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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: BALSUR on March 17, 2005, 07:12:06 PM
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What is the problem with the gv mode? Is it ever going to get fixed? I have film of a tiger getting hit by 3 - 4000 lb bombs. Earlier i drove up to a tiger when i was in a tiger and hit him square in the side and he kills me when my front was facing him. I lost 7 tigers today, 5 were to 1 shot. 3 of those 5 came from panzers. 1 of the tiger kills was over 4k away. Come on! This is obsurd. I 've noticed the team with the lower number of players seem to have "better luck" with this. Is there some kind of eny trickery going on that noone knows about? All I know is no way, no how is the gv mode remotely equal in this game. Please respond and tell me if your even going to look into this or I just have to deal with it because thats the way it is.
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GV's are a sideshow. Learn this truth, laminate it and put it in your wallet.
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What do the words "ACES HIGH" mean to you Balsur.
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The bread and butter of Aces High is Air Combat...that’s where the vast majority play. GVs are an afterthought to give the game a little more variety ..nothing more. If its ground combat you’re looking for, go play battlefield 1942. It’s an excellent game...and it can be had for 30 bucks with all the expansions....large games are always going on the internet for free.
I’m sure that issues with air combat and planes are always going to be higher on the list just because 99% of the people who play are here to fly not drive.
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You guys who complain about GV's now must not remember or not have been around for the GV's 3 years back or so...
You've got nothing to b1tch about. They've come along as far in development as any other part of this game. You just dont have a case.
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Someone needs to introduce the "white rocks" bug just for him for about a week.
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whatever, I was looking for an answer from Hitech or Skuzzy. Not a bunch of people who seem they need to shed their light on every subject.
BTW: check the stats more people are killed with a panzer than anything else in this game. So, come down off your perch if you can and acknowledge that this is a war simulator and as for "Aces High" most tank commanders were also known as "Aces".
ALso, I have been around this game for quite awhile.
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Tanks aren't just about total damage. I.E. After 150 points of total damage, a Tiger will explode.
Tanks, just like airplanes, have vulnerable spots that you need to aim for.
A Panzer can easily take a tiger if it hits the right spot. But until it does, it'll keep bouncing shots.
Think of it like the 8 .303 Hurricane. Spray 200 bullets completely across the enemy. What will happen? Nothing. Spray 200 bullets on an isolated spot or into the cockpit. What will happen then?
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Originally posted by BALSUR
whatever, I was looking for an answer from Hitech or Skuzzy. Not a bunch of people who seem they need to shed their light on every subject.
BTW: check the stats more people are killed with a panzer than anything else in this game. So, come down off your perch if you can and acknowledge that this is a war simulator and as for "Aces High" most tank commanders were also known as "Aces".
ALso, I have been around this game for quite awhile.
Sorry balsur, but you posted on an open forum. If you want to talk to those two in private, how about you send them an email?
Doesn't matter what tank commanders were called in WWII.. they are trying to tell you this is primarily a flight sim and not a fully realistic WWII environment.
Good luck in getting the answer you want BTW, I believe you are post # 387 on this particular subject. Maybe you want to take up a "newer" cause.... possibly jump on the puffy ack bandwagon :D
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Not much BS for me, tigers die pretty nice to my 1K bombs.
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Originally posted by Blue Mako
GV's are a sideshow. Learn this truth, laminate it and put it in your wallet.
GVS attack can capture any base in les then 10 minutes.
so who can say its a sideshow?
i am playing this game for 2 years and my main goal was the Air combat theater.
Time passed and i learened that you cant ignore gvs blitz attack.
So i started to be a GV guy .... and give a hell of a fight.
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Originally posted by RedDg
Someone needs to introduce the "white rocks" bug just for him for about a week.
Oh god no.
HTC we love you. :aok
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I will also state that the people who use "aces high is ONLY for FLIGHT ACES"
yes, this is true to some point, however looking at the backdrop and main page, you see what?
some planes, some tanks and even a boat.
aces high is just a name, so you should not use that to say screw vehicals, only planes and pilots are important.
even tho Gv's can blow me.
just being Captian Obvious. never mind me.
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Originally posted by RedDg
Someone needs to introduce the "white rocks" bug just for him for about a week.
Those weren`t rocks. Those were camoed land mines put in place by pixelated, guerrila, ninja warriors. :D
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My personal opinnion is that GV's are just fine as they are. But when they take away from the gameplay of the aircombat side (such as milkrunning fields in tanks, camping osties at vulch positions etc.) They suck major time.
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GVS have coem a FARRRRR way from where they had been..FACT
yes white rocks..that is too funny..i already forgot about thsoe land mines
shut ur whoel u tonka toy twits..they improve with each new AH version...
sheesh
a bit more cry fires with that whaaaaburger?
hehehe?..
did soemone lose a tiger last night?
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Originally posted by BALSUR
whatever, I was looking for an answer from Hitech or Skuzzy. Not a bunch of people who seem they need to shed their light on every subject.
If that were the case, you would have sent an email.
-Sik
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Originally posted by BALSUR
BTW: check the stats more people are killed with a panzer than anything else in this game. So, come down off your perch if you can and acknowledge that this is a war simulator and as for "Aces High" most tank commanders were also known as "Aces".
well this may be true, i wonder what the stats would say if there were only 5 or so fighters and 5 gvs. those stats are biased to the Panzer, because there is lack of choice. there is a wide range of planes, small range of gvs. if 80% of the population flew a spit V (when they fly-realizing some people do both), then i wonder what would kill more people. also you have to factor in spawn camping. i see plenty of people land anywhere from 20-50 kills in GV's, when was last time you saw someone land 50 kills in a plane?
did HTC intend this to be a war simulator, or a flight sim? make what you want of it, but to me it is a good flight sim, but at least at the moment a medicore at best war simulator.
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Originally posted by GreenCloud
shut ur whoel u tonka toy twits..they improve with each new AH version...
sheesh
a bit more cry fires with that whaaaaburger?
:rofl BGBMAW is my hero.
Noone rivals on turning a phrase. :D
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
My personal opinnion is that GV's are just fine as they are. But when they take away from the gameplay of the aircombat side (such as milkrunning fields in tanks, camping osties at vulch positions etc.) They suck major time.
Oh, yeah...
Heaven Forfend that someone should attack a field from an adjacent field (after all, that's where tanks spawn from, you know). Perhaps tankers should be required to ONLY attack bases that are already under attack (chosen if you will) by the ubermensch Knights of the Air.
And antiaircraft artillery fire should NEVER be positioned for any tactical reason, such as shooting down aircraft attacking a base. That would be wrong, somehow...Osties and M-16s should stay near the VH, where they can be conveniently disposed of from 15000 feet by a bomber formation.
GIMME A BREAK!
Now, as to the Tiger whine...Get Over It. That's the model. And, until HTC tells us exactly how it works, we need to point out what we feel are problems, in the BUG forum, and see what can be done.
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
My personal opinnion is that GV's are just fine as they are. But when they take away from the gameplay of the aircombat side (such as milkrunning fields in tanks, camping osties at vulch positions etc.) They suck major time.
So....you are playing the game? Under what ID? :D
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rshubert that was and is my opinnion on the subject like it or not. To me the GV play was often a complete killjoy in an otherwise good aerial combat.
Countless times the enemy dives to the helping hands of an ostie or other 1-ping wonder gv when he loses the edge.
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Originally posted by Morpheus
You guys who complain about GV's now must not remember or not have been around for the GV's 3 years back or so...
You've got nothing to b1tch about. They've come along as far in development as any other part of this game. You just dont have a case.
I second that Morpheus. I don't miss the desert storm days with nothing to hide under and very little to hide behind.
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Originally posted by BALSUR
Earlier i drove up to a tiger when i was in a tiger and hit him square in the side and he kills me when my front was facing him.
He must have hit you right in the driver's view port - If they hit you in the correct spot there - nighty night.
I lost 7 tigers today, 5 were to 1 shot. 3 of those 5 came from panzers. 1 of the tiger kills was over 4k away.[/B]
I can't comment on the 4k shot - must have been from a Tiger though. All my Panzer rounds and T34 rounds riccochet off Tigers at 1.4k+ unless it strikes tread. As for the Panzers they need to get in close - under 1k to do damage. Tiger armor is extremely vulnerable from the rear. Also if they hit a certain area on a broadside shot, the turret will blow sky high with 1 shot / 1 kill. Head on is next to impossible unless they hit the driver view port and get lucky. I have found that you have to manuever a Tiger against Panzer - you can't stand there like General Patton taking rounds.
BALSUR - if you don't believe me, if I'm around, call me out and I will take you over to the DA and show you. In fact there is GV Training on Sundays 20:00 hours EST and Wednesdays 20:00 EST in the DA (Field 42). The current training block is killing Tigers in Panzers. You are more than welcome to come down. From what I understand about hit points on GVs I think there is room for improvement (Bomb issue I agree with) but I feel HiTech is pretty much got an accurate model set up as far as GV against GV. It may not be perfect yet but he's heading in the right direction.
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Originally posted by RedDg
Someone needs to introduce the "white rocks" bug just for him for about a week.
you EVIL EVIL man for even suggesting HTC bring those back
LMAO!!!!
i DO have every full version of AH backed up on CD's from AH 1.08 to now.... so we could let him install them lol
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
My personal opinnion is that GV's are just fine as they are. But when they take away from the gameplay of the aircombat side (such as milkrunning fields in tanks, camping osties at vulch positions etc.) They suck major time.
Hmmm...don't airplanes do the same thing? Except camp of course. They call it circleing.
But I guess then it is referred to as the Manly Mans Sport of Air Combat. :D
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the whole ah theory that hitting "sweet spots" on gvs is baloney. Ive been 1 ping killed in tigers constantly from every direction. Ive also had a panzer in an enemy hangar and been straffed, egged, and fired upon by multiple tanks for over a half hour with no damage cept a tread out. Got 27 kills before they got me in field gun.
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If you are in a panzer shooting at a tiger straight on, your best bet it to try and slide an HE round underneath it. I didn't believe this would work till I slid 2 under a tiger with no previous damage and it went up like a roman candle =)
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the whole ah theory that hitting "sweet spots" on gvs is baloney. Ive been 1 ping killed in tigers constantly from every direction. Ive also had a panzer in an enemy hangar and been straffed, egged, and fired upon by multiple tanks for over a half hour with no damage cept a tread out. Got 27 kills before they got me in field gun
dont u think u should know what u are talking about b4 making such a statment,,,come to the DA sunday or wednesday and u could learn alot ,,,thats obvious
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lol BGB:D
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LOL sounds like my Killing Tigers Training is paying off.
The Playing field is getting evened out finally.
Quote:If you are in a panzer shooting at a tiger straight on, your best bet it to try and slide an HE round underneath it. I didn't believe this would work till I slid 2 under a tiger with no previous damage and it went up like a roman candle =)
He;s just tryin to get someone killed ain,t he?
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I know that a vast majority fly planes, but HTC put gvs in for a reason. So to you pilots, wouldnt u be pissed if you were flying a Me262 and cant kill a P-40b but it keeps up with u in level flight and hits you with one ping from its .30 cal and you explode? Thats pretty much exactly what happened to Balsur.
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Me262's aren't invulnerable. They can be caught and they can be shot down.
It only takes one bullet to kill someone...
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AH STARTED as a flying game, but evolved into something MUCH better thanks to GV's.
I also think GVing is 200 times better than it was, but it will get better by this type of feedback. Some tigers are immune from bomb damage, but can be killed easily by another GV.
It happens. Not a big deal, but worthy of mention.
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Originally posted by EagleEyes
I know that a vast majority fly planes, but HTC put gvs in for a reason. So to you pilots, wouldnt u be pissed if you were flying a Me262 and cant kill a P-40b but it keeps up with u in level flight and hits you with one ping from its .30 cal and you explode? Thats pretty much exactly what happened to Balsur.
Put the enough rounds in the cockpit are and goodbye 262 - don't care what type fighter your in.
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Originally posted by BALSUR
whatever, I was looking for an answer from Hitech or Skuzzy. Not a bunch of people who seem they need to shed their light on every subject.
BTW: check the stats more people are killed with a panzer than anything else in this game. So, come down off your perch if you can and acknowledge that this is a war simulator and as for "Aces High" most tank commanders were also known as "Aces".
ALso, I have been around this game for quite awhile.
email ht
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Originally posted by Stang
What do the words "ACES HIGH" mean to you Balsur.
So why did they bother stacking 2-2D trees side by side and pretend that it looks 3D? They take away from the realism of the air to air combat (trees sometimes invisible unless viewed at the right angle as 2D objects have no depth) and were obviously put there to enhance GV aspect of game. The question is, what does ACES HIGH mean to HiTech? Our definitions obviously differ.
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GV? WTF is that?
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Originally posted by Fish323
So why did they bother stacking 2-2D trees side by side and pretend that it looks 3D? They take away from the realism of the air to air combat (trees sometimes invisible unless viewed at the right angle as 2D objects have no depth) and were obviously put there to enhance GV aspect of game. The question is, what does ACES HIGH mean to HiTech? Our definitions obviously differ.
You could fish in a different pond?
It amazes me that you gripe and complain like HTC developed the game just to personally ruin the game for you. Why don't you encourage 3D trees instead of griping about the ones that are there when, as an flying player, you have 30+ K of other space to fly in.
I'm betting HTC will value your constructive feedback, but don't give a dang how you define their development strategy.
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Originally posted by GreenCloud
GVS have coem a FARRRRR way from where they had been..FACT
yes white rocks..that is too funny..i already forgot about thsoe land mines
shut ur whoel u tonka toy twits..they improve with each new AH version...
sheesh
a bit more cry fires with that whaaaaburger?
hehehe?..
did soemone lose a tiger last night?
I like to see someone use his real life experiences in his post, now that adds realism. Grow up.
And one more thing, when a person or persons offer a service and charge money for it, they open themselves up to criticism (hopefully condtructive, as Balsur's was) from those who pay for the service. If one cannot handle criticism they should stay out of the spotlight.
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Originally posted by 1Klink
LOL sounds like my Killing Tigers Training is paying off.
The Playing field is getting evened out finally.
Quote:If you are in a panzer shooting at a tiger straight on, your best bet it to try and slide an HE round underneath it. I didn't believe this would work till I slid 2 under a tiger with no previous damage and it went up like a roman candle =)
He;s just tryin to get someone killed ain,t he?
The HE bug was supposed to have been fixed way way back.
Guess not.