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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: bullz on March 17, 2005, 04:56:45 PM
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first off a20 has a big advantage to the 110 a20 can byfar turn harder thus avoiding massave guns on 110 most 110 pilotsa are unaware of flatspin if u get it in to hard of a turn at to low of a speed ..ur up a creek w/o a paddle ..most times i wing up with squad in 110 a20's turning and 110's speed and guns its a very forcefull combination .. 110 is a little bit more unstable but its a good fight mostly up to the pilots and how well they know the plane..... btw for u MA'ers that donot know ..aslong as u have 1k between you and the ground u can recover from 110 flatspin simple turn engine's off and drop your gear as soon as your nose drops ..engine's on and gear up =)
KISS MY HAVOC
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Does your brain process thoughts in sentence fragments or do you translate paragraphs into fragments between your brain and vocal chords for greater speaking efficiency?
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I think it's the A.D.D. talking Golfer...
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Dude, anyone with a brain knows a simple roll with a little rudder can keep all planes out of the 110's cone of fire, all the time while they are scoreing hits on wingtips engines and tail fins, please.
Im willing to bet a a20 could rip the crap out of a 110, in any situation.
Yeah the 110's got guns, simple..stay outa' the 110's cone of fire. and get a easy kill..low is the best place to be if being attacked or attacking a 110
Hiting up a 110 from the side is easy, and just tears the crap out of stuff, most bombers are thick, giveing more spaceing for vital parts and such, a 110 is slim, so the rounds go thru hit vital things.Granted the slim hull everythings more clumped,easy to hit.
If you go from a 110's nose to tail,"even in a fm2 with only x4 .50's" in a side shot, you will knock out half his guns, hit/kill the pilot tear thru at least one of the engines with its placeing, kill the rear gunner, and shread off at least one of the 110's rudders. :aok
i just said 110 10 times, AAAAAAAAh
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Golfer if I sat here and corrected everything I say I would have no spare time I just type if it comes out wrong or I overlook something I just leave it ..im careless ..u got a prob u can
kiss_my_havoc worry bout your own typeing rahhhhhhhh rahhhhhhh imsorrie offcicer i judst cnnott spwelll im dnot dunk im dust stooooooooopd:eek:...P.S bad karma I agree on everything you have said.... But one of them ..not sure which maby 11 or 44 one of the jb's is amazing in 110 ..I might say watch out for him lol
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When Mn7 is in that 110 u have a problem.
:)
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No, the 110 is better then the A20 in every category except main body armor.
But you can't base how good the 110 is off of people you see in the MA. Most people who use the 110 use it ONLY to take down a CV or take down a town. A fight on the way just happens.
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lol laser u have alot to learn..want to test your little theory???:lol
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Originally posted by bullz
lol laser u have alot to learn..want to test your little theory???:lol
I'll test that theory with ya bullz, I view it as to who the better pilot is when these 2 planes meet 1 on 1.
btw which 110 are you refering to the hvy gunned 110 or the weaker one? I would think though the 110 would climb out on the A20 any time it wanted to......what do you think?
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The 110 is about one thing, geting the nose into fireing position long enough to make a few 20mm and 30mm hit, otherwise it is useless cannon fodder, anyone in a a20 can take one out by aiming for wing tips, or the tail boom.
never the nose, or main wing struts, takes to long to snap em off with only 6 .50's.
Also 110's dive like crap,so if ones comeing head on, dive quick,snap back, and cut the SOB's tail off,simple and very..very.....very effective.
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Umm, no. The A20 rips it's wings off way before a 110 compresses, so your dive means nothing. Plus the 110 can out maneuver the A20 anyday.
Like I said, the 110 can almost keep up with a 38L in a fight. You just have to know how to keep it from snap stalling, just like a 38L.
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Any of the twin engine fighters will relatively easily defeat an A-20G. The P-38 will do it markedly easier, but the Bf110G-2 or Mosquito Mk VI both have a heavy air-to-air advantage over it as well.
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Originally posted by Karnak
Any of the twin engine fighters will relatively easily defeat an A-20G. The P-38 will do it markedly easier, but the Bf110G-2 or Mosquito Mk VI both have a heavy air-to-air advantage over it as well.
you guys have alot to learn a20 will outturn mossy and 110 ..still have alot to learn ..and i was talking to laser about testing his theroy ..**** we can fight @ 20 k and see who will win 110 over 425 mph handels like chit..yes its true a20's wing will rip off so will its alierons but if you fly the a20 often ..a semi-decent pilot you fill find the do''s and donts of a20's bet u i can dive right along with ur lil 110 and turn n brun right along with it ..u talk alot laser lets see what u can really do .... give me a date and a time ill be there with my sorry a20 :lol bring it brotha!!!!! oo aND BTW
kiss_my_havoc
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Al fights aren't turn fights...even 1 vs 1.
A Mossie will simply play to it's strengths to beat the A20. Now granted this may not be a turn fight and it may be a lengthy fight. The real test is probably which guy makes a mistake first, that mistake being NOT flying to his planes strengths. Give me a plane faster than my opponent and I will dictate the fight.
And of course there's the obligatory "if both pilots are of equal skill".
The A20 is deadly against anyone not familiar with it, but those that are don't stall fight it in a Mossie.
Magoo
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My bellybutton the A20 turns tighter then the 110.
I've spent a lot of time in both, even as pure fighters. So I'm not as ignorant as you think.
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Originally posted by Magoo
me a plane faster than my opponent and I will dictate the fight.
Exactly. The Bf110G-2 and Mosquito climb better, accelerate better and are faster than the A-20G. The A-20G may buy itself some time turning, though this has never been my experience, but in the end a Bf110G-2 or Mosquito flown to their strengths will easily defeat an A-20G.
I've always found that the A-20G was an easy kill and the only times I have been forced to miss my shot by one is when I was going grossly faster than the A-20G. If my speed is, say 50mph greater, it is an easy shot and the cannons on either the Bf110G-2 or Mosquito rip the A-20G apart in one burst.
Its great that you really like the aircraft you've chosen, but don't let that distort its relative cababilities in your mind.
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Let's all meet in the DA this evening and kick the crap out of each other:D
That ought to sort this out ;)
Magoo
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A20 is fodder, plain and simple. The only planes it can out-manuever are other bombers.
A20 vs 110 is not even a contest.
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I'll be up for that in a mossie.:) A20's are yummy.
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Originally posted by Magoo
Let's all meet in the DA this evening and kick the crap out of each other:D
That ought to sort this out ;)
Magoo
What time? I get home about 5:30 PST.
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Originally posted by Magoo
Let's all meet in the DA this evening and kick the crap out of each other:D
That ought to sort this out ;)
Magoo
What time? I get home about 5:30 PST.
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Karnak, I'll be much later than that. More like 9PM EST. I'll peek in the DA for you fellows on my way in.
Magoo
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No, the A20 is not fodder. It's much like the P40. 9/10 times the person flying the P40 is in there because he's really good at it.
But The same A20 is screwed if the enemy pilot has half of a brain.
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LMAO - Karnak, I just saw where you said Pacific time, which is 8:30 EST...
Magoo
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
No, the A20 is not fodder. It's much like the P40. 9/10 times the person flying the P40 is in there because he's really good at it.
But The same A20 is screwed if the enemy pilot has half of a brain.
Good point here. I enjoy flying the ol P40E( not saying I'm really good at it:)) from time to time. Normally just on the deck, not expecting to live, but just having some fun. I can tell you, if ya run into a spit(or any "dogfighter" type aircraft) pilot who knows basic air manuevers, it can be a tough fight. Now you get a guy who knows a little more than the flat turn of death, 7 outta 10 times, your back in the tower. In the same aircraft he's toast, but against a P40 that is outclassed in almost everything, he wins.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
No, the A20 is not fodder. It's much like the P40. 9/10 times the person flying the P40 is in there because he's really good at it.
But The same A20 is screwed if the enemy pilot has half of a brain.
Good point here. I enjoy flying the ol P40E( not saying I'm erally good at it:)) from time to time. Normally just on the deck, not expecting to live, but just having some fun. I can tell you, if ya run into a spit(or any "dogfighter" type aircraft) pilot who knows basic air manuevers, it can be a tough fight. Now you get a guy who knows a little more than the flat turn of death, 7 outta 10 times, your back in the tower. In the same aircraft he's toast, but against a P40 that is outclassed in almost everything, he wins.