Aces High Bulletin Board

General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: straffo on March 20, 2005, 04:57:37 AM

Title: [BBQ] Côte de boeuf à la crème d'ail
Post by: straffo on March 20, 2005, 04:57:37 AM
cote de boeuf :
(http://maitrequeux.free.fr/quizz/boeuf/cote.jpg)

Put some olive oil on it + herbe de provence + some mustard seed + special herb mix made by my father.

Crème d'ail :
in the middle of the garlic there is a germ : remove or it will add bitternes to the preparation

Put your garlic in cold water let it boil then drain
Repeat 7 time.

Mash the garlic put in a sauce pan.

Add sour cream salt + pepper.

Done for the cream :)

BBQ your beef , 2 minute per side then conver the BBQ and let it for 2 * 7/10 min (depending on your taste)

Serve with french/green beans and some "pomme duchesse/noisette".
Title: [BBQ] Côte de boeuf à la crème d'ail
Post by: Furball on March 20, 2005, 05:07:44 AM
sounds a bit too french for my liking.
Title: [BBQ] Côte de boeuf à la crème d'ail
Post by: straffo on March 20, 2005, 05:15:06 AM
Whatelseyaexpect ?
Title: [BBQ] Côte de boeuf à la crème d'ail
Post by: Chortle on March 20, 2005, 05:49:03 AM
What kind of subversive neo-anarcho-nihilistic terrorist serves beef without Yorkshire pudding? We didn't get the rosbif label for nothing you know.
Title: [BBQ] Côte de boeuf à la crème d'ail
Post by: straffo on March 20, 2005, 07:29:09 AM
(http://www.idols.fr/acatalog/drapeau-pnk-no-dead.jpg)

:D
Title: [BBQ] Côte de boeuf à la crème d'ail
Post by: Toad on March 20, 2005, 07:38:18 AM
Thanks, Straffo! Always fun to try something new.

Now, how many cloves of garlic, how much sour cream? And you have to tell us what's in the special herb mix!

I found a recipe for Pommes Duchesse, so I'm ready there.

I have some nice cotes de boeuf ready for after you answer.

Merci!
Title: [BBQ] Côte de boeuf à la crème d'ail
Post by: straffo on March 20, 2005, 08:23:49 AM
It's pretty hard to translate this recipe so I'm using some latin name because I don't know the English name of some herbs.

Special mix is made of :
(in equal proportion of each ingredient*)

Dry coriander
Dry onion
Dry red  sweet pepper (this (http://www.csdm.qc.ca/cemis/panier/aliments/images/g_poivronrouge.gif))
dry green  sweet pepper (this (http://www.csdm.qc.ca/cemis/panier/aliments/images/g_poivronvert.gif))
Black pepper.
Carum carvi seeds (a sort of cumin aka Cuminum cyminum)
Mustard seed



*depending of the year as sometime one or more of the ingredient is not availlable in my kitchen garden :)

For the garlic cream you need 1.5 glove + about 5 spoon (about 20 centilitre).
You can add to the cream some muscade aka "Myristica fragrans" or nutmeg.

If you don't have all the ingredient of the special mix just mill mustard seed + black pepper.
It add taste but it's not mandatory it's just that I'm addicted to this mix and I've a tendency of using it each time I can :)
Title: Re: [BBQ] Côte de boeuf à la crème d'ail
Post by: Curval on March 20, 2005, 08:23:53 AM
Quote
Originally posted by straffo
BBQ your beef , 2 minute per side then conver the BBQ and let it for 2 * 7/10 min (depending on your taste)


I'm confused by this Straffo.

What do you mean by 2 * 7/10 min ?

Do you mean each side for that long...flip it over?

The garlic sauce sounds yummy.

You really need to post some more recipes..especially for sauces.:aok
Title: [BBQ] Côte de boeuf à la crème d'ail
Post by: straffo on March 20, 2005, 08:28:31 AM
7/10 mean between 7 and 10 minutes

I should remeber you use this notation for fractions :)
Title: [BBQ] Côte de boeuf à la crème d'ail
Post by: Toad on March 20, 2005, 08:47:58 AM
OK, let's see if I have this right.

Put Olive Oil, Herbes de Provence, Mustard seed and "special mix" and let it sit for how long? This is a sort of marinade, right?

The Special Mix:

Dry coriander  Seeds, right? Or Ground?

Dry onion   Flakes or Onion Powder?

Dry red sweet pepper (this)  We have this available as flakes or chunks
 
dry green sweet pepper (this) Flakes or Chunks?
 
Black pepper
 
Carum carvi seeds (a sort of cumin aka Cuminum cyminum)  Here that is "Caraway seeds"; easy to get.

Mustard seed   Easy to get.

*************

How long do you let this sit on the cote before cooking?

I understand 2 minutes per side, then cover and cook 7-10 minutes MORE per side?  That's a LOT of cooking... it'd be 25 minutes! I usually have my steaks done in about 10, 5 on each side. Are you cooking these "well done" or sort of "medium rare?" How hot is the fire?
Title: [BBQ] Côte de boeuf à la crème d'ail
Post by: Curval on March 20, 2005, 09:05:24 AM
Quote
Originally posted by straffo
7/10 mean between 7 and 10 minutes

I should remeber you use this notation for fractions :)


I realise that Straffo..what is the 2 *?  Each side?

lol  Toad is as confused as I am...seems like a long time to me.
Title: [BBQ] Côte de boeuf à la crème d'ail
Post by: straffo on March 20, 2005, 10:53:43 AM
wow :)
More questions than I've expected :)

Quote
Put Olive Oil, Herbes de Provence, Mustard seed and "special mix" and let it sit for how long? This is a sort of marinade, right?


About 1 hour , I think  it's more what you call a rub than a marinade.

Quote
Dry coriander  Seeds, right? Or Ground?

Seed
Quote
Dry onion   Flakes or Onion Powder?

Flakes
Quote
Dry red sweet pepper (this)  We have this available as flakes or chunks

Wtf is a chunk ? :D
I think flakes.
Quote
dry green sweet pepper (this) Flakes or Chunks?

Flake see above
Quote
How long do you let this sit on the cote before cooking?

1 hour.

Quote

I understand 2 minutes per side, then cover and cook 7-10 minutes MORE per side?  That's a LOT of cooking... it'd be 25 minutes! I usually have my steaks done in about 10, 5 on each side. Are you cooking these "well done" or sort of "medium rare?" How hot is the fire?

The cote was about 2 inch thick (5 cm)
For 7 min per side I had medium rare I will never use 10 min except for my father in law who eat beef "well" or more.
I used this (http://www.askthemeatman.com/beef_photo_doneness_guide.htm) as a reference.
I use a weber BBQ (this (http://www.weber.com/bbq/img/cg_ot_s185_md.jpg))
 fire is hot as hell for the first 4 minutes   and as low as I can for the last 14 minutes (something like 50/60°)

You're right Curval the 2* stand for 7 min for each side
Title: [BBQ] Côte de boeuf à la crème d'ail
Post by: Toad on March 20, 2005, 11:00:59 AM
Rub v marinade: Rubs are usually totally dry; using olive oil would make it "wet', thus a marinade but I see that with only a small amount of olive oil it is essentially a rub.

A  "chunk" would be small pieces of dried pepper. Not much good in a rub but would have the desired effect in a very liquid marinade.

Medium rare is good! Would probably work with 5cm beef. Most of ours is more like 1.5 inch or so. I think my grill would take less time... a thing to experiment with and use a good meat thermometer to make sure.


Merci! I will give this a try!
Title: [BBQ] Côte de boeuf à la crème d'ail
Post by: straffo on March 20, 2005, 11:28:58 AM
A precision  the beef weighted 1.2 Kg that explain the long time needed.

Btw I'm preparing the dinner so stay tuned I'll post another recipe soon ;)
Title: Re: Re: [BBQ] Côte de boeuf à la crème d'ail
Post by: Gunslinger on March 20, 2005, 11:36:29 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Curval
I'm confused by this Straffo.

What do you mean by 2 * 7/10 min ?

Do you mean each side for that long...flip it over?

The garlic sauce sounds yummy.

You really need to post some more recipes..especially for sauces.:aok


Arent you more of the type to get this as "take out" verses doing it yourself? ;)
Title: [BBQ] Côte de boeuf à la crème d'ail
Post by: straffo on March 20, 2005, 01:53:28 PM
What is the english name for a "cote de boeuf" ?
Title: [BBQ] Côte de boeuf à la crème d'ail
Post by: Nash on March 20, 2005, 02:07:54 PM
Quote
Originally posted by straffo
What is the english name for a "cote de boeuf" ?


It translates into "Fondle the bull testicles".
Title: [BBQ] Côte de boeuf à la crème d'ail
Post by: Gunslinger on March 20, 2005, 02:12:26 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Nash
It translates into "Fondle the bull testicles".


Edited for Karma
Title: [BBQ] Côte de boeuf à la crème d'ail
Post by: pugg666 on March 20, 2005, 02:46:01 PM
Quote
What is the english name for a "cote de boeuf" ?


Straffo, a direct translation would be "side of beef"

what you have there in your picture is a rib steak.
Title: [BBQ] Côte de boeuf à la crème d'ail
Post by: straffo on March 20, 2005, 03:57:44 PM
Thank Pugg :)
Title: [BBQ] Côte de boeuf à la crème d'ail
Post by: storch on March 20, 2005, 06:31:17 PM
Quote
Originally posted by pugg666
Straffo, a direct translation would be "side of beef"

what you have there in your picture is a rib steak.


yes it's a rib steak.  nice recipe straffo thanks.  :D
Title: [BBQ] Côte de boeuf à la crème d'ail
Post by: GtoRA2 on March 20, 2005, 07:24:52 PM
Yeah thanks Straf, this sounds tasty.
Title: Re: Re: Re: [BBQ] Côte de boeuf à la crème d'ail
Post by: Curval on March 20, 2005, 08:22:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Gunslinger
Arent you more of the type to get this as "take out" verses doing it yourself? ;)


Take out?

Goodnes man, no, not at all.

I simply print off any recipes I like and give them to the butler.  He then passes them on to the chef.

;)
Title: [BBQ] Côte de boeuf à la crème d'ail
Post by: Saintaw on March 21, 2005, 12:27:27 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Furball
sounds a bit too french for my liking.


Its so much better when the meat is boiled with mint isn't it?

:p
Title: [BBQ] Côte de boeuf à la crème d'ail
Post by: storch on March 21, 2005, 06:40:34 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Saintaw
Its so much better when the meat is boiled with mint isn't it?

:p
Q.  why did england have such a large empire? :D
Title: [BBQ] Côte de boeuf à la crème d'ail
Post by: Angus on March 21, 2005, 07:19:59 AM
Beef recipies always welcome.
(Just look at my name, hehe)

Could you use slabs of the inner thie (sp?, - anyway, a soft muscle generally used for roastbeef).

If you can, I may try this tonight :)
Title: [BBQ] Côte de boeuf à la crème d'ail
Post by: straffo on March 21, 2005, 07:59:19 AM
No trouble IMO, just grill it a bit less as the meat got less fat.

forgot to answer Toad completly
Quote
Originally posted by Toad
Rub v marinade: Rubs are usually totally dry; using olive oil would make it "wet', thus a marinade but I see that with only a small amount of olive oil it is essentially a rub.

I use one or perhaps 2 spoon of olive oil , just to be sure the rub "glue" on the meat

Quote
A  "chunk" would be small pieces of dried pepper. Not much good in a rub but would have the desired effect in a very liquid marinade.[/B]

Yep but here it's crushed with the other ingredients in the pepper mill.