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Title: Help HTC find the vox-loss bug
Post by: -sudz- on March 18, 2005, 11:30:56 AM
Hi all,

If any of you would like to help us track down the vox-loss bug please follow these steps:

1) Start (or restart) filming - r toggles the filming on and off. We will eventually use this film to narrow our search.

2) Type in chat "Lost Voice" - To avoid bugging other players you might want to type it into the chat channel that would have the fewest players tuned in: private, room, squad, country, all.  When we see this in the film we'll know when to start tracking.

3) Message "Lost Voice" over your microphone - This is so we trace it to make sure it's gets all the way to transmission.

4) Ask those within range to transmit a vox message and confirm message sent over chat - It should be obvious what we'll get from that :)

That's really all we'll need to help narrow down the search for this ellusive problem.  If you're so inclined, you can include the following optional steps but, if not, stop recording.  That way we can keep the film file size minimal.

(Optional)
5) Type .resetv to reset vox, and then type "resetv" in the chat buffer - so we know the test is continued.

6) Repeat steps 1 - 4

7) Stop recording

That's it.  If you could then send the film file as an attachment to

sudz@hitechcreations.com

I'd very much appreciate it.  Hitech and I will delve into this and hopefully flush this bug from its Escher-inspired hiding spot.

One last thing.  Monitor this board - I'll put up a big "STOP" once we have enough films to tear into.

Thanks,
- sudz
Title: Help HTC find the vox-loss bug
Post by: SkyChimp on March 18, 2005, 02:03:21 PM
Will do <> squad vox get's lost alot... Sux < Sudz
Title: Help HTC find the vox-loss bug
Post by: wrag on March 18, 2005, 04:16:55 PM
A little note that might help?

My squadies sometimes lose vox.  Yet I can't recall the last time I lost it.

My squadies are running WinXP I'm running Win98SE.

Anyone else running Win98SE????

Anyone else that's running Win98SE and ever lose vox?

Thinkin it may be one of those buried WinXP commands?  You know the kind that shuts stuff off or sometimes does something and other times doesn't?

The kind you've got to set in 4 different places in order to get it to work the way you want it to.

Just a thought.
Title: Help HTC find the vox-loss bug
Post by: fuzeman on March 18, 2005, 04:51:19 PM
Win98se here. Loose it regularly in TA. This regards range channel in flight which I usually use in the TA.
Would DxDiags help? I assume they would and you'll probably ask certain people who's films prove helpfull in finding the dadburn lil insect.
Title: Help HTC find the vox-loss bug
Post by: TheCage on March 18, 2005, 05:18:24 PM
I run Win XP and I too can't remember the last time I lost vox.   It's got to be either driver related or hardware related.   Might be a good idea to see what hardware is being used in relation to vox failure.
Title: Help HTC find the vox-loss bug
Post by: Anchor on March 18, 2005, 05:50:28 PM
Me too. I don't think I have ever lost it...vox that is.

My mind has been gone.
Title: Help HTC find the vox-loss bug
Post by: Deth7 on March 18, 2005, 09:09:16 PM
win98se here rarely lose it. only time I do it's in a gv battle with lotsa talkin goin on. alt tab out and in vox back.
Title: Help HTC find the vox-loss bug
Post by: culero on March 18, 2005, 09:54:55 PM
W98SE here, have never lost vox.

Maybe sound card is a commonality? (SB16 here)

culero
Title: Help HTC find the vox-loss bug
Post by: NHawk on March 19, 2005, 06:05:44 AM
I run XP and rarely lose vox. But I can tell you that if you turn "Sound 2" in DxDiag down or off (even if you don't use it) you will have trouble in all vox enabled programs.
Title: Help HTC find the vox-loss bug
Post by: Roscoroo on March 19, 2005, 11:22:33 AM
98se here also .

i lose "transmit" part of vox when the main numbers are high 450 plus .. and ussually after 10 transmits .

if i use resetv command i ussually get a lockup or a sound loop

when the numbers are less i dont seam to  have any problem with vox

Asus a7n8x-e deluxe (Nforce w/ soundstorm) 4.27 internatinal drivers
2500+ barton @ 2.4 ghz
512 ddr
crucial radion 9600 pro 128  w 4.7 cats
98se with sp 1.5 and all the tweeks , DX 9.0c
Title: Help HTC find the vox-loss bug
Post by: DipStick on March 19, 2005, 05:09:15 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Roscoroo
i lose "transmit" part of vox when the main numbers are high 450 plus .. and ussually after 10 transmits .

I use XP, have noticed the exact same thing. When numbers are high 450+ VOX is likely to go out for many within 30 mins or so. If the numbers are over 500 there are alot of warps in addition to VOX going out...
Title: Help HTC find the vox-loss bug
Post by: Deth7 on March 20, 2005, 07:15:51 AM
SB live btw
Title: Help HTC find the vox-loss bug
Post by: Balsy on March 20, 2005, 07:18:25 AM
I notice a quick white screen "flash" when I engage transmission in vox sometimes.

Anyone else see this brief white screen flash?
Title: Help HTC find the vox-loss bug
Post by: DrWig on March 20, 2005, 05:58:24 PM
This might be totally unrelated, and be perhaps coz I don't understand how the vox is supposed to work, but I once was receiving vox from a player when neither the range (F12) or .radio 5 (T) were tuned into anyone at all according to the chat box thing.

cheers

DrWig
Title: Help HTC find the vox-loss bug
Post by: fuzeman on March 20, 2005, 06:45:40 PM
DrWig, he may have tuned radio 5 to you privately. If he did you wouldn't see his name in the message window, brough up by the / key, or in the Voice box, the box showing tuned and range channel and the people on them.

When I loose Xmit capability I usually recieve AOK. I sometimes get graphic glitches. IIRC, the square tic tac toe box around the deploy letters goes away and when I hit t or F12 to Xmit I believe I see a change in my Voice box area. 9 of 10 times when I exit to relog I get the 'Try alternate route' and the 'lines' on that display are corrupted similar to the tic-tac-toe deploy thing. Most times this requires a computer boot to clear and reconnect.
Title: only 1 way
Post by: Stegahorse on March 21, 2005, 12:02:10 AM
I loose vox if I'm talking when I am either crashing or I get blown up (instant death). One other thing happens oddly: I land successfully then instantly(without clicking anything) re-spawn into the hangar(not on runway). Often, I loose vox then also.
Title: Help HTC find the vox-loss bug
Post by: GreenCloud on March 21, 2005, 05:18:58 AM
i very rarely lose vox...will post when i do
Title: Help HTC find the vox-loss bug
Post by: AKDogg on March 21, 2005, 08:17:00 AM
I lose vox avg of twice a night (3 hrs).  Will try to record it though.
Title: Help HTC find the vox-loss bug
Post by: Tilt on March 21, 2005, 12:43:54 PM
OK 2nd hand but Gforce never posts here...........

He will regularly lose vox and find that some how the "boost" gain in his  volume control advanced properties has reset its self. (or the problem is corrected by setting and resetting this check box)

He basically switches it on then off again (or is it off then on again) to return to normal vox.

He has onboard sound with Win XP. Using a Thrust master afterburner II USB.

I always thought this somewhat unique to Gforce but will quiz him more if its of interest.
Title: Screen flash when using Vox
Post by: Traveler on March 23, 2005, 01:19:20 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Balsy
I notice a quick white screen "flash" when I engage transmission in vox sometimes.

Anyone else see this brief white screen flash?


Just started noting the flash.  I noticed when I press the "T" key a screen flash, white around the edges.  However, I seldom lose vox.  It does seem to happen with the number of player in an arena is very large.

When I do lose VOX, the .resetV command is useless.  It has never worked for me.   The only way I have been able to restore vox is to log.
Title: Help HTC find the vox-loss bug
Post by: JB73 on March 23, 2005, 08:05:37 PM
sending 2 films now suds....

first, has squaddie on tuned VOX and resetv (film15)

second has person on range (film 19)

hope they help... if DXDiag is needed, it is:

http://home.wi.rr.com/jabostaffelhq/dxdiag.htm
Title: Help HTC find the vox-loss bug
Post by: JB73 on March 23, 2005, 09:11:04 PM
2nd set of films sent....

seems while i was afk again LOL a few squaddies also lost vocx. i was in a climb out in a p51d at the time, nothing in icon range
Title: Help HTC find the vox-loss bug
Post by: -sudz- on March 24, 2005, 10:20:15 AM
Stop

OK.  Thanks everyone who helped us out on this.  Shout out to hub, jb73, ftjr, and the homies that contributed on this thread.

We've got enough films and it's helped alot.  They indicated that it's not a sound card or hardware related problem (since the film would still contain the vox info), that it's not the connection (since resetv reconnects to the host), and smaller, harder to explain clues.

So Hitech and I went into the desert, sat in the sweat lodge, and summoned our coding spirit beasts (his is a 1 mine a 0).  We did find an oddity or two that we fixed up and, even if it doesn't cure all vox ills, it will definately make it more stable.  All hail the 0.

Thanks again,
- sudz
Title: Help HTC find the vox-loss bug
Post by: JB73 on March 24, 2005, 10:30:55 AM
great to hear sir!!!

glad to be of help
Title: Help HTC find the vox-loss bug
Post by: McCord on April 02, 2005, 07:30:01 PM
Stegahorse.. take you finger of the space bar. That respawning to hanger will stop. Thanks Sudz