too much to learn, and the game pad driving is straining my thumb.
I managed around 10 mins with one of those "fake" Porsches, but about 6 of them where "off-road", that thing just wants to go everywhere when braking :D
I want that nice Logitech? wheel, but the wife already thinks PS2+GT4 last week was enough for our wallets :(
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Ah nordschleife fans... if you are ever close to it... go and take a look at it in real life, or maybe even drive on it for a lap.
That's one scary track. Have driven it about 50 laps in real life, and quit because it got too dangerous.
The first 10 laps (mind you that's 140 miles) you are in danger because you drive to slow, the following 20 laps you start to know the circuit and get faster, after that you are in danger once more because you are beginning to take unnecassery risks, because you believe you know the track.... that's when the nordschleife bites back.
BTG times were about 9:15 most of the time and that was in a relative docile mini cooper.
You might be tough, but armco is tougher.
Cheers!
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Yep did two laps on a bike. in 1999 Sharing the track with everything from busses to ferraris, was bloody scary. Two laps was plenty. been there seen that, done it. got the badge, not doing that again.
:lol
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How about the 64 GTO with Semi Racing suspension, a race trany and mods to give it about 375HP?
I can put in the gear ratios the richmond Gear six speed, I sold Laz in, and the rear ratio my old GTO had.
Then it will be pretty close to the 68 I had that tranny in.
Should be fun, but I bet my time is horid lol.
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I drive the ring almost every weekend when it's open. It should be exciting this year with GT4 out now, just think of all the great "It wasn't this hard on my PS2" crashes to be filmed.
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Is it me or does driving in real life easier? Not that I have a huge amount of time in a 700 HP muscle car etc, but my GTO before the one you guys all saw, was no slow car.
375 HP, (builder claimed more but it did not feel like it, and the cam was only slightly more wild then the stock 250 HP one)
Richmond six speed.
3.55 positraction.
Global west front suspension, including 11 inch disk brakes and aluminum bushings. (car handled so much better it awsome.)
1 1/3 front sway bar. No rear(global west says it is not needed with their arms.)
Faster ratio steering box.
I pushed that car pretty car and it was not hard. Feel has much to do with it, you could feel the car hitting its limits and back off.
You just dont get that in driving games.
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My Formula ( think 1973 Trans am) is the same, you can throw the rear "way out" in the curves, and yet it will come back by keeping the foot on the accelerator pedal.
I guess it's the lack of the "actual in car feeling" Funked was talking about, combined with a limited "traction modeling".
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yeah, kinda sucks all the old cars get stuck with narrow tires hehe.
I was running 255s in the back, I new a guy running 295s, all he did was peen the leep of the wheel well over.
Hard to get more teh 245s up front though, unless you go with lower then 60r.
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IRL it feels quite different. Used to love GPL (grand prix legends)... not the easiest of driving sims... but still you don't get no seats of the pants feeling... and you can crash any time without putting your live at risk.
I can tell you... (as will most who have driven there)... going down fuchsrohe (foxhole) at 125 mph (and then taking the hump up to adenauer forst... you feel the g-forces pressing you down.
When you drive it irl you notice that there aren't any straight bits, it goes up and down all the time, you've got blind corners, off-camber corners, etc.
Knowing the track is everything. (Got a nice pick of me in my 115bhp mini going past a ferrari 360 who obviously didn't know the circuit). You've got locals in pumped up VW golfs MKI's and Opel's going past porches.
And then it hits you (hopefully not literaly), I have to quit this. You start to push to far (even in an underpowered little car like I have).
You are never sure... even if you drive with a big margin for error you aren't save. It's a busy place and the speeddifferences are very large. You can come out of Swedenkreuz packing 100+ mph and then you see a tourbus going 30 mph... 200 yards in front of you.
But still it 's one hell of a place to drive ... only not any longer for me.
Cheers!
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Originally posted by Monk
I drive the ring almost every weekend when it's open. It should be exciting this year with GT4 out now, just think of all the great "It wasn't this hard on my PS2" crashes to be filmed.
Yep Monk... It'll get busier and busier this year... specialy with GT4 coming out.
I'll visit the ring for sure a couple of times... and just take pics... nothing like watching the umpth guy misjudging the final lefthander of Adenauer forst :D
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Lemme practice a bit. Ill post a time in the next couple days.
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Ok so far, with a 64 GTO I was able to sqeek out a 9.05.
Now thats with Race suspension. (changed the spring rate, sway bar, camber, sway bars and ride hight, all stuff I did to my real gto.)
369 HP, (racing exaust, balane, chip and valve job)
the full custom tranny. Set to
First Gear Ratio: 3.28:1
Second Gear Ratio: 2.13:1
Third Gear Ratio: 1.57:1
Fourth Gear Ratio: 1.24:1
Fifth Gear Ratio: 1.00:1
Sixth Gear Ratio: 0.76:1
Rear set to 3.55
This is the exact gear setup my GTO had.
2 way posi.
Sport tires soft. Now I did the tires cause I think when you chose road it sticks you with REALLY crappy tires prolly based on the bias ply redlines it came with in the 60s.
I could get a better time, I spun it three times atleast. lol. No driving aids at all.
I tried witht he regular tires and the car would not stay strait even on a straitaway lol.
Oh thats from a rolling start on practice from Sim mode? Do you start from a stop in arcade?
Was fun, and on the long last strait it topped at 155 I think, not tacked out but out of power.
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Stock silverado SS on road tires I managed a very sloppy 9.05
lol.
the GTO was more fun.
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Whats with guys on that board using a camber setting of 1.0? that would suck on any car that has any kind of lean?
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I dunno... I usually run close to 2.2 front and 1.1 rear on a FR car.
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hmm I vary it with cars but usualy never less then 2.0 depending on how much the car leans in turns.
I was just noticing lotsof guys in the other forums dial it back to 1.0 and think this helps. It should not help at all, especialy on the older cars.
Do they just have no clue?
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Probably.
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Depends on the car(http://www.ibergrennen.de/images/rennen2003/klingel.JPG)
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(http://www.ibergrennen.de/images/rennen2004/ibergrennen2004%20(86).jpg)
(http://www.ibergrennen.de/images/rennen2004/ibergrennen2004%20(90).jpg)
GTO, don't start runing your mouth like you the ****znit, cause we are going to cruise by you so fast than your moma is going to loose her boxer shorts, you feeling me homie?.
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well on the cars in question.
70 charger
71 cuda
AC cobra
I think a camber of one is BAD.
Holly ****! Saur, did you see that Frenchy is hitting on me!
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:lol
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WTF just happened?
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
Depends on the car(http://www.ibergrennen.de/images/rennen2003/klingel.JPG)
I won one of those. :)
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
I won one of those. :)
The car or Herr Timekeeper?
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