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Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: GtoRA2 on March 14, 2005, 10:50:55 PM
Weekly GT4 Challenge?

How’s this for an idea.

Once a week on a rotating basis one of the GT4 guys here, picks a car and a track we all race for the best times and compare.

We could also rotate it so, one guys chooses the car, another of us the track.

In this one I think the guy choosing the car gets to specify the mods but not the settings. An example would be.

71 cuda, race suspension, full custom tranny, sports tires medium, normal exhaust, NA tune 1, port and polish, balance, chip.

No lightening.

Then not only is it best on track but best at car setup.


What do you guys think? I think this could be fun, plus we could maybe learn a bit more about good car setups.
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: moose on March 14, 2005, 11:30:21 PM
has anyone figured out how to do the internet link thing to get games over the net? thatd be really cool
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: GtoRA2 on March 15, 2005, 11:31:45 AM
I think it shipped with that feature no implimented.
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: tikky on March 15, 2005, 02:19:57 PM
can GT4 be played online?
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 15, 2005, 02:23:36 PM
You can do it with Xlink, info at http://www.gtplanet.net.  I have not tried but I understand it works well once you get it going.
Title: Re: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 15, 2005, 02:27:31 PM
Quote
Originally posted by GtoRA2
Weekly GT4 Challenge?

How’s this for an idea.

Once a week on a rotating basis one of the GT4 guys here, picks a car and a track we all race for the best times and compare.

We could also rotate it so, one guys chooses the car, another of us the track.

In this one I think the guy choosing the car gets to specify the mods but not the settings. An example would be.

71 cuda, race suspension, full custom tranny, sports tires medium, normal exhaust, NA tune 1, port and polish, balance, chip.

No lightening.

Then not only is it best on track but best at car setup.


What do you guys think? I think this could be fun, plus we could maybe learn a bit more about good car setups.


Just have the winner choose the track and car.
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: GtoRA2 on March 15, 2005, 02:32:01 PM
I may never get to chose then! lol.


plus if you keep it seperate the person can not practive to much before the week.
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: moose on March 15, 2005, 02:43:34 PM
yeah, i meant xlink.. one of these nights ill hook it up
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 15, 2005, 04:22:40 PM
We should do Tsukuba, easy to learn and lots of real life lap times available.

I also like Frenchy's idea of using funny cars like FIAT 500's or Subaru 360's.
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: GtoRA2 on March 15, 2005, 04:32:19 PM
well that the beuty of rotating who pics cars.


LOL a budy and I did some race with those crappy hondas with 30 HP! it was funny as hell! My truck accelerated faster at idle!
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 15, 2005, 05:10:26 PM
There is a ballast setting in the setup.  We could just force each week's winner to carry penalty ballast.  I think it goes up to 100kg, pretty significant if we are all in the same car.  We can put it up front to make the car push like a pig.  :)
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: GtoRA2 on March 15, 2005, 05:15:14 PM
Thats a good idea! lol I like it.
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: Saurdaukar on March 15, 2005, 06:43:25 PM
Im down... just no Ring... takes too long to learn that track.. youll be finding full seconds each lap for weeks.

I motion to begin at Seca.
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 15, 2005, 08:05:29 PM
OK here's the rules. (Let me know if you disagree.)

- Two divisions - Wheel and Gamepad.
- Wheel winner calls next week's track or car (pick one).
- Gamepad winner calls track or car (whatever the wheel winner didn't pick)
- The person specifying which car to use will also specify which mods and TCS/ASM settings are to be used.
- N1, N2, N3 tires only.
- Run laps in GT mode practice.  No other cars on track for drafting.
- Post laptimes by Monday AM.
- Best single lap wins.
- Winners make their "calls" by Tuesday AM.
- Winners must carry maximum ballast on front axle for next week's competition.
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: GtoRA2 on March 15, 2005, 08:09:54 PM
my only exception would be, the person selecting the car gets to chose tires as well, but no racing tires just sports and regular.


My reasoning behind this is the all the 60 and 70s cars REALLY suck on road tires lol.
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on March 15, 2005, 09:51:21 PM
That's where the fun is GTO, it's to power drift in the turn rather than slaloming around at 100 MPH like "cruising USA".

I'll add

- no TC for cars that do not have it in RL.
- N tires combo to driver discretion, so you can make your car oversteer.
- Power boost 100HP max over original car HP( blower/turbo/eng tune job combo), specify NOS yes/no.
- can we add racericer wings?
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: Saurdaukar on March 15, 2005, 11:24:59 PM
I say all driving aids off, too.
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: Swoop on March 16, 2005, 02:08:52 AM
Quote
Originally posted by FUNKED1
- Two divisions - Wheel and Gamepad.
- Wheel winner calls next week's track or car (pick one).
- Gamepad winner calls track or car (whatever the wheel winner didn't pick)
- The person specifying which car to use will also specify which mods and TCS/ASM settings are to be used.
- N1, N2, N3 tires only.
- Run laps in GT mode practice.  No other cars on track for drafting.
- Post laptimes by Monday AM.
- Best single lap wins.
- Winners make their "calls" by Tuesday AM.
- Winners must carry maximum ballast on front axle for next week's competition.



100kg of ballast in one go is a bit much.  Win one race, have 25kgs.....win the next as well, have 50kgs, win a 3rd, 75kg, win the 4th in a row and you're at max ballast.  Anything other than a 1st place resets ballast to zero.

Also, the car picked must be available to buy easily, not one you have to win.

And.....for long term bragging rights, lets award points for the drivers championship.  10 for 1st, 6 for 2nd, etc.


And heck it's only wednesday, let's start.  GTO, your idea, your pick.

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Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 16, 2005, 02:13:39 AM
Turns out ballast maxes out at 200kg.  :eek:

How's 50kg per week?
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: Swoop on March 16, 2005, 02:15:07 AM
how bout 25kgs per axle per win?

I think 200kgs all up front means you're coming last so if ya win a race you may as well not race next week.

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Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 16, 2005, 02:16:02 AM
Quote
Originally posted by GtoRA2
My reasoning behind this is the all the 60 and 70s cars REALLY suck on road tires lol.

Yeah they sucked in real life too.  :)
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 16, 2005, 02:21:06 AM
OK there is some difference of opinion regarding driving aids and mods and tires.  Let's just let the winner make the call on that each week.

Also do we need a gamepad division?  Are there enough pad users to justify it, or does everybody have a wheel?
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 16, 2005, 02:22:34 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Swoop
how bout 25kgs per axle per win?


That's perfect.  The sliders default to neutral CG (weight is added at the CG) so the winner would just have to go in the setup menu and add 50kg.
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: Swoop on March 16, 2005, 02:27:39 AM
Pad user here.

Ew....I feel dirty now that I admit it.

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Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 16, 2005, 02:31:49 AM
It's all good, I just want to make sure the wheel geeks don't clobber everybody.
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: takeda on March 16, 2005, 02:33:07 AM
Pad here too, unlike new games or computer upgrades, can't really sneak the wheel past the wifey until I "win" it in some way.
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: Swoop on March 16, 2005, 03:38:30 AM
I think I can keep up with a wheel user.  No need for two divisions.

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Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: Swoop on March 16, 2005, 03:42:53 AM
Quote
Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
- no TC for cars that do not have it in RL.
- N tires combo to driver discretion, so you can make your car oversteer.
- Power boost 100HP max over original car HP( blower/turbo/eng tune job combo), specify NOS yes/no.
- can we add racericer wings?



Re mods:  Leave it up to the winner to specify.  However, whoever is doing the picking keep in mind that if ya pick a DB9 with every mod there is......that's somewhere around a 300,000cr investment.  S'gonna be cheaper & easier (and possibly more fun) to pick a mini and leave it unmodded.

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Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: takeda on March 16, 2005, 03:48:06 AM
300K credits is change, that Med rally special condition event is kinda a money cheat :)
No pad division is ok, I'm bound to be last either way.
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 16, 2005, 09:27:32 AM
Alright GTO call a car and track and I'll make an event start post since I'm feeling bossy.  :)
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: indy007 on March 16, 2005, 09:46:41 AM
See, this is why you hippies need the Polyphony Formula. No upgrades at all, 1 type of tires, & still challenging to tune. :) :)

So where we going? Leguna Seca, Motegi, Fuji (I like the 90s) ??
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: GtoRA2 on March 16, 2005, 10:19:07 AM
Ok cool.

Let start with, leguna Seca.

69 Z28 Camaro.

NA 1
Race suspension so we can play with suspension settings.

Port and polish, chip and balance.

Full custom tranny.

Race brakes.

Tires Sports medium.

No driving aids at all.
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: newguy on March 16, 2005, 10:24:19 AM
An idea: Instead of listing what mods you are allowed to have, have a $$$ limit on how much you can spend to mod. Not sure how feasable this is, as I dont own the game yet, but it would be cool to see what people come up with to get the most out of the car.
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: Swoop on March 16, 2005, 10:38:53 AM
He's got an idea there ya know.....

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Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: indy007 on March 16, 2005, 11:04:30 AM
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Originally posted by newguy
An idea: Instead of listing what mods you are allowed to have, have a $$$ limit on how much you can spend to mod. Not sure how feasable this is, as I dont own the game yet, but it would be cool to see what people come up with to get the most out of the car.


That's actually probably the best idea. Capri takes about 10 minutes to run total, and gives you 320k-ish credits. That's too much though, too easy to make a UFO with that kinda cash. A 75k limit seems more than reasonable. 17k tranny, and 58k to spread across drivetrain/brakes/lightening/etc. I think NOS would be a bit overpowering though for the 5k it costs since we're doing time attacks & can get a fresh bottle every other lap :)
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: GtoRA2 on March 16, 2005, 11:06:24 AM
Thats does not sound to bad to me,  does the car chooser specify the amount?

This is going to rock.
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: indy007 on March 16, 2005, 11:10:12 AM
Quote
Originally posted by GtoRA2
Thats does not sound to bad to me,  does the car chooser specify the amount?

This is going to rock.


Turning up an extra server today. Soon as I finish updating MySQL, Apache, & some other stuff, I'll put up
GT4Week..com on it so there's a convenient little site the winner can update to pick the next weeks challenge.
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: GtoRA2 on March 16, 2005, 11:17:19 AM
cool!
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: Swoop on March 16, 2005, 11:36:40 AM
So we having an amount (GTO picking?) or sticking to the mod list already posted?

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Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: GtoRA2 on March 16, 2005, 11:41:16 AM
I am cool either way, I am at work though so calculating an amount is a tad problematic.


And do the tires stay set? I think they should not be part of the upgrade cost pool.
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: Swoop on March 16, 2005, 11:43:52 AM
Yeah tyres part of the upgrade costs.

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Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: GtoRA2 on March 16, 2005, 11:47:30 AM
SO what is a good amount for the 69 Z28?

Is the cost of upgrades the same on all cars?
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: indy007 on March 16, 2005, 11:56:10 AM
Quote
Originally posted by GtoRA2
SO what is a good amount for the 69 Z28?

Is the cost of upgrades the same on all cars?


The cost can vary minutely (like 2-3k) between the manufacturer's factory racing stuff & tuner stuff, but that's the exception rather than the norm. 75k is pretty good number. If we're sticking with street tires, they're what, 8k? Full tranny 17k. stage 1 lightening 5k, NOS 5k. That's still a good 40k for brakes, exhaust, stage 1 or 2 turbo, chip, flywheel, clutch, etc. If y'all are feeling saucy, jumping to 100k is probably worth another 50-100hp at least.

and yeah, no matter what the car is, upgrades still cost the same. when building UFOs, I always assume cost of car + 400k (includes all available tires).
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: GtoRA2 on March 16, 2005, 12:00:55 PM
How about 75k, any tires but racing, but they are part of the 75 k cost?
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: Swoop on March 16, 2005, 12:09:26 PM
75k it is.  I'll start work on it now......

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Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on March 16, 2005, 12:14:13 PM
I think we should limit the budget for the car upgrade at 25k. So each has to decide what is the best use of the money (handling/or engine, trany), so we don't end up driving UFOs.
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: GtoRA2 on March 16, 2005, 12:40:33 PM
I think 75 k is good we wont end up with UFOs, cause you cant afford many engine upgrades.

But thats the beuty of the system frechy! Win and you get to chose the amount of credits!
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on March 16, 2005, 12:59:04 PM
Gee I maybe have 2-3h during the whole week to spend time on this stuff. I don't expect to win anything hehehe. So, what's the track honey?
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: GtoRA2 on March 16, 2005, 01:00:31 PM
leguna sucka.

er seca,

The sandy curves should make it a chalange with the old Camaro.
Title: Weekly GT4 Challenge?
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on March 16, 2005, 01:05:25 PM
Can't u choose an easier track ... dono ... Las Vegas?;)  Laguana will make my underwheels all rusty, and the sand will destroy my brand 6K new paint job. Have u no consideration for those things of the past?