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Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: Staga on March 14, 2005, 04:52:09 PM
World wide quality of life survey (http://www.mercerhr.com/pressrelease/details.jhtml/dynamic/idContent/1173105)
Title: Re: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: GRUNHERZ on March 14, 2005, 04:54:02 PM
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Originally posted by Staga
World wide quality of life survey (http://www.mercerhr.com/pressrelease/details.jhtml/dynamic/idContent/1173105;jsessionid=WQL0QXL5BGVPCCTGOUGCIIQKMZ0QYI2C)


Thats hillarious, really.  We have several  wealthy neighborhoods here in the Bay Area with a much higher standard of living than that. And yes, they are pretty much directly comporable.
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: Staga on March 14, 2005, 04:57:46 PM
So that survey went over your head? OK.
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: rabbidrabbit on March 14, 2005, 06:41:39 PM
The results of many surveys like this are always skewed by the survey takers.
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: Suave on March 14, 2005, 06:47:50 PM
How can you do a quality of life survey that doesn't consider national defense? I hope I'm not in Luxemburg next time the germans go german.
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: Nash on March 14, 2005, 06:51:33 PM
They ranked Vancouver 3rd, which is a total laugh.... so....
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: Sandman on March 14, 2005, 08:32:08 PM
Plus... this is just a summary of the survey. To see the results, you must provide $$$.
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 14, 2005, 08:39:08 PM
Well this part explains alot

"Cities are ranked against New York as the base city"

Also how do they define city?

what are the population differences?
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: GRUNHERZ on March 14, 2005, 08:48:38 PM
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Originally posted by Nash
They ranked Vancouver 3rd, which is a total laugh.... so....


I loved Vancouver, especially the street kids burning trash to stay warm in the rain....
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: Saintaw on March 15, 2005, 01:09:46 AM
Look at that bunch of ladies arguing over something they have not even seen. :rolleyes:

I live here, and yes, it has some good sides ($$$) and some bad ones (bars close at 1AM).
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: -tronski- on March 15, 2005, 02:41:52 AM
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Originally posted by Saintaw
Look at that bunch of ladies arguing over something they have not even seen. :rolleyes:

I live here, and yes, it has some good sides ($$$) and some bad ones (bars close at 1AM).


Agreed... Sydney 8th= eh...hrmmmm

 Tronsky
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: SOB on March 15, 2005, 02:44:04 AM
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Originally posted by Saintaw
Look at that bunch of ladies arguing over something they have not even seen. :rolleyes:

I live here, and yes, it has some good sides ($$$) and some bad ones (bars close at 1AM).

The mere fact that you reside there kinda says it all, eh? :p
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: Siaf__csf on March 15, 2005, 03:30:57 AM
The survey included the level of crime as one important factor in the quality of living. It has nothing to do with wealth.
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: Saintaw on March 15, 2005, 04:05:27 AM
If what siaf says is true, then I'll agree. This place goes hand in hand with Japan, you can walk down the streets wearing only a miniskirt at 3 AM, and nothing will happen to you. There's a lot of pooolice, then ther are the 3 times more numerous private bank armies (read security companies) roaming the streets 24/7.

I'm not much for policed states, but I have to say, I've never been in a safer place ever, and I did move around a bit.

SOB, you need a J.O.B if you wanna beeeee with meeeeee!!! (Then I'll take HALF your sh*t!)
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: Siaf__csf on March 15, 2005, 04:31:20 AM
Saint didn't you read the link? It says on the first lines:

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Luxembourg ranks as the world’s top city for personal safety and security, according to a quality of life survey by Mercer Human Resource Consulting. The city scores 122.5 followed by Helsinki, Bern, Geneva, and Zurich which take joint second place with scores of 120.
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: Saintaw on March 15, 2005, 04:56:45 AM
Naw, I immediately saw Grun's face: "Something better than my usa? IMPOSIBAL!!! Even for an exprrermunt!!111"
:lol
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: mora on March 15, 2005, 05:42:24 AM
Quite interesting that Helsinki scores that high. The city isn't particularly safe IMO. I've had much more trouble right at downtown than in many other capitals. Also there are many areas where you will get your car or motorbike stolen or vandalized immediately if you don't  have good alarms, but I guess that's not included in personal safety.

Seems like a flawed survey to me.
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: Pooh21 on March 15, 2005, 06:09:06 AM
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Originally posted by Saintaw
This place goes hand in hand with Japan, you can walk down the streets wearing only a miniskirt at 3 AM, and nothing will happen to you.  


Thats a bit too much personal information there Saw.
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: Gh0stFT on March 15, 2005, 06:12:12 AM
interesting survey.
Somehow its nice to know at what level you live compared to other citys,
but does it change anything? guess not, live goes on so or so.
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: Saintaw on March 15, 2005, 07:11:13 AM
Yeah Pooh, I was kind of dissapointed when nothing happened ;)
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: Ripper29 on March 15, 2005, 08:05:22 AM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I loved Vancouver, especially the street kids burning trash to stay warm in the rain....


Like there are no homeless people in San Francisco...what a paradise your living in
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Fewer homeless people on streets of San Francisco
28% drop since fall of '02, but other counties report higher numbers

Kevin studmuffinan, Chronicle Staff Writer

Tuesday, February 15, 2005
 
San Francisco's homeless population plummeted by more than a quarter in the past two years, the city reported Monday, a dramatic change Mayor Gavin Newsom says is a credit to his policies of   cutting cash assistance to street people and aggressively moving them into housing with counseling services

San Francisco's new figures are based on a , "one-night homeless count taken between 8 p.m. Jan. 26 and about 8 a.m. the next morning. It showed the city now has 6,248 homeless people living on the streets or in jails, shelters, rehabilitation centers or other emergency facilities -- a 28 percent decline compared to 8,640 in October 2002, the last time such a count was conducted.

"There are still a lot of homeless people out there, and I'm still seeing some of the same people I've seen for the past 10 years," Newsom said at a news conference to announce the numbers. "But it's time to start focusing on the good things that are happening."

The new figures were met with disbelief from homeless advocates who say they don't square with reality on the streets. And they come at a time when most other counties in the Bay Area expect to report an increase in their homeless populations, leading to speculation that perhaps some homeless people are being driven out of the city by its welfare-slashing Care Not Cash program.

"It's an outrageous undercount, politically motivated," said Jennifer Friedenbach of the San Francisco advocacy group the Coalition on Homelessness. "We've been looking at encampments and visit 15 different sites a week, and the numbers may have dropped a little, but we have not seen as dramatic a drop.
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: Krusher on March 15, 2005, 08:13:53 AM
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Originally posted by -tronski-
Agreed... Sydney 8th= eh...hrmmmm

 Tronsky



My wife travels for a living and has been to Sydney many times. She considers Sydney and San Francisco the two best cities in the world.

too bad we cant afford to live in either !
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: rabbidrabbit on March 15, 2005, 08:19:12 AM
Well saw...  if I saw a nice tight skirt walking down the street I'd be happy.. but the hairy manballs bouncing below it would be a bit of a downer....  but hey...  keep trolling...>
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: SOB on March 15, 2005, 09:06:51 AM
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Originally posted by Ripper29
Like there are no homeless people in San Francisco...what a paradise your living in

My, isn't somebody grumpy this morning.
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: Ripper29 on March 15, 2005, 10:07:15 AM
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Originally posted by SOB
My, isn't somebody grumpy this morning.


not enough coffee yet, please accept my most profound apology for any offence or inconvience I may have caused. :rolleyes:
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: Masherbrum on March 15, 2005, 11:06:10 AM
I believe most missed this garbage.

"Scores for personal safety and security are based on relationships with other countries, internal stability, and crime, including terrorism. "

:rofl

Karaya
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: Furball on March 15, 2005, 11:09:13 AM
the best city is quite clearly chernobyl!! nowhere else has such a high concentration of healthy happy rays!!  This is blatant western propoganda!!

;)
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: Masherbrum on March 15, 2005, 11:12:08 AM
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Originally posted by Furball
the best city is quite clearly chernobyl!! nowhere else has such a high concentration of healthy happy rays!!  This is blatant western propoganda!!

;)


Glasnost never happened!  We shall hang them from the highest tree!

Karaya
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: Toad on March 15, 2005, 11:40:31 AM
And then there's those of us that think living in any city pretty much puts your quality of life in the dumper.


*DING* "Survey SAYS:  CITIES SUXXOR!"

"Oh giiiivvve meeeee a HOME, where the BUFFaLOooOOOOooow ROAM and the deeeeeeeer and the antelOPE plaaaaaaay! "

;)
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: Masherbrum on March 15, 2005, 12:06:23 PM
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Originally posted by Toad
And then there's those of us that think living in any city pretty much puts your quality of life in the dumper.


*DING* "Survey SAYS:  CITIES SUXXOR!"

"Oh giiiivvve meeeee a HOME, where the BUFFaLOooOOOOooow ROAM and the deeeeeeeer and the antelOPE plaaaaaaay! "

;)


LMFAO!

Karaya
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: Siaf__csf on March 15, 2005, 12:08:12 PM
Don't give up your day job as a singer Toad. That was beaautiful.
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: Staga on March 15, 2005, 02:00:20 PM
I'd hate to kick moose to the balls to get into my car at the morning.
Thanks; I'll stay at the city :)
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: beet1e on March 15, 2005, 02:15:07 PM
ROFL Toad! What's wrong with cities? But I tend to agree, I wouldn't want to live in a large one. Luxembourg is OK though - I love that bridge/viaduct which overlooks the town. Luxembourg (the city) isn't that big, I don't think. It's one of the few places where the capital city has the same name as the country. The only other one I can think of is Mexico/Mexico City.
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: Toad on March 15, 2005, 02:29:54 PM
What's wrong with cities?

They're chock full of people who think they know what's best for everyone.

You have those in the country too.... they just can't get near you or affect you as much and the density/percent of them is far, far lower.

Cities are OK to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.

I'm looking for my country place right now. The city came out and swallowed up the little town I bought into 20 years ago. The nannes are swarming like termites.

Flee! Flee!

Oh giiiIIvvveeEE meeeEEEE  a HooOOOooome....
Title: WTG Luxemburg!
Post by: Saintaw on March 15, 2005, 07:15:51 PM
And live with the smell of cow dung my whole life? *smug look* Thanks, I'll pass...

Beetle is right, it's illegal to get lost here! Takes 20 minutes to walk the town :)