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Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: JB73 on March 21, 2005, 01:11:47 PM
Premiere Magazine says the below list is "it" the local paper has a article saying people are bashing the list and there are some mistakes...

it's not bad, but IMHO:

Jack Nicholson belongs higher
Tom Cruise belongs a bit lower

and a few other slight modifications.

what you think?


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Premiere Magazine's List Of '50 Greatest Movie Stars'

1. Cary Grant
2. Marilyn Monroe
3. Tom Cruise
4. John Wayne
5. Ingrid Bergman
6. Paul Newman
7. Julia Roberts
8. Greta Garbo
9. James Stewart
10. Henry Fonda
11. James Cagney
12. Grace Kelly
13. Humphrey Bogart
14. Katharine Hepburn
15. Marlon Brando
16. Jack Nicholson
17. Robert Redford
18. Audrey Hepburn
19. Spencer Tracy
20. Sidney Poitier
21. Clark Gable
22. Judy Garland
23. Fred Astaire
24. Doris Day
25. Bette Davis
26. Errol Flynn
27. Gregory Peck
28. Tom Hanks
29. Warren Beatty
30. James Dean
31. Steve McQueen
32. Jane Fonda
33. Shirley Temple
34. Rita Hayworth
35. Harrison Ford
36. Sean Connery
37. Al Pacino
38. Robert De Niro
39. Denzel Washington
40. Elizabeth Taylor
41. Peter Sellers
42. Gary Cooper
43. Clint Eastwood
44. Will Smith
45. Jack Lemmon
46. Meryl Streep
47. Johnny Depp
48. Nicole Kidman
49. Russell Crowe
50. Brad Pitt
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: Goth on March 21, 2005, 01:27:52 PM
That has to be based on a popularity contest more than anything...I hardly agreed with positions on the list at all.
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on March 21, 2005, 01:29:51 PM
Tom Hanks should be in the top 5
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: thrila on March 21, 2005, 01:33:05 PM
What has tom cruise done to merit him being 3rd?
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: Sikboy on March 21, 2005, 01:34:30 PM
My initial Answer to the question when I read the title of the thread was: "Cary Grant, and 49 random people"

I was right :p

-Sik
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: Sikboy on March 21, 2005, 01:35:49 PM
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Originally posted by thrila
What has tom cruise done to merit him being 3rd?


Keep in mind, they seem to be talking about "movie stars" not "talented actors"


-Sik
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: JB73 on March 21, 2005, 01:37:51 PM
i just noticed HANOI Jane is on there...

replace her with... heck even jared from the subway commercials.


also, russle crowe doesn't belong on the list.
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: Dux on March 21, 2005, 01:48:11 PM
Jack Lemmon is #45?

Pffffft. :rolleyes:
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: Skuzzy on March 21, 2005, 01:50:12 PM
And Walter Matthau?

Pffft. Whoever made up that list is clueless.
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: straffo on March 21, 2005, 01:57:47 PM
Good and it's not americano-centric  ;)
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: wombatt on March 21, 2005, 01:58:56 PM
Steve Mcqueen should be in top 5.
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: NUKE on March 21, 2005, 01:59:39 PM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
And Walter Matthau?

Pffft. Whoever made up that list is clueless.


clueless dolts even :D

I mean, how could Brad Pitt not be number one?
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: JB73 on March 21, 2005, 02:09:15 PM
i was going to say where is pauly shore??
Title: Re: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: Krusher on March 21, 2005, 02:14:16 PM
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Originally posted by JB73
Premiere Magazine says the below list is "it" the local paper has a article saying people are bashing the list and there are some mistakes...

it's not bad, but IMHO:

Jack Nicholson belongs higher
Tom Cruise belongs a bit lower

and a few other slight modifications.

what you think?


You said actors in your title, the poll is about STARS.  Tom Cruise may not be a good actor, but he is a big star.
Title: Re: Re: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: JB73 on March 21, 2005, 02:22:53 PM
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Originally posted by Krusher
You said actors in your title, the poll is about STARS.  Tom Cruise may not be a good actor, but he is a big star.
along that line of thinking Harrison Ford should be #1 #2 and #3

he's the biggest grossing actor in history, by over 3 fold.

the movies he has been in have made more for hollywood than anything... in fact i may be mistaken, but there was a statistic  one time about adding his movies up, then add all other movies for 20 years, and he was still in the lead some insaine number
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: Roscoroo on March 21, 2005, 02:29:16 PM
What no Bruce Cambell ... no larry moe or curly ... no abbot or costello ... John travolta .... and worst of all no

Robin Williams or Mel Gibson

i could go on but whats the point ,,, that list sux .
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: john9001 on March 21, 2005, 03:05:15 PM
please to define "greatest "
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: Sikboy on March 21, 2005, 03:15:31 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
please to define "greatest "


Greater than all others.


Hope that helps.

-Sik
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: 2stony on March 21, 2005, 03:34:56 PM
I want to know why Marilyn Chambers and Ron Jeremy aren't on the list!

:p
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: Blooz on March 21, 2005, 06:02:14 PM
Gene Hackman....

James Coburn....

Ernest Borgnine....

Charlton Heston....
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: Sp4de on March 21, 2005, 06:04:41 PM
1. Sean Connery  is NUMBER 1 THE DAY IS MINE TREBEK!!!!!!!

(http://www.kinoweb.de/film2001/FindingForrester/pix/ff6.jpg)
(http://img34.photobucket.com/albums/v104/recon83/Suck_it_Trebek.jpg)

hes my hero bye the way.....

hes the best freaking guy ever.
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 21, 2005, 06:58:06 PM
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Originally posted by thrila
What has tom cruise done to merit him being 3rd?


3rd?? he doesnt even belong on the flipp'n list!
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: hawker238 on March 21, 2005, 07:00:46 PM
OK, hold on for a second....


Your chastising this list, which is made up of someone's stupid opinions, and wondering why it doesn't coincide with your own stupid opinions?



Carry on.....
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 21, 2005, 07:02:42 PM
Looks like the same kinda bogus list comedy central had about comedians.

How the F does Chris rock rank ahead of the likes of Don Rickles andRodney dangerfeild or even Sam Kinneson I'll never know.
I dont even think he's all the funny to begin with
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: Sandman on March 21, 2005, 07:30:10 PM
Opinions are like bellybutton holes. Everyone has one and this one obviously stinks.

Pffft...

Oh, wait a minute... the topic is greatest "star", not greatest actor.


That would be an entirely different list than this one.
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: Drunky on March 21, 2005, 07:55:50 PM
All time number 1 actor...

Bill "I didn't have sex with that woman...Ms. Lowenski" Clinton
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: -tronski- on March 21, 2005, 08:09:54 PM
Top 50 movie stars?

Pulling power, not ability it seems, and even then it would seem all arsed up...thats saying John Wayne has more range than Edward Norton (who isn't even on the list)

 Tronsky
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 21, 2005, 09:41:03 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman

Oh, wait a minute... the topic is greatest "star", not greatest actor.


That would be an entirely different list than this one.


Ok you have a point there.

Flip Bogy for Cruise though.

Cruise could only aspire to Bogy status. he aint there yet

But wait a second. the thread titel says actors!

Make up yer friggen mind. There is a difference.

"Im not an actor Im a movie star!" - Peter O toole in "My favorite Year"
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: Nash on March 21, 2005, 09:57:07 PM
So, it's not about acting ability then...

Hmm.... It's about being a star. What is a "star," anyways? What qualities does a star have in order to be able to effectively rank those qualities?

Drawing power? As someone has already pointed out, Harrison Ford (#35) has drawn far far more to his movies than, say, Sidney Poitier (#20).

Intrigue of the People Magazine variety? It's probably safe to say that Steve McQueen (#31) and James Dean (#30) are probably slightly more interesting personalities than Tom Cruise (#3).

What is a star? What is being factored in? What are they measuring, exactly?

I have no idea... But I can tell you what they're NOT factoring in.

I posit, The Penn Factor.

(http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/TV2/archive/00162/reuters_sean_penn_162917a.jpg)

Take it! Take it!
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: Toad on March 21, 2005, 11:29:06 PM
Bolshevik Bob Boroda in Michael Moore's documentary  "The Katyn Massacre: How 24,000+ Committed Suicide."

Great flick.
Title: what are the 50 greatest actors?
Post by: rpm on March 22, 2005, 01:19:10 AM
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Originally posted by Nash
I can tell you what they're NOT factoring in.

I posit, The Penn Factor.

(http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/TV2/archive/00162/reuters_sean_penn_162917a.jpg)

Take it! Take it!

:aok