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Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 21, 2005, 02:17:21 PM: TRACK: Côte d'Azur (Monaco)
CAR: Renault "Clio Renault Sport V6 Phase 2 '03"
MODS: Oil change and car wash allowed. Standard (N1,N2,N3) tires only.
AIDS: TCS & ASM disabled for wheel users. Others may use TCS & ASM.

Notes:
- Be sure to buy the car new from the Renault section. The Clio Renault Sport available in the used section is a different variant.
- Funkypants carries 50kg ballast this week.

RULES:
- Gran Turismo mode practice only. No arcade mode or drafting AI cars.
- Use only those driving aids available on the real life car.
- Try not to cut corners too much.
- Lowest single lap time wins.
- Post times in this thread by Monday AM.
- Winner picks next week's track, car, and mods.
- Winner must carry 50kg ballast in next week's competition. Subsequent wins add 50kg ballast for each win, up to a maximum of 200kg. If winning streak is ended, 50kg is removed each week that the driver does not win.
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 21, 2005, 02:30:30 PM: Week 1 Standings

Funkypants_____1:32.714 - 10 pts
Swoop_________1:33.559 - 6 pts
indy007________1:34.241 - 4 pts
Frenchy________1:34.590 - 3 pts
Saurdaukar_____1:36.196 - 2 pts
Funkypants' Dad_1:39.8 - 1 pt
takeda_________1:42.934 - also ran
GtoRA2_________1:48:06 - also ran
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on March 21, 2005, 02:31:31 PM: Boooooo you fixed teh times, you cheetar!
-SW
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: Swoop on March 21, 2005, 03:35:47 PM: 1.53.747 so far.

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Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 21, 2005, 04:04:53 PM: Good lap, I haven't broken 1:55.2 yet.
I think I'm driving rally style too much.
Frenchy should like the oversteer on this one. :)
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: Swoop on March 21, 2005, 04:20:35 PM: Oh forgot to say, ASM off completely, TCM at lvl 1.

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Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: takeda on March 21, 2005, 05:12:51 PM: Bummer, here I was happy with my 2:07.9... well, just 15 laps so far...
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: indy007 on March 21, 2005, 07:37:27 PM: 1'55:738 - wheel
1'52:642 - controller i geuss tc does help.
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 21, 2005, 07:46:23 PM: Whoa nice one.
It doesn't seem like wheelspin is too bad on this car. Big rear tires and the engine is right over the rear axle.
I think maybe the controller just makes it easier to make fast big steering moves like you need for this track. With the wheel you have to have really fast hands for the hairpin and the harbor chicane. Or maybe you two are just studly on this track.
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 21, 2005, 07:46:55 PM: 1:53.544
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on March 21, 2005, 08:49:32 PM: Oh Hello, drivo Reno Clio Monaco?
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: Nash on March 21, 2005, 08:51:53 PM: This is a great idea, Funked. I guess it goes to show that anything is possible. :)

Still, I think these threads are seriously lackin' in pics. And I wish I could play.
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: indy007 on March 21, 2005, 09:06:48 PM: Quote
Originally posted by FUNKED1
Whoa nice one.
It doesn't seem like wheelspin is too bad on this car. Big rear tires and the engine is right over the rear axle.
I think maybe the controller just makes it easier to make fast big steering moves like you need for this track. With the wheel you have to have really fast hands for the hairpin and the harbor chicane. Or maybe you two are just studly on this track.

It understeers real bad if you even look at the gas funny, but was entertaining to drive. Was much better when it got some downforce. I traded a bit of power for handling. Car isn't too terribly fast to begin with. :)
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 21, 2005, 11:14:40 PM: Downforce????
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: Swoop on March 22, 2005, 02:05:56 AM: Yeah, what Funky said.

And in addition to the ????'s let me also add !!!!

I'm also not convinced allowing pad users all the driving aids is a good idea. I'm currently under a 1/4 second behind Funked using no ASM and TCM at lvl 1 only. I'll turn em back on later and see how much improvement I get.

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Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: indy007 on March 22, 2005, 10:31:12 AM: Quote
Originally posted by FUNKED1
Downforce????

Take 1200 you'd normally spend on a power mod, go to GT Auto, buy a wing (bigger/gaudier/ricier the better imho). Now you have adjustable downforce on this car, up to 30 front & back. Helps in the corners. Now, how an ugly rear wing will give you adjustable downforce on the front of your vehicle... I dunno... but the game lets me do it :)
Title: Re: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: Swoop on March 22, 2005, 10:50:46 AM: Quote
Originally posted by FUNKED1
MODS: Oil change and car wash allowed. Standard (N1,N2,N3) tires only.

No $ amount specified this week. Only mods allowed are those listed above.

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Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: indy007 on March 22, 2005, 10:59:27 AM: What happened to the 75k thing?

Well in that case I'm @ 1:58.421 in a naked car with N3 tires.
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: Swoop on March 22, 2005, 11:10:00 AM: The 75k thing was GTO's choice. Funked won that challenge so now it's his choice and he chooses oil change, wash and tyres. When (;)) I win one my choice will be somewhere in between I think.

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Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: indy007 on March 22, 2005, 11:13:51 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Swoop
The 75k thing was GTO's choice. Funked won that challenge so now it's his choice and he chooses oil change, wash and tyres. When (;)) I win one my choice will be somewhere in between I think.

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I don't care what you pick as long as it's not a car that makes me wanna get out & run the lap on foot like these last 2 choices :)
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: takeda on March 22, 2005, 11:19:15 AM: Put another 10 laps in, and figured that you don't need to brake at all in many of those last corners, which sorta helps to keep the momentum going.

2:02.168

Under 2', here I come!
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 22, 2005, 11:46:27 AM: Takeda FWIW I probably have 1000 laps on this track in different sims, and my best in my first session with this car was 1:58. So if you can break 2:00 you are doing great. :)

And Indy, sorry for the misunderstanding about the mods. Just use a stock car except for N series tires and wash/oil change. Remember you can't undo lightening and port/polish/balance/blueprint. :)
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 22, 2005, 11:48:15 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Swoop
Yeah, what Funky said.

And in addition to the ????'s let me also add !!!!

I'm also not convinced allowing pad users all the driving aids is a good idea. I'm currently under a 1/4 second behind Funked using no ASM and TCM at lvl 1 only. I'll turn em back on later and see how much improvement I get.

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1081438631_swoop.gif)

Remember I am carrying the 50kg too.
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: Swoop on March 22, 2005, 11:53:49 AM: Yeah but you've done a thousand laps and I've done thirty. I have the whole week to get better......

And in about 15 mins I'll let ya know how much diff ASM and TCM make to my 1.53.747

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Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: indy007 on March 22, 2005, 11:55:34 AM: Quote
Originally posted by FUNKED1
And Indy, sorry for the misunderstanding about the mods. Just use a stock car except for N series tires and wash/oil change. Remember you can't undo lightening and port/polish/balance/blueprint. :)

Yeah I know. I've got 3 of these cars now. Stock, Lightweight, & Power. that 1:58 was stock. It's kinda funny, unless you spend *ALOT* this car doesn't get much faster.
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: takeda on March 22, 2005, 12:06:44 PM: 2:00.016, hitting the rails once.

I do quite allright until the tunnel, ruin half of my laps at the chicane, then I have still lots to learn about those tricky last corners.

I did my share of Monaco in the old Geoff Crammond Grand Prix games. I remember the climb up after the first corner feeling a lot narrower and scary in the F1.
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: Swoop on March 22, 2005, 12:19:35 PM: With ASM set to 10 and TCS set to 5 (default) I can't break 1.55.

With ASM off and TCS on 1 I just did a 1.52.933.

Fine, let pad users use driving aids.....I'm faster without.

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Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: takeda on March 22, 2005, 03:55:54 PM: 1:48.445
1:58.445

And I have done every corner better than in this lap at least once... just can't bring them together in a single one :)
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 22, 2005, 06:23:35 PM: Swoop you are sick and I hope you never get well.
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: Swoop on March 22, 2005, 06:25:09 PM: How did you know?

And how in God's name did Takeda get a 1.48?!?

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Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 22, 2005, 06:35:16 PM: He meant 1:58 I think.
I couldn't even break 1:50 on this track in a RUF BTR. The Clio is actually a pretty good car for this track. Nimble, oversteer on demand, easy to control with the throttle, etc.

I was fooling around with Supras yesterday. I had two late models, one turbo and one NA. I modded them both fully and ran them at Tsukuba. I ran the NA one vs. Stage 1, Stage 2, and Stage 4. Even with 900 hp I could only run about 1 sec faster than the 400 hp NA car or the Stage 2 car. I think with TCS or R tires it would have been different, but it was an interesting experiment.
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: Saurdaukar on March 22, 2005, 06:47:17 PM: Alright... no more posting a time after 15 laps... y'all are going DOWN this week.

Monaco is my *****.
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: takeda on March 22, 2005, 06:59:04 PM: Got it down to 1:56.725, still have probs with the 2nd Portier corner, which kills my max speed on the tunnel, and the second half of the Swimming Pool turns.
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: schizer on March 22, 2005, 07:48:19 PM: can any of you match this?

http://www.godoftheinternet.com/m3_gtr_nurburgring.wmv
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on March 22, 2005, 08:25:02 PM: what codec do I need? I see funky colors?
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: schizer on March 22, 2005, 09:33:42 PM: Quote
Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
what codec do I need? I see funky colors?

Dunno, guessing WM10
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: Saurdaukar on March 22, 2005, 10:12:58 PM: 1:54.153 after about 20-30 minutes of playing. There's another 2 seconds in there at least for me, I think.

Great little car - very predictable.
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: Swoop on March 23, 2005, 01:58:59 AM: Aye, the Renault Clitorus is a nice handling little motor. Prefer the Williams version but ya can't have everything.

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Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on March 23, 2005, 02:14:42 AM: Finally got to practice tonight. Fun car to drive, go drift!

Best i came up with is 1:55:758, didn't hit a single wall (no arcade high speed bounce). Still slower than the rest of you guys:p
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: Swoop on March 23, 2005, 02:19:55 AM: Hey Funked, what happened to the mob over on that other board you frequent?

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Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: Monk on March 23, 2005, 10:35:22 AM: You guys suck! I've barely have enough money to buy a Yaris.
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: indy007 on March 23, 2005, 10:42:53 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Monk
You guys suck! I've barely have enough money to buy a Yaris.

Get a moderately quick car. Doesn't have to be expensive. Run Capri, the 2nd choice in Special Condition Events, many times. Every time you win the pair of races (same track, forward & reverse), you get the Toyota Rally-X. It sells for 250k+. You'll have plenty of money fast.
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: Monk on March 23, 2005, 10:55:29 AM: Quote
Originally posted by indy007
Get a moderately quick car. Doesn't have to be expensive. Run Capri, the 2nd choice in Special Condition Events, many times. Every time you win the pair of races (same track, forward & reverse), you get the Toyota Rally-X. It sells for 250k+. You'll have plenty of money fast.
Ahhh, thank you.
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on March 24, 2005, 02:40:58 AM: 1:54:322, getting a bit better. Fun car to drive on a very technical track. Great we have the luxury to push it till we hit, compared to real life.
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: nuchpatrick on March 24, 2005, 07:54:44 AM: 2:02.214 Best I can do with that ugly beast..
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: indy007 on March 24, 2005, 07:56:45 AM: 1:52.988 - controller. Can't swing the wheel fast enough for some of those corners.

btw, this same car is in the Super license test, #9 or so, running on Opera. Drove it until I got the gold medal, then went back to Monaco. 2 hours and no small amount of cursing my ghost car, I don't think I can make it go faster.

1:52.901 After another 2 hours (minimal gf-ack this week!)
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: takeda on March 24, 2005, 06:45:22 PM: After 100 more laps, I noticed I was using N2 tires, went to N3 and disabled TCS & ASM

1:53,931

I've screwed a bunch of .5 sec better laps at the chicane.
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: Swoop on March 25, 2005, 03:09:32 AM: Mate of mine wants to join us and he's only just started playing GT4. He's bought the Clitorus but the Monaco course is not available for selection under city courses.

Anyone got any idea what it takes to unlock it?

EDIT: nev mind. Just discovered it unlocks automatically on day 183.

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Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: takeda on March 25, 2005, 05:49:24 AM: Was this >< close from getting the DFP yesterday, had the wifey apparently convinced and the wheel sitting there in the store just waiting to be picked up, but then I had one of those insightful moments in which you can really, you know, read her mind, and it went like...

"This clown is actually going to blow 120 Eur in this silly piece of crap"

So I backed off from the PS2 stuff and just picked up a pack of batteries for the remote.

She's in fact right, 120 Eur for a "toy wheel" is somewhat steep for a GDP-handicapped spaniard, so i´ll keep on sacrificing my thumb to the Gods of Racing 'til I get a raise :D

Oh, BTW, lots of nice challenges here:
http://www.granturismox.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=12&sid=1d0c09375a8ea00d94296597716eb0f0
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on March 28, 2005, 01:34:18 PM: 1:54:112, didn't have time to drive more to get the the last 1 sec improvement.
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: boxboy28 on March 28, 2005, 01:39:50 PM: All right boys My B-day is upon us and im gonna get me a FF wheel and this game. Whats the full name of this Game?

And any one got a suggestion for a good FF whell and peddles?
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 28, 2005, 03:30:35 PM: Week 2 Results:
1. Indy007 1:52.901 - 10 pts
2. Swoop 1:52.933 - 6 pts
3. Funkypants 1:53.544 - 4 pts
4. Takeda 1:53.931 - 3 pts
5. Frenchy 1:54.112 - 2 pts
6. Saurdaukar 1:54.153 - 1 pt
7. Nuchpatrick 2:02.214 - Honorable Mention

Overall Standings:
1. Indy007 - 14 pts
1. Funkypants - 14 pts
3. Swoop - 12 pts
4. Frenchy - 5 pts
5. Takeda - 3 pts
5.. Saurdaukar - 3 pts
7. Dad - 1 pt

Indy let us know what you want for week 3, and I will go ahead and start a new thread.

Note that for week 3, Indy will carry 50kg ballast and I go back to zero ballast.
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 28, 2005, 03:33:29 PM: Quote
Originally posted by boxboy28
All right boys My B-day is upon us and im gonna get me a FF wheel and this game. Whats the full name of this Game?

And any one got a suggestion for a good FF whell and peddles?

You need a Playstation2 of course. :)
Game is "Gran Turismo 4".
Wheel is Logitech Driving Force Pro.
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: boxboy28 on March 28, 2005, 04:13:47 PM: Dang they dont have it for the PC? Well whats a good PC Racing game to get and PC FF wheel?
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 28, 2005, 04:18:21 PM: Get the same wheel, get the PC drivers here (http://www.wingmanteam.com/files/Patches/beta/LGS460ENU.exe), get Live for Speed (http://www.liveforspeed.net/), probably the closest thing to GT4 for the PC.
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: indy007 on March 28, 2005, 04:39:17 PM: Toyota Corolla Rally Car '98, snow tires, no mods (only stage 3, 4 turbo, nos, & rigidity available anyways).
Same controller settings as week 2.
Stage: Ice Arena.
I'm carrying 50k ballast, none for anybody else.

That's okay. I'll get stomped here anyways, but it's fun :)
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 28, 2005, 04:45:37 PM: Can that car be bought?
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 28, 2005, 04:54:48 PM: BTW 6 cars within 1.2 seconds. Awesome. :)
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: indy007 on March 28, 2005, 05:20:55 PM: Quote
Originally posted by FUNKED1
Can that car be bought?

Yeah. It's in Toyota's Classic's Section. Kinda pricey, but it's the perfect car for this track.

..in fact, it's the only Toyota factory rally car you can buy.
Title: Ah O'club Gt4 Challenge Week 2
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 28, 2005, 05:27:23 PM: OK cool then.

Here's a link to the new thread:
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=146745