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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Nash on March 15, 2005, 11:27:11 PM
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So tonight I decide I'm gonna try and cook something. I go to turn on the stove, and.... nothing.
The oven doesn't work either. But the lights, the fan, and the clock all work. The thing can't be older than a couple of years. And this thing did work fine, once... a ways back.
Busted fuse? Or is this god's way of telling me to back the hell away from the kitchen?
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Is it gas or electric?
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Uh.... how can ya tell?
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Oh wait.... duh... It's electric. Elements, not flame.
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You don't know if it's gas or electric?
Put your hands up and step away from the stove...slowly.
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God has spoken, step away..
:lol
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AFAIK, if a fuze pops the whole thing goes... no lights, no clock, nothing.
But... I've been on gas for the past 14 years so I'm probably mistaken.
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Oh, if it makes any difference, the little lights beside the dails that go on when you turn them don't go on. Just the oven light.
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Too weird. There's an outlet on the thing. I plug a vacuum cleaner in it and the vacuum cleaner works.
So basically, almost everything works except the things that actually produce heat. Yet all that stuff is electrical.
:confused:
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Get your government funded repairman
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Nash, it's probably got 2 circuits. 110 for the accessory side and 220 for the heating. Pull the stove out and look behind it for circuit breakers or fuses. There's also a couple pretty good online appliance repair guides. Fixitnow (http://fixitnow.com/) and Partselector (http://www.partselect.com/Repair.aspx?appliance=guide&part=repair)
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sounds like a job for queer eye.
;)
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Originally posted by rpm
Nash, it's probably got 2 circuits. 110 for the accessory side and 220 for the heating. Pull the stove out and look behind it for circuit breakers or fuses. There's also a pretty good online appliance repair guides.
lol, you guys are gonna get him killed
If you try looking at any connections or fuses...UNPLUG IT
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Originally posted by rpm
Nash, it's probably got 2 circuits. 110 for the accessory side and 220 for the heating. Pull the stove out and look behind it for circuit breakers or fuses. There's also a pretty good online appliance repair guides.
Okay, I pulled the oven out, and on the back is a baggy stuck to it... inside the baggy is (voila!) an 8.5"x11" electrical schematic. Problem is, it might as well be in Chinese.
There's a giant cord going into the back... but no fuses nor any opennings for fuses. The entire back is covered with one piece of sheet metal... which is being held in place by about 12 screws.
I have a leatherman with the right bit, but I think this is getting wildly beyond my pay grade.
I'll see what I can find out from google.
Oops, I didn't notice your links rpm. Thanks!
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Originally posted by Sixpence
lol, you guys are gonna get him killed
If you try looking at any connections or fuses...UNPLUG IT
Now ya tell me. :D
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The curcuit breakers are probably easy access. You might want to check your house breakers, too. You may have 2 110V breakers instead of a single 220V and one leg tripped.
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Nash just to be safe go ahead and call the firefighters and the ambulance right now.
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Naah, that's clear case. All You need is some holy water and an exorcist.
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don't take it apart.
goto the breaker box for your house and reset the tripped breaker or replace the blown fuze.
as it was mentioned before, the controls and accessory plug run on 110v but the heating elements are 220v (the 'big fat cord'). basically 220 is just 2 110 circuits running into the same appliance. you've probably just blown a fuze(or tripped a breaker) for one leg of the 220v power while the other one is fine and able to power the accessories.
the fuze/breaker is not in the stove, do not take it apart
I mean this in the nicest way possible, but it has to be said.
considering the questions you've asked and the schematic having left you with no clearer idea of the problem, I'd give you about 30:1 odds on taking apart that stove, getting it back together, and cooking one meal without involving at least one firetruck.
order take out.
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
order take out.
Probably the very BEST advice in this thread.
There's a Doner Kebab near you. Save yourself!
Too funny, Apathy... bullseye!
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Well I checked online, and there's a high degree of probability that I'll be able to find the fuse if I take off the back. But it's just way too late at night for that.
CaptApathy.... I located the home circuit breaker, I'm pretty sure. It's called a Westinghouse Guardomatic Load Center. It's got the switches, but I'll be damned if I can figure out where inside this thing the actual fuses are.
Again, it's just waaaay too late at night for this. I'm not even hungry anymore. I don't know how you guys do this crap.
I'll keep ya posted.
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it it has switches (breakers actually), those are instead of fuzes so stop looking for the fuzes.
look the switches over and see if one looks slightly out of position. a tripped breaker will be slightly out of the 'on' position. turn it off (this will reset it), then back on. then you should be good to go.
but, and this is important, shut down your computer first, and have a flashlight in your hand. if you switch the wrong breaker you could shut down the power to your PC (with the risks of power spikes, or other problems from power interruption) or the lights you are using to see the breaker-box, neither would improve your situation.
if the breaker won't reset, or blows again as soon as you try to use the stove, unplug the stove and call someone who can fix it.
BTW- when you said you pulled out the stove and found a baggie, I was a little concerned that this could turn into a relapse thread.
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Nash, seriously, stop before you get hurt or burn the house down.
Please. No kidding man, you dont seem to have much experience with eectricity and its prolly not the time to learn.
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Sometimes, if you lick them they will start to work again.
Like this:
(http://www.sprigly.com/images/lick_mach.jpg)
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Nash thank you, I now know I'm not the only one completely clueless about those things :)
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Originally posted by Nash
Uh.... how can ya tell?
Bwahhaaaahaaa. If that aint sig material I`ve never seen any. Totaly friggen, absolutely hilarious.
Reminds me of the "what`s that noise?" joke about the chainsaw. :rofl
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Originally posted by Nash
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CaptApathy.... I located the home circuit breaker, I'm pretty sure. It's called a Westinghouse Guardomatic Load Center. It's got the switches, but I'll be damned if I can figure out where inside this thing the actual fuses are.
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You are not gonna have fuses and circuit breakers.
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Originally posted by Nash
So tonight I decide I'm gonna try and cook something. I go to turn on the stove, and.... nothing.
The oven doesn't work either. But the lights, the fan, and the clock all work. The thing can't be older than a couple of years. And this thing did work fine, once... a ways back.
Busted fuse? Or is this god's way of telling me to back the hell away from the kitchen?
Has someone been playing with the auto timer, you can set some stoves to turn on their ovens at a certain time, on older models if it's set not much works......other than that...fuse.
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I just got off the phone with Skuzzy. He says you should reinstall the oven drivers.
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step 1. check circuit breakers or fuses at your electrical panel in the back closet behind your mound of unused stuff. if it is a circuit breaker the lever will be "tripped" and you can wiggle it easily if its a fuse you can look through the glass and see signs of it being burned. in either case compare by look and touch to the adjacent breakers or fuses and compare.
if it's not the circuit breaker call a professional and save yourself possible injury. remember that electrical shock has been known to cause people to become sensible. we here certainly don't want to lose any entertainment value so be safe, let a real man do that for you. :D
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Originally posted by Saintaw
Nash thank you, I now know I'm not the only one completely clueless about those things :)
lol...that makes 3 of us.
Call one of those guys who wear the belts with wires and tools and stuff sticking out of it. When they bend over you can see their ass-crack.
These fellows seem to know what to do.
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Originally posted by Rolex
I just got off the phone with Skuzzy. He says you should reinstall the oven drivers.
lmao
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I think its the thermostat, when they go, the oven won't heat.
Call a professional, you can't replace it and would die trying.
-SW
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Speaking of which, what would we do without nash?
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furious, ive been out of work for a year now.
Can you send her over?
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Nash call good old RED GREEN and Harold and the rest of the guys from the beaver lodge. If not go get your self a roll of duct take and try it your self.
The part about fuses and Circut breaks was the best. ^5 clueless!:lol
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The only thing that you would take off of the stove to make it work better is the eletrical cord....
Check house fuse and stuff...
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Usually stoves take up so much current that they're connected to 2- or 3-phase current. In order to be able to use all of the oven functions at the same time (and limiting current to reasonable levels while doing so) two or more phases are divided into sections of the apparatus.
It is then possible to have an oven that looks fully functional, but has nonfunctional parts just as Nash has.
The fuses or automatic circuit breakers are most likely in the central circuit breaker box of your house/appartment. Locate the blown/switched breakers and replace/turn back on.
Duh Storch basically said it already it seems.
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sheesh... does anyone here still have fuses?
canada is a little like the real world so... you will probly find that you tripped a circuit breaker. they are in a gray panel either in the garage or the closet or on an outside wall... inside the official looking gray panel you will find some black lightswitch looking thingies.... most will be in the up or on possition... the 220 circuit that controls your stove will either be in the down/off position or halfway down. move it all the way off then back on. It should be a positive click on.
if everything works but then stops and the breaker trips again... call an electrician.
lazs
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Due to the lack of posts by Nash, I think it's safe to assume he took someone's advice of messing with fuses or circuit breakers and has killed himself.
RIP Nash.
I still say it's the thermostat in the oven though.
-SW
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This thread is comedy gold.
How do you grow up and not learn the basics of breakers and stuff like that?
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
This thread is comedy gold.
How do you grow up and not learn the basics of breakers and stuff like that?
he is from canada after all. give him a break he's probably attempting to read the instructions in French. He may also find the stove has simply surrendered.
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I can believe none of you morons have yet advised Nash to check the heater fluid in the heater core chamber.
It takes two seconds to check and only about 50 cents in fluid.
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Originally posted by NUKE
I can believe none of you morons have yet advised Nash to check the heater fluid in the heater core chamber.
It takes two seconds to check and only about 50 cents in fluid.
you must be canadian as well eh?
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I can believe none of you morons have yet advised Nash to check the heater fluid in the heater core chamber.
It takes two seconds to check and only about 50 cents in fluid.
The dipstick -- not to mention the fill cap -- can be a ***** to find on the newer models especially if you don't know where to look. It's probably better he try some of the simpler stuff first before going that route.
Charon
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He may also find the stove has simply surrendered.
ZING!
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Originally posted by storch
he is from canada after all. give him a break he's probably attempting to read the instructions in French. He may also find the stove has simply surrendered.
ROFLMAO :rofl
I am still trying regain control after this gem.
Sandman Is it gas or electric?
Nash Uh.... how can ya tell?
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Originally posted by Nash
Uh.... how can ya tell?
LMFAO!!!!!!!!
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If Letterman doesn't pick up this thread he is missing pure gold.
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Originally posted by Rolex
I just got off the phone with Skuzzy. He says you should reinstall the oven drivers.
But that would take him at LEAST Two Weeks to finish!!!11111 :eek:
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OMG....I just got to reading this thread.
Nothing more can be said about it. :lol :lol :lol
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Electrically related story, got home from work and was sitting in a darkened room cursing the world in general when the overhead bulb flashed on then blew up. Think I'm getting telekinetic in my old age.
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Originally posted by Raubvogel
You don't know if it's gas or electric?
Put your hands up and step away from the stove...slowly.
LMAO!
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I didn't read all the replies so sorry if someone already said this...
Stoves are usually 220 volts and a lot of people like to wire them on their own breaker. Just like the dryer.
Find your breaker box and check for the breaker labeled stove or any tripped breakers.
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You guys wanna be dinks.....but Im thinking Nash Just needed to go downstairs...breath a few times.....and the stove woulda worked fine.
If not. Check the breaker..it will be a set of 2. If it is popped, there is a reason.
As a fellow recovering addict.............
Call someone and put down the screwdriver
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You guys are awesome...
I got home tonight and checked out the fuse box... or switch box. I did indeed see two switches that were connected. Tried toggling them... and then the rest of them but that didn't work. I got the back of the stove off (yes, I unplugged it first), looked at it.... and realized that I just couldn't deal with whatever was going on inside of it.
I'm having someone come and fix it instead.
But for all yer help, I am going to bake yas a nice lasagna or a short bread cake or whatever it is people do when their stoves work. :)
Cheers and thanks!
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Originally posted by Nash
You guys are awesome...
I got home tonight and checked out the fuse box... or switch box. I did indeed see two switches that were connected. Tried toggling them... and then the rest of them but that didn't work. I got the back of the stove off (yes, I unplugged it first), looked at it.... and realized that I just couldn't deal with whatever was going on inside of it.
I'm having someone come and fix it instead.
But for all yer help, I am going to bake yas a nice lasagna or a short bread cake or whatever it is people do when their stoves work. :)
Cheers and thanks!
WoooHooo!
Nash is going to live!
eskimo
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No really Nash.. you had best check the fluid level. Folks always seem to forget proper maintenance like that. If you have not found it yet remember to ask the repair guy when he comes. I bet he can show you where it is so you can check it in the future. There are some things like that you can do yourself, especially if you know where to look.
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Okay folks, it's back on!
rabbidrabbit... yer post got me to dig around the back for a part number to check out this fluid thing.
AND I FOUND THE FUSE!
It was.... (how to explain?).... Ya know the part that juts up from the main part, that has all the dials and clock on it? Well, I spotted the fuse through a crack in the back of it. You just flip the top open; you don't even need to pull the oven out you can do it from the front! Ya don't need to unscrew anything. (d'oh!)
Bad news is... it looked fine.
I didn't find a part number, but I did see a large warning to not do something that I already did when taking the back off. :D Ah well live and learn.
So the only thing I can tell ya at the moment is... the oven is newish, it is made by GE, and it is white.
Any idea where to find the oven's dipstick would be appreciated.
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So, it still doesn't cook food huh?
Get a professional, you'll be here for 3 weeks to find nothing while they'll be there for 30 minutes and find the fix.
-SW
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No... It still doesn't work.
And it doesn't so much matter if it actually did take me 30 days to fix. It hasn't been used in 10 times that many days.
I might as well try and figure this out. Seems like you all know how to work it, and I reckon I can only be just slightly more retarded than you.
I got a fighting chance with this thing. And it's become personal.
I need to locate the dipstick.
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The dipstick is in your professional repairman's ass. Now you know, go find it.
Anything else anyone tells you is worthless.
And I hate you, because I don't think there is any stove.
-SW
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Originally posted by storch
he is from canada after all. give him a break he's probably attempting to read the instructions in French. He may also find the stove has simply surrendered.
:lol :rofl
lmfao
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
The dipstick is in your professional repairman's ass. Now you know, go find it.
Anything else anyone tells you is worthless.
And I hate you, because I don't think there is any stove.
-SW
And I think you are Hortlund, posing as OWA. When did we become so cynical? Oh yeah... when we found teh internets.
Here's some incentive....
Tell me where the dipstick is, by 5 pm prairie time (or whatever), and I'll bring home a digital camera and document the entire reviving of my stove.
(and if you're the 5th caller, I'll leave a note for the paramedics to document the reviving of my person). :D
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Go to Checksix right quick.
-SW
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If its got a big door on the front try throwing some wood and lightiing it, that usually works well.
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aye aye!
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>>sheesh... does anyone here still have fuses? <<
Er most apliances do - just when you're about to throw out that microwave or tv that won't come on - take off the back and you should find a skinny glass fuse right by the power cord and before the transformer (or whatever they call it now). Check it before you throw out the microwave.
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Damn straight you tell them Tweety!
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In America, it will have a volt and amp number - dunno what yall use in Canada :D
Anyway, replace that before you do anything expensive. Just bring the fuse to the apliance dealer/electric store and they'll get you the right one.
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
>>sheesh... does anyone here still have fuses? <<
Er most apliances do - just when you're about to throw out that microwave or tv that won't come on - take off the back and you should find a skinny glass fuse right by the power cord and before the transformer (or whatever they call it now). Check it before you throw out the microwave.
Tweety, first of all ya need to know if it is a gas or electric microwave. :rofl
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here's the basics for appliance repair. you'll pick up more knowledge as you go along (learning from mistakes) but this should get you going.
when you're not sure whats wrong, you can't afford a repairman, you can't do without the appliance, and the 'magic smoke theory'** has let you down, start out by replacing all parts (in the order of cheapest to most expensive, testing to see if it works after each one) until it works.
** for those novices who don't know the magic smoke theory
the magic smoke theory states that-
all electrical apparatus require magic smoke to operate. when an appliance stops working, open it up and look over the circuits. often, when the magic smoke leaves a part, it stains the surrounding parts and melts or disfigures the part it escaped from. locate and replace the part that has lost it's smoke with a new one (that comes with a full charge of smoke) and it usually fixes the appliance.
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Just use the grill.....or a Dutch Oven.....or the fireplace, that's three choices, have at it:aok
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Originally posted by NUKE
I can believe none of you morons have yet advised Nash to check the heater fluid in the heater core chamber.
It takes two seconds to check and only about 50 cents in fluid.
I've got to disagree with that. I'm convinced that it's the bubalator valve.
It should be easy to locate on that schematic ya found Nash.
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Originally posted by Vulcan
If its got a big door on the front try throwing some wood and lightiing it, that usually works well.
Crap you made me blow a booger onto my monitor with that remark. Now I have to stare at a chunky green and yellow blob now
Oh about the stove, a hammer usually fixes anything. If you whack it enough, something always happens
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I think we missed the opportunity to explain the " wet finger in the plugin" test. :D
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Originally posted by Raubvogel
You don't know if it's gas or electric?
Put your hands up and step away from the stove...slowly.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :aok
I just busted out laughing in my office!!!