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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: frank3 on March 14, 2005, 06:02:58 AM
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This question might've been asked before, but here it is again:
What, exactly, is the difference between our P-47's?
I know the D-11 turns better while the D-40 is faster (stronger engine)
But what more differences (except payload) are there?
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Originally posted by frank3
This question might've been asked before, but here it is again:
What, exactly, is the difference between our P-47's?
I know the D-11 turns better while the D-40 is faster (stronger engine)
But what more differences (except payload) are there?
Canopy is the big difference. Visibility means alot, you can't hit what you can't see. The P47D-40 as the bubble canopy.
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Originally posted by frank3
This question might've been asked before, but here it is again:
What, exactly, is the difference between our P-47's?
I know the D-11 turns better while the D-40 is faster (stronger engine)
But what more differences (except payload) are there?
Also, the D11 has much less range and only one dt. The 25 & 40 both have a tremendous range for the MA. I also thought the D11 climbs and accelerates slower but I could be wrong.
You'd have to get some of the 56th in here to tell you more.
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I see I see, thanks guys. I fly the P-47 very often (when I do fly) but always wondered why there are 3 versions: all have 8 guns, and look pretty much the same (except D-11)
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I hear the d25 is actually the pig of the litter.... Worst power, and worst handling.. but I could be wrong. I fly it for the bubble canopy and the fricken sweet skins =)
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Originally posted by Howitzer
I hear the d25 is actually the pig of the litter.... Worst power, and worst handling.. but I could be wrong. I fly it for the bubble canopy and the fricken sweet skins =)
Not from where I sit ... I prefer the D-25 over the other 2.
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Somehow I do too, though I don't know why...maybe because it's got a better camo over the D-40? No idea though..
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The D40 is uglier than the D25 which is even more ugly than the D11.
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i like the p47s , but unfortunatly it dosn't have a roll in AH...if war was fought like AH, p47s would be 3rd line aircraft.. same gos for a lot of very good aircraft in AH...
skins are exceptionally good for the p47s..:aok
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Much like the F4U series and the -1, the D-11 is actually the faster better handling of the three and unless you are dropping bombs it pwns the other two. I dont have any trouble with the canopy in the D-11.
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I guess we at the 56th are simply delusional about the idea we can fly these oversized dinosours and actually land anything other than our pride in ditches..........:D
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The difference? The D11 will allow you to get 1 more kill before you die. The point being you're gonna die regardless.
Jugs suck...
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MMMmmm hers my opinion
d11-
Positive: Fastest p47, Turns best.
Negative: Stupid canopy, range, Climb is horrible, acceleration is poor
d25-
Overview: it's a d40 without as good of wep. Although people will say it handles better than d40 i think it's mostly in their minds. ANd improved range over d11.
d40-
Positive- Good visability, best acceleration (with wep), best climb (with wep), Dive flaps, improved range over d11, best ordinance package.
Negative: not as fast as d11 or as agile.
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Originally posted by Grits
Much like the F4U series and the -1, the D-11 is actually the faster better handling of the three and unless you are dropping bombs it pwns the other two. I dont have any trouble with the canopy in the D-11.
Shhhhhhhh don't tell everyone!
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Originally posted by RightF00T
Jugs suck...
I think you have that backwards ...
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D 40 actually faster then D11.
Climb rate and high alt performance D11 dead last.
Acceleration D11.....D25 and D40 40 slightly faster.
D11 handles better low......but all three are close.
All very good SLOW speed handlers. Can make over aggressive enemies auger into the ground whilst you wallow about .
Gun package is super. 8X50 cals break a lot of stuff.
Jug does nothing great....but does all things well.
As a Fighter Bomber there is no equal.
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Originally posted by RightF00T
Jugs suck...
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I think you have that backwards ...
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Err, the D11 is a lighter plane, but the D40 has a heavier engine.
The D40 is faster, but takes longer to get up there.
The D11 is not as fast, but gets there quicker.
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Its only by 2-3 MPH but the D-11 is faster than the D-40.
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anyone who cant land kills in the jug needs to change their fighting style in it.
Jugs are monsters.
on the plus side:
range
guns
ord
stall characteristics.
easy to rope-a-dope
easy to BnZ
easy to turn fight almost anything but spits and the slow TnBers.
skins
guns
Higher you go, better performance gets
looks - totaly beautifull from any angle
history
people confuse you with a noobie JABO and treat you with contempt untill you're shooting all those GUNS at them, glued to their tail.
guns
tough as your grandma and more beefy than Arnie.
guns.
on the down side:
big target
not less than 2 weeks ago i had both elevators shot off, lost a flap and an aileron, and had 3 guns shot out (damn, only 5 left :p) and managed to get her down for a 3 point landing after killing upwards of 5 enemies.
thats right.....no elevators. On the carefull instruction of YUCCA i managed to glide her in and used a little power to level before landing.
The Jug is my number 3 top plane for MA use after the spit5 and the corsair.
dont mess with the Thunderbolt. the fact that people here actually say its worthless, or anything less than perfect for MA use just dont have a clue.....
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Originally posted by mechanic
The Jug is my number 3 top plane for MA use after the spit5 and the corsair.
dont mess with the Thunderbolt. the fact that people here actually say its worthless, or anything less than perfect for MA use just dont have a clue.....
Bat, sometimes I think you are my twin we think so much alike...
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:eek:
that milkman musta worked damn hard on my mother all those years ago.....i already have a 'twin' who lives in Holland!
welcome to the family!
errr...or pleased to join yours :)
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Best plane in game is f4u-4. Its a beast.
BEAST i tells yeah!
ps... d25 can do backflips easier. d40 can rope better d11 can out turn better
imho:D
PS: F4u-4 part is true. it is teh best
intill f8f
maybe b29
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Spade, it's past your bedtime, skoooool tumorrow!
:lol
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d11 is faster than d40
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I've always enjoyed furballing in the D-11. It's by far my favorite jug. Best thing about it is people underestimate it. Can't hardly see out of it tho. It's a challenge and means more when you get a 'good' kill in it.
As for the comparison part I'm not a good judge as I have not flown the others much. Do plan to try them out over time...
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I used to spend a lot of time in the d11. It's a straight up incredible plane, but it's not easy to fly to it's strengths. Successfully flying any p47 requires a very good understanding of reversals, so unless you're getting comfortable with having someone on your 6 you're not going to have much fun.
When comparing the jugs I find that the d40 is the most offensive while the d11 is the most defensive. Success in the d40 is built around trying to be the aggressor while an aggressive d11 pilot thrives in a 1 on 3 doing roling evasive on the deck.
All these planes get their strength from the 400mph flap deployment allowing them to dump E for the quick reverse. This is why you'll see punks like ManeTMP land 10 kills in a jug every time he flys one.
-pellik
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Personally I phear Jugs, as long as its not a huge jug raid.
Every time you see a high alt lone or paired jug near a furball you know its a very good pilot flying it.
Good pilots at high alt in a Jug == leathal.
Tex
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The difference? The D11 will allow you to get 1 more kill before you die. The point being you're gonna die regardless.
When I used to play AH1 my favourite ride was Jug-d30. Here's my stats on a couple tours, nothing impressive granted but hardly useless for a plane either.
(http://xs20.xs.to/pics/05113/Clip.jpg)
(http://xs20.xs.to/pics/05113/Clip_2.jpg)
And note these came by furballing, not vulching or 100% cherrypicking.
The first score includes a low alt fight against 3 ponies against me alone - which I won and rtb'd. I think I even have it on film.
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Hey siaf -- if you have that film, I'd love to see it. Working on understanding reversal moves, can use all the examples I can get....
P.S. Eagler -- I read your post, but I'm not getting any wisdom out of "kcus sguj"
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The D-11 has only 6 50's.
The engines are the same as the plane was designed around the supercharger,that explains it's enormous size.
The D-40 is a later version so all the bugs had been worked out.
:aok
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Hmmm....my D-11 has 8 .50's...maybe I'm special?
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Someone once said 'If you load a P-47 with 6 guns, you'd better pick the P-51' Which I found very true :)
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Simaril I'll try to find them if AH film now can open old format films. They're from 2002 AH1.
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Siaf look up which plane I fly the most then tell me if I was being serious ;) .
ID: LeftF00T
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Jugs are only meant to be fondled, not flown.;)
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The D11 flys longer with a fireball trailing from its arse.
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You heathens :)
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Simaril I'll try to find them if AH film now can open old format films. They're from 2002 AH1.
If you do find them, dont worry about format -- I kept AH1 on hard drive specifically for films. :aok
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Simaril I couldnt get all the films working even with AH1 for some reason.
But I did find an old movie with about 6 kills and getting bounced by La7, 205 and a spit (2vs1) and win in P47.
Gimme your email and I'll send it.
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