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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Dago on March 19, 2005, 09:43:39 PM
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Mighty purty when she's sleeping. :D
(http://www.cpinternet.com/~tlong1//newbaby.jpg)
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It's cute.
What did you name her, and I hope the missus is doing well.
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The missus is busy buying new furniture, and she has started talking to me again. :)
I was hoping for twins.
Collecting parts now for a new custom build designed for 1000 yd shooting.
dago
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How many yards will this do?
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300yds no sweat will stay in the black, with match ammo it can be shot to 600 yrds pretty well, but they really need tweaking at that range to score reliably.
Stuff like receiver bedding, match trigger pull, unitized gas cylinder (secured to front band), medium weight match barrel, national match sights (already installed by Marine Armorer at Camp Perry on this one).
For 1000 yrds, all that and more, including fiberglass stock, double or triple lug receiver attach, heavy match barrel cyrogenically stress relieved (stainless steel, 1 in 10" twist, 6 groove) and a couple other little things.
Fun project, and like any good firearm, it appreciates in value the longer you own it if you take reasonable care of it.
dago
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That's a lot of yards. I bet if you laid that many football fields end to end you could see it from outer space.
But you prolly couldn't hit 5hit from outer space.
And uh... I'm leaving now.
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Excuse the ignorance,
Is that an M1 Garand?
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Close, it is the offspring. It is an M1A, the semi-auto only version of the M14.
The M14 was the follow on to the Garand design, incorporatiing an improved gas system and detachable 20 round magazine, chambered in .308 instead of 30-06, Some parts are interchangable.
dago
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Did you buy that new from Springfield Armory?
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who told you that the gas system was "improved" over the Garrand?
The Garrand takes it's gas from nearer to the muzzle and is a more accurate weapon..
Removable magazines was the big improvement. Not sure that a .308 is much of an improvement over an ought six either except for bulk.
lazs
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I remember the M14 as the service rifle my dad would bring home for marksmanship competitions in the Army reserves. I always thought about getting an accurized version but never have. Instead I have an AR15 for DCM matches, but never have fired it in one yet. Just haven't found (or made) the time.
The AR15 can shoot about 200K rounds before you need to replace the barrel, while the M1/M1A/M14's can only shoot about 5K. The AR15 ammunition is less expensive too. However, for 600m shooting, the M1 (30-06) or M1A (7.62 NATO) outclass the AR15's 5.56 NATO round, imo. The M1/M1A still dominates the DCM matches from what I have seen.
That's a cool rifle!
Regards,
Malta
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It's a Pre-Ban M1A, built in 89, only had 200 rounds through it.
Will post better picture when I am home again.
AR15s are predominate rifle at service matches now. For the long range shooting the M1A is still strong competitor, for actual combat M1A far exceeds the AR15 at long range due to greater energy at impact.
dago
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Oh yeah, M1A barrel can shoot a lot more than 5K, but serious hardcore match shooters would change between 5 and 10k. So would AR15 shooters.
dago
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So does it have a bayonet lug and flash suppressor?
Are they making "post-ban" M1A's now for those of us that might be interested in getting one?
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Yup, has bayonet lug and flash suppressor. And yes, the new ones are being built that way.
Send me a PM if you are interested in buying one and I can give you a few ideas about what you might want to consider. There are things to look for, and things to avoid (including Indian surplus ammo).
dago
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Originally posted by lazs2
who told you that the gas system was "improved" over the Garrand?
The Garrand takes it's gas from nearer to the muzzle and is a more accurate weapon..
Removable magazines was the big improvement. Not sure that a .308 is much of an improvement over an ought six either except for bulk.
lazs
Some experts say the self-adjusting gas system increases reliability, and for that it is considered by some to be "improved".
.308 is considered by most to be a better caliber with regard to weight savings and reduced recoil.
Yes, the M1 is accurate, but personally I dont think any more than the M1A. I dont know personally of too many shooting 1000yd events with the Garand myself. I am sure it could be and probably is done by some.
dago
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Wrong! Common common misconception. The M1a is not the semi auto version of the M14. The M1a is the semi auto remake of the m14. You cannot change parts between the two.
The m14 was such a fine rifle that the civilian demand for it sky rocketed. But one of the things the government told springfield was that they had to make it so that the parts couldn't be interchanged.
I.E. You can't drop a full auto reciever into an M1a.
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Dago, PM's and email through the board are disabled for you.
Mind sending me an email through my profile?
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Nice rifle, congrats. FYI, Garands have been in use at the Camp Perry matches for many years alongside M1As and can still be purchased in "National Match" configuration.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Wrong! Common common misconception. The M1a is not the semi auto version of the M14. The M1a is the semi auto remake of the m14. You cannot change parts between the two.
The m14 was such a fine rifle that the civilian demand for it sky rocketed. But one of the things the government told springfield was that they had to make it so that the parts couldn't be interchanged.
I.E. You can't drop a full auto reciever into an M1a.
Not sure where you got your idea here, but yes, almost every part of the M14 is interchangable with the M1A. The only differance is the removal of the ability to select full auto fire. The original 35000 or so M1As built by Elmer Balance in Devine Texas were rewelded M14 receivers that were modified to prevent the full auto selection. (Elmer was the guy who started building the semi-auto M14, he secured ATF approval to sell it that way, after he sold the his company it later became "Springfield Armory Inc, not to be confused with the government Springfield Armory.)
Currently produced M14 type rifles (the name "M1A" is owned by Springfield Inc ) share virtually all parts with the military M14 except the receiver and full auto selector and rod. The interchangable parts include the Op Rod, Bolt, trigger assy, sights, barrel, stock, gas system. etc.
BTW, you dont drop a receiver into a rifle, the receiver is the rifle, you drop parts into it.
dago
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New Picture(http://www.cpinternet.com/~tlong1/M1A.jpg)