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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Pongo on March 16, 2005, 02:01:54 AM
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so long. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7203944/)
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Buh bye now. Thanks for playing the Civilization game.
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take along some of that SPF 2000 for your time in hell LOL.
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Originally posted by wombatt
take along some of that SPF 2000 for your time in hell LOL.
Time for Seagoon to weigh in... Can a convicted murderer get into heaven?
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if he donates his body to science....
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sandman
of course
in God's eyes all sins are equal, none worse or better than the other.
in God's eyes, if i have thought lustfully about another man's wife i am as sinful and evil as a man who strangled a child.
taking blame, and truly repenting for your sins is what God asks.
getting into heaven:
all He asks in to believe in the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, that he was true God and true man, he died on the cross, and rose again, attoning for all our sins.
if you truly believe that you will get into heaven.
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wow so i can truly believe, go around killing people and ill still get into heaven?
man, ive been living the wrong way!
:rolleyes:
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I dont know?
But one would assume that If you killed some one for no reason IE: in defense of ones life that you would bypass heaven for hell.
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what's worse murder or lying?
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Murder. Unless your lies lead to the needless deaths of thousands.
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Originally posted by OIO
wow so i can truly believe, go around killing people and ill still get into heaven?
man, ive been living the wrong way!
:rolleyes:
Kinda hard (IMO) to be feeling a true desire to change and be forgiven for what you've done if you have no intention of changing. The point is that even the worst sinner, if he truly wants it, can receive forgivness and enter into Heaven.
Mocking the truth doesn't change it.
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According to 70% or something of the priests here, the hell doesn't exist. So everyone goes automatically to heaven.
A goverment funded church is a great thing as it constantly adapts itself to public opinion.:)
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Its all full of ****, it is tosses away the values the religion is based on.
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"His last meal consisted of a T-bone steak, shrimps, french fries, a milkshake and a salad with ranch dressing"
If this gets out to third world countries we could have a problem on our hands
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Heh....why build all these churches when these guys keep "finding" God/Jesus/etc in prison?
:p
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Originally posted by Pongo
Murder. Unless your lies lead to the needless deaths of thousands.
What if I said that a lie is equal to murder?
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Originally posted by storch
What if I said that a lie is equal to murder?
I would say you just killed someone.
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Originally posted by OIO
wow so i can truly believe, go around killing people and ill still get into heaven?
man, ive been living the wrong way!
:rolleyes:
Yes but think of all the laundry.
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Originally posted by Thrawn
I would say you just killed someone.
had I lied you would be exactly right.
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A rubber ball is equal to Tuesday.
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Since your still typing I gather you dont count exaguration as a lie
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Originally posted by Pongo
Murder. Unless your lies lead to the needless deaths of thousands.
Now here we see a classic example of a poorly disquised troll
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Originally posted by Pongo
Since your still typing I gather you dont count exaguration as a lie
looks like some one did well in spelling.
his trolling isn't very good either.
thrawn says you are equal to a rubber ball. I think you are both equal to a blivot.
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What pongo is trying to say is:
Bush Lied - Thousands Died
Correctamundo?
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Cant you clowns read anything and not think its a slight on your fuhrer?
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Here, have a baloon, Mr. Grumpy...
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Well waddayaknow
Pongo caught one:lol
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Well waddayaknow
Pongo caught one:lol
he has to toss it back. it's too weenie. :D
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How many mentaly retarded people construct 34 word sentences?
"“My statement to the Wood family is to let them know how truly and sincerely sorry I am for being involved with what I was and I’d like them to know that I’m sorry. Signed, sincerely sorry, Stanley Hall.”"
Sorry- that statement is not written by someone mentally retarded - no way no how.
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Time for Seagoon to weigh in... Can a convicted murderer get into heaven?
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Hi Sandman,
Sorry for the delay in answering, I've been away at a conference all week. You ask an interesting question, so I'll attempt to give a simple biblical answer, and as such I accept from the get-go that it won't satisfy the "all religion is a load of [expletive deleted]" bloc but so be it...
Did the Apostle Paul get into heaven? He was after all a self-confessed accomplice to the murder of Stephen (Acts 7:58, Acts 22:20). Did David get into heaven? He too confessed to the betrayal and murder of his faithful servant Uriah (2 Sam. 12:13) and yet the bible is full of testimonies to the fact that both of these men were ultimately saved. Why? Because they repented of these sins, and believed in promise of the Lord to purge them of the guilt of their iniquities through a redeemer (Isaiah 53). Their repentance was not merely an empty profession (as would be the case if they continued to murder as one poster suggested) but they showed by their actions that their hearts had been changed by the work of the Lord. That is why David could write afterwards in some of the most beautiful lines ever penned:
"Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean; Wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow. Make me hear joy and gladness, That the bones You have broken may rejoice. Hide Your face from my sins, And blot out all my iniquities. Create in me a clean heart, O God, And renew a steadfast spirit within me. Do not cast me away from Your presence, And do not take Your Holy Spirit from me. Restore to me the joy of Your salvation, And uphold me by Your generous Spirit. Then I will teach transgressors Your ways, And sinners shall be converted to You. Deliver me from the guilt of bloodshed, O God, The God of my salvation, And my tongue shall sing aloud of Your righteousness. O Lord, open my lips, And my mouth shall show forth Your praise. For You do not desire sacrifice, or else I would give it; You do not delight in burnt offering. The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit, A broken and a contrite heart -- These, O God, You will not despise." (Psalm 51:7-17)
Our problem in looking at issues like whether one sin or another is "to great to be forgiven" is that we forget that to break one part of God's law is to be guilty of breaking all of it (James 2:10-11), and that every sin being "cosmic treason" against a just and holy creator deserves death in the eternal (though not civil judicial) sense. Therefore if any of us are to be forgiven for any sin and get into heaven, it isn't going to be on the basis of our own works or repentance. What could we do to blot out our own guilt after all? That is why it was necessary for God to create an atonement for sin in our place, sacrificing his own Son to pay for the sins of "whoever believes in him" (John 3:16) and to give to us his own righteousness (Romans 3:21-26) in place of our own filthy rags and a new heart that strives to obey him (Ezek. 11:19-20) in place of our old hard heart.
So simply put, while there is no sin so small that in the justice of God it can be overlooked, there is no sin so great that the mercy of God is not greater still.
Anywho, I've included the scripture references in order that whether or not you believe the gospel, you'll at least know that I'm not making this up as I go along. ;)
Hoping you and yours are well and that you have a good Sunday I remain....
- SEAGOON
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My problem with Christianity is thus: A fellow who does good works his entire life and never hurts a single creature of God, yet cannot find faith in his last moments, is condemed to eternal hell..... whereas a monster who rapes and murders women and children manages to find a moment just before death to accept jesus and gets into heaven.
Thats just plain ****ed up and represents a belief I am not interested in supporting.
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Chuck, you may move fast, but you're not smarter than G-d....go with it on faith
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Human civilization still isnt advanced enough for people (such as the woman killed) to not protect themselves.
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