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Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: Howitzer on March 15, 2005, 12:26:42 AM
I saw another post making reference to kills/hour and I thought I'd bring it up.  I've decided that I'm not flying for score, and I'm also not doing anything besides fighters.  I'll mess with a gv now and again, but they always leave me with that "morning after you wake up with that ugly broad who has more stories about her than Harry Potter": sorta dirty, itchy, and needing a shower.

I was trying to work on different fighter aspects.  First I tried K/D, but then found that is pointless because its easy to do if you BnZ and don't put yourself in danger.  Then I tried hit %.  I was around 15% in AH1, and the best I can seem to get is about 11% here.  I've given up on becoming any better at that.

I have to tell you though, I'm freakin stuck at about 8.3 kills an hour and 2.02 kills a sortie.  I can't seem to do any better.  With the advent of the fun nazis, I find that I fly around in search of good fights rather than actually shooting down people.  Sooooo, how do you guys with 9+ kills an hour or 3+ kills a sortie do it?  I mean even if I have a fantabulous night and kill every p40 I see in hopes that I find the one Stang is driving  :p  I still can't seem to get better at it.  Because I'll have a terrible night that just evens me back out.  

Just late night thoughts from Howie... any thoughts?  discuss pls =)

Title: Re: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: Stang on March 15, 2005, 12:32:12 AM
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Originally posted by Howitzer
 I mean even if I have a fantabulous night and kill every p40 I see in hopes that I find the one Stang is driving  :p  


Nevah!

 :D
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: mechanic on March 15, 2005, 12:53:03 AM
well, if ya really want to improve that aspect of rank...

all you got to do to raise K/H is fly a CV deffence furball/CV attack on a base furball for 1 hour.

undoubtably you should rack up 20kills/hour minimum like this.

i think your score at present reflects to one who just plays for fun and good fights. mine looks similar, and while some days i can kill 30 guys in one hours furballing (dying probably atleast 10-15 times for that), on other days I'll troll around right up at 8k lookig for a decent 1on1 that will either end my sortie or take long enuogh to send me rtb after.

but yeah.... furballing is the only way to improve k/h.

better jump outta that 190 and into a CV plane for a bit to see best results.
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: Howitzer on March 15, 2005, 08:34:48 AM
Well haven't flown the a5 much for a few tours.  Mostly f6f5, jug, spitV and tempest.  Ballistics on the german rides just aren't for me, but the a5 is an old favorite.  I do like the typh as well because of the 4 cannons, but it just isn't much of a furball ride unless you use it as an E fighter....
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: Dead Man Flying on March 15, 2005, 08:42:16 AM
Just fly a Tempest all the time and your K/D, K/S, and K/H will skyrocket.

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: Howitzer on March 15, 2005, 08:44:45 AM
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Just fly a Tempest all the time and your K/D, K/S, and K/H will skyrocket.

-- Todd/Leviathn


I can believe that... The Temp is a hoss any way you shake it.  I have to be averaging about 7 kills a sortie with that thing.  If you have a feel for how hispanos fire, you get mad kills in that thing.
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: wetrat on March 15, 2005, 09:55:08 AM
Umm... just kill fast.
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: Goth on March 15, 2005, 10:02:41 AM
I also haven't cared about scores in forever...My problem is hit %. In AH1 I had a decent 9-11% monthly, now I'm lucky to get 4-5%. I can't shake that monkey loose and get any better.

Half my problem is I can't see the durn planes. Even at ranges of 200 it is very difficult for me to see them. I have messed with resolution sizes and it really doesn't change the size aspect, just makes things look uglier. I honestly think the only way I be able to see again is if I buy a 21" crt, because my 19" LCD just ain't cutting it.
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: Howitzer on March 15, 2005, 12:03:22 PM
Yeah, I'm not so much "caring" about the score as I'm just using this to benchmark where I'm at and try to build on it.  Seeing planes in AH2 is a problem for me as well for some reason.  AH1 I would never use the zoom when firing, and now I simply cannot live without it.  I have a 21" CRT and it works pretty well for me.  You can get one at Ubid for about 200 bucks.. .so it may not be that bad of a purchase.
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: Callisto on March 15, 2005, 12:32:21 PM
Kill per sortie? :lol
Kills per hour? :lol



Fighter K/D ratio the only way to go.!!!

:p
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: eskimo2 on March 15, 2005, 01:00:34 PM
This is probably my strongest suit:

•   Don’t take off from a base unless there are plenty of low enemy within sight.
•   Don’t take off from a base where you are outnumbered more than 1:3 or outnumber the enemy more than 3:1.
•   Don’t climb over 4K.
•   Bring little gas, lots of ammo, and shoot at everything that you can.
•   Don’t worry too much about living.

eskimo
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on March 15, 2005, 01:08:19 PM
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Originally posted by Goth
I also haven't cared about scores in forever...My problem is hit %. In AH1 I had a decent 9-11% monthly, now I'm lucky to get 4-5%. I can't shake that monkey loose and get any better.

Half my problem is I can't see the durn planes. Even at ranges of 200 it is very difficult for me to see them. I have messed with resolution sizes and it really doesn't change the size aspect, just makes things look uglier. I honestly think the only way I be able to see again is if I buy a 21" crt, because my 19" LCD just ain't cutting it.


Do you zoom in on them at all?  I'm using a 17" CRT right now and have no trouble at anything from 400 down getting a good view.  Even out to 600 I can still tell whats what.  At d800 the plane is only recognizable as a plane (i.e. I can see wings and fuselage and tail structure, but no details).  At 1.5k I can see enough to tell if it's turning or not lol.

I keep the Z key mapped to one of my stick buttons so I can flip it back and forth in a dog fight for better gunnery.  I found it doubled my hit%, and it saved me alot of greif not having to look down to the keyboard to find it when I needed it.
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: FiLtH on March 15, 2005, 01:32:31 PM
I hate the zoom key. I never use it. It tends to magnify any input I do w/ the stick. Gets all wobbly. I havent lloked at scores for months now. I look at it this way. Tuff won kills blend in w/ vulches so its a soup to figure out.

 I just try to win the fight Im in, if I do Im happy, if I dont I did something stupid, or just said to heck w/ it and tried the best I could with what I had.
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: OIO on March 15, 2005, 01:39:20 PM
want good kill ratio?


furball in high ENY planes until you can afford 262.


Then fly the jet and ALWAYS keep it at 600mph and dont fly near flak/AAA .


Your stats skyrocket.
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: wetrat on March 15, 2005, 01:40:51 PM
I've had zoom mapped to my index finger button on my throttle since AH1. I shot high 30%'s in AH1, and about 18% now... it helps. I can't hit things without it :D Flying planes with nose mounted guns helps too.
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: wetrat on March 15, 2005, 01:44:01 PM
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Originally posted by OIO
Then fly the jet and ALWAYS keep it at 600mph and dont fly near flak/AAA
600 MPH? shooting taters? Best of luck to you. I hope you enjoy flying without wings :D
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: hubsonfire on March 15, 2005, 02:01:15 PM
Howi, here's a tip on improving your Kills/Hour... quit running away all the time, ya mook.












:p

cheers,
hub
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: Goth on March 15, 2005, 02:05:47 PM
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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Do you zoom in on them at all?  I'm using a 17" CRT right now and have no trouble at anything from 400 down getting a good view.  Even out to 600 I can still tell whats what.  At d800 the plane is only recognizable as a plane (i.e. I can see wings and fuselage and tail structure, but no details).  At 1.5k I can see enough to tell if it's turning or not lol.

I keep the Z key mapped to one of my stick buttons so I can flip it back and forth in a dog fight for better gunnery.  I found it doubled my hit%, and it saved me alot of greif not having to look down to the keyboard to find it when I needed it.


Yeah...I use zoom a lot which causes me to ram. Can't judge speed well in zoom.

I sure as heck hope you are using zoom at 1.5k out to see them turn, cause if not I am coming over and stealing your monitor.
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: Howitzer on March 15, 2005, 02:16:54 PM
Quote
Originally posted by hubsonfire
Howi, here's a tip on improving your Kills/Hour... quit running away all the time, ya mook.

:p

cheers,
hub



Lala dweeb!!!!!!!!!!  

:D
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: hubsonfire on March 15, 2005, 02:32:20 PM
You suh, have uffended my honuh. I demand satisfaction.

DA, now. I'll be there shortly.
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: john9001 on March 15, 2005, 02:39:54 PM
when you vulch  my out of ammo/fuel, shot up smoking plane just as i land, do you count that as one of your "kills"?
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: hubsonfire on March 15, 2005, 03:00:53 PM
YES.
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: SkyRock on March 15, 2005, 03:05:16 PM
Howitzer, I am into improving the overall as well.  I currently am at 3.2 k/sortie and 6 k/deaths while my hit is bout 11%.  I am trying to pick up K/Time as well but that involves getting real good at killing the guy on your 6.  I have been going to DA as much as possible to acquire different techniques on how to turn a enme 400d out on 6 to toast.  I have tried to learn from as many as possible but find that in MA u must pick the battle very carefully.  If you see one winding down dont up, you'll just end up flying around chasing ailerons amoung the horde, thus killing K/Time.  The cv battle someone mentioned is not bad idea, but best to pick battle with many enme and fly no higher than 6K or so.  If enme is higher than you, let them come down, evade/reverse and kill them as they attack.   I am just getting started at mastering my flying technique and I can use oll the help I get.  Also, it helps to fly with good fighters and watch what they do.  I recently joined a squad so that I may be in company of many great fighters but that didnt quite work out as I am an annoying person. (Then again I could have been just getting jerked around)      But I do suggest befriending people who know and learning from them.   Simply put, the skill to accomplish the feat must be in place, then picking the battles comes second.  I hope this reply wasnt to annoying.:cool:    P.S.  anytime you want go DA to work, just text me.  I usually game.
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: Howitzer on March 15, 2005, 03:14:19 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
when you vulch  my out of ammo/fuel, shot up smoking plane just as i land, do you count that as one of your "kills"?


Did I just shoot you on the runway, or did I try to make it entertaining by dropping a bomb or a laying a couple rockets on your smoking shell of a plane?  

No, wait... it doesn't matter, it counts either way  :lol  


SkyRock, glad to hear things are working out well for you.  Thanks for the DA offer, and I may take you up on it some night when I have more time to play  

Hub,

I 0wN j00!
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: OIO on March 15, 2005, 05:03:30 PM
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Originally posted by wetrat
600 MPH? shooting taters? Best of luck to you. I hope you enjoy flying without wings :D


600mph yes. Its a 262 and you will get lots of kills that way... yes with them quad 30mm taters.

I used to get the 262 up, fly to 15k and fly in and out of engagements always flying at 600mph... nothing short of another 262 can touch you...and even then the other 262 wont be able to speed up to catch you once you going 600mph.

The 262 is a slash attack plane.. you come in so damn fast the other guy has little time or no time to react, use just 2 of your 30mm's , blow his plane apart and fly on to the next one. never turn or zoom climb unless you're waaay in the clear of hostiles.
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: hubsonfire on March 15, 2005, 05:05:49 PM
OIO, what's your ingame ID?
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: wetrat on March 15, 2005, 05:53:48 PM
You won't land many 15+ kill single sorties in a jet buzzing around at 600mph. Anyways, enough about jets.. they're too easy.


Eventually you'll learn how little stats matter, and how tedious it is flying to get good stats. If you're a good stick, the stats will follow, regardless of what or where you fly. A lot of it has to do with being able to kill the guy on your 6. Kills/hr is probably the most arbitrary stat... it depends on the time of the day you fly, where you fly (in a giant horde of friendlies, vulching (loser!), or against a giant horde), and what you fly (you're gonna kill faster in a spit or 190a8 than a 109 w/ taters, usually). 10 kills/hr should be doable in most planes at most times of the day when you're not trying for stats.

My advice is to ignore your stats and fly around low in a jugg or 109 (something along those lines - no la7's) and get a handle of reversals and overshoots. After you get a handle on that, your stats will be more reflective of your ability than your effort put into getting them.
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: XrightyX on March 15, 2005, 06:05:53 PM
1.  By another computer.

2.  Open a 2nd account, don't make it obvious like Howitzer2 or anything.

3.  Play early in the morning when no one else is on.

4.  Vulch yourself silly
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: Stang on March 15, 2005, 09:48:58 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
when you vulch  my out of ammo/fuel, shot up smoking plane just as i land, do you count that as one of your "kills"?


Man busting toolsheds really can mess up your ride eh?

:p
Title: Kills per hour and per sortie
Post by: Stang on March 15, 2005, 09:49:51 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Callisto
Kill per sortie? :lol
Kills per hour? :lol



Fighter K/D ratio the only way to go.!!!

:p


Cherry picking timid runner

:p