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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: StarOfAfrica2 on March 17, 2005, 04:34:14 PM
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Talk about bragging rights..............
Check out the one in NY. :D
http://www.missilebases.com/
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until those commies launch the attack, and using out-dated information the directly hit your "home"
: )
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I read a great story where a guy built his house in a silo. He drilled mounts in the walls of the launch silo and ran steel I-beams across to make floors. He was doing some arc welding at the top when some ex-soviet early warning satellites picked up the heat bloom, correlated it with their database of launch sites, and flagged it as a possible missile launch. Fiction, but a fun read.
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See now subterrainian housing should be the way to go for those living in tornadoe prone areas.
Im surprised people dont do that for that reason alone.
Then again I cant figure out why people living near the flood prone areas alongside the Mississippi river havent figured out that they wouldnt loose EVERYTHING every few years if they just built their houses on stilts.
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Too erie. I bet I'd have nightmares about zombies chasing me around the tunnels.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
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Then again I cant figure out why people living near the flood prone areas alongside the Mississippi river havent figured out that they wouldnt loose EVERYTHING every few years if they just built their houses on stilts.
whats wrong with your insurance company building you a new house every couple years?
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Originally posted by john9001
whats wrong with your insurance company building you a new house every couple years?
after the 1st new one built with insurance $$$.
the insurance premium will skyrocket through the roof.
after the 2nd one they had to pay to build, they'll most likely drop your coverage.
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This is pretty much my idea of the ultimate house. John Travolta's spread at Jumbolaire Airpark in Florida. Right now it sucks getting wet when I'm disembarking from my 707.
(http://www.pcspray.com/pics/Travolta House.jpg)
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http://www.silohome.com/index.htm
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Nice! I liked the Titan-1 site outside Denver. Could house half the extended family at that one (but only the half I like:)). The one with the runway also sounded way cool.
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I've wanted an underground home for years. I mentioned it to my wife, and she nodded, but didn't really say anything. I figured she was just humoring me, as spouses often do when their SO says something crazy.
Fast forward a few months, we're driving to Oregon from California as we did on occasion. We're out in the middle of nowhere when my wife, who's looking out the window, gets my attention and points out the intermodal shipping containers stacked up at some place. "Honey," she says, "we could probably buy those used, reinforce them, and bury them for less then we'd pay to build an underground home from scratch. We could put them side by side, or in some pattern, and get all the living space we need. What do you think?"
Lords of Kobol, I love that woman.
When we were last buying property, she was also looking for places outside of city limits that we could use for our underground home in the future. We almost bought a plot outside Springfield, OR that we would finance by moving her parents home there from the park its in and having them cover the mortgage (cheaper then the park rates), but we ended up passing on the deal. We're still looking, but it's a long term plan. I've done some load calculations, and it wouldn't be easy (dirt is heavy), but the basic idea is to buy the extended height shipping containers, (40'x8.5'x9' if I recall) which sell for between $2-3K each (probably less if I had the money in hand and really pounded the pavement, ready to buy, this was just after a brief internet search to see the basic range) and lay them out in a cruciform/plus shape, two aside, with an open area in the middle. We'd dig the hole about 15 feet deep, pour gravel or other appropriate drainage (I'd get someone smarter then me to ok the plan, survey the property) reinforce the containers as needed (under the advice of a mechanical engineer), then coat them with tar and plastic and bury them. Cement pillars in the center, with poured concrete retaining walls to make the center area strong, and have it extend up to the ground level. Atop that, put in a steel frame, put a floor on it, and put one of those miniature houses (that 15' x 15' or therabouts) that you occasionally see as Espresso booths, except modeled to look exactly like a tiny tiny 0 room cottage) and then lay out a lawn over the whole dig with a path going up to the mini house. Open the door, and it's a ramp going to the living area.
Use fiberoptic light pipes for the central area, and have a tree planted in the middle.
Each of the 'arms' of the house would have a 3' corrugated culver pipe (the kind you see providing drainage under roads) with a floor going from one arm to the next for ventilation, and partway down one or more of them I'd put in an intersection tunnel that goes out a few hundred feet to an escape hatch, which is maybe disguised by a bush and out of sight of the house.
That's the Mark I home fantasy. Before we'd do it, we'd do another price comparison to see if we can get what we want with poured concrete barriers instead, or whatever else is available.
Anyhow, my wife supports the idea, and it's on our 'eventually' list.
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Chairboy,
Used Seatainers will not survive being buried underground in ANY soil that has a moisture content. No matter how ofter we coat ours, we are constantly having to patch holes, (cutting out rust spots) and these are stored in a fairly arid area above ground!
My suggestions are poured in place concrete. Be careful on issues such as moisture and ventilation, as any place humans live in that is limited in moisture is bound to support mold.
Best of luck though on building a subterranean home. I hope it works!
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Yeah, I'm worried about moisture/rust too. I was thinking that maybe if I really coated 'em with tar and plastic sheeting, like thick, it'd do, plus pour gravel along the sides... but your gut feel is that it wouldn't prevent rust?
Hmm... Well, the poured cement walls or prefab cement sheets is another idea. Build it, then run maybe steel i-beams across the top or put in prefab concrete/rebar sheets across the top for ceiling?
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Actually mold would be your biggest concern. It can develop to wet areas in a few weeks time. You wouldn't notice anything wrong, in some cases maybe a slight moldy scent in the air. After being exposed to the substances from molding, your family will start developing flus, allergies, weird skin symptoms, ventilatory diseases and other (chronic mind you) diseases.
It's something you must take very seriously. If you want the structures to remain in good condition, you must build your underground parts in a way which will guide all water out of the structure. This means building gravel pits around it with underground piping to remove rainwater and other possible humidity from the site. Also the indoor areas must be extremely well ventilated and under no circumstances can there be areas where warm air is in contact with cool surfaces (such as uninsulated earth.)
So you need a good insulation all over the building, good protection for surface waters and a good ventilation. = Expensive.
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The silo home idea is very cool in a halflife/lukeskywalkerhome idea, but id prefer living up in the light. Maybe i would use it to store stuff, but I would not wanna live there. My current house has a ton of windows and i built it that way and on that location for a reason. Moisture and mold is another big issue unless you wanna run a huge AC system all the time.
One week in an underground radar station back in the mid 90's was cool at the time but I think I would miss the sun if i had to live there.
If you do decide to build some underground stuff Chairboy then make sure to also make an online log with pictures and details. That would be a cool project to follow. :)
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Definately, will do.
We were thinking the way to make it work psychologically would be to have a bunch of full spectrum lights throughout the home. That, and piping in sunlight to the central open area, would do a lot to make it nice.
I like sunlight too, but a wood house atop the ground feels awful vulnerable. Whether it's an uninvited knocking down a door or a hole in the wall or if it's something else, like atomics, the idea of being able to have my back to a wall that I know nobody will come through is nice.
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You can buy the aluminum containers for about the same price as the steel ones.
I would like to get 4 or five of em and bury em end to end for an underground shooting range.
lazs
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http://www.world-science.net/othernews/050310_suntubefrm.htm
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Last year they busted a grow-op in BC that was housed in several connected shipping containers that were buried underground.
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Hey chairboy, my brother is planning on building a concrete house this summer. You buy the forms and pour the concrete. Pretty cheap to build.
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Dirt is a crappy insulator, why exactly do you want to be underground?
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Isn't there a little town in the USA where u can only get with a plane . Everybody has a hangar instead of a garage.
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Originally posted by Lizking
Dirt is a crappy insulator, why exactly do you want to be underground?
How do you figure? Down a few feet, and it's essentially a constant temperature, year 'round.
Also, it's not just about insulation, it's also about security.
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I would like one of those silo homes, just for the coolness factor.
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I can give you 3' worth of dirt insulation in one inch, and you won't have to worry about rot, water overload and mold. If you just want to live underground, that is fine, but don't do it for the insulation factor. That said, there is a thermal mass to dirt, which I assume is what you are talking about.