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Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: moose on March 21, 2005, 05:27:49 PM
hey,
a friend of mine came out to her car to find this... any idea of what could have done that? it definitely wasnt there yesterday

(http://mysite.verizon.net/~akamu/P1010106.JPG)
(http://mysite.verizon.net/~akamu/P1010104.JPG)

it seems really low, and there isnt any paint scratches... i would venture a guess that it would be a tow hitch for a trailer but who knows.. i dont think a snowbank would do that though
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: NUTTZ on March 21, 2005, 05:43:26 PM
My first guess would be an EX Husband.

NUTTZ
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: GtoRA2 on March 21, 2005, 05:45:16 PM
Your only course of action is to Junk it. It is a hondah after all!:D
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: Nash on March 21, 2005, 06:16:26 PM
Either:

(http://www.ngb.army.mil/news/2002/01/01/bobsled.jpg)

Or:

(http://www.photocoordinates.co.uk/History%20web/images/60's%20Lotus.jpg)
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: RedDg on March 21, 2005, 06:21:31 PM
Skateboarders longing for spring?
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: Roscoroo on March 21, 2005, 06:28:47 PM
looks like a wrabbit strike
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: moose on March 21, 2005, 07:40:50 PM
as much as im not a honda fan i'd appreciate smart answers :aok

rosco you think a rabbit did that?
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: Wolf14 on March 21, 2005, 07:46:45 PM
I'd say a small animal strike myself as well. I also wouldnt toss out a random person feeling the need to kick something.
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: RightF00T on March 21, 2005, 08:40:08 PM
Is she absolutely sure it happened today?  That could be missed easily in the rush of life.

If not, I would say someone with some type of brush guard that protudes low hit it.  This is very tricky though because there are no scratches...at all.
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: moose on March 21, 2005, 08:44:30 PM
yeah, i dont know what would leave a dent like that without scratches. the only thing i could think of was a stainless steel trailer knob maybe

i duno if you could kick the front of a car in like that but it is pretty much foot height

i saw the car the other day and it was fine, and she didnt really go anywhere other then her commute to work this morning.. so i duno.
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: Bluedog on March 21, 2005, 08:51:28 PM
Basketball.


It is extremely thin metal, and a ball bouncing up from just in front of it would easily do that, it wouldnt leave any scratches, and being in an asphalt car park, in front (or back) of a condo, it wouldn't be unheard of for a few kids to be bouncing a ball around the joint.
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: moose on March 21, 2005, 08:52:21 PM
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Originally posted by Bluedog
Basketball.


hmmmmmmmmmm

has the shape of one for sure!
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: Roscoroo on March 21, 2005, 09:24:47 PM
did ya reach behind it and pop it back out ? and what kind of intra structure does it have behind it ?  steel or  plastic honeycombs  ??

ive seen some repair shops leave that stuff out or damaged after they fix those things ... depends on the cars history ..
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: moose on March 21, 2005, 09:43:09 PM
well, i havent seen the car since it happened since i was busy today.. but her friend tried popping the panels back out and couldn't, so i suspect the actual bumper behind there might have been damaged.

she was at work when this happened apparently, so who knows

brand new car for her, and i bet thats way more then the deductable if the bumpers messed up. crappy luck for sure
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: Dune on March 21, 2005, 11:14:57 PM
Get a piece of wood and a screw jack. See if that will push it out.
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: Staga on March 22, 2005, 01:03:19 AM
It clearly needs This (http://www.autosportz.com/body_kits/01_civic/cwing_fb.jpg) , new paint and some neon lights :)
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 22, 2005, 01:19:10 AM
Her pissed off boyfriend probably kicked it cause she couldnt stay as long as he wanted her too :D
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: hblair on March 22, 2005, 12:00:14 PM
Get behind it and push it out moose. You might have to take the undercover off, prolly 10mm bolts and/or clips. you can use a hairdryer to get the plastic more workable. If I wrote an estimate on it I'd figure a new cover. You'd prolly look at 300-450 bucks.
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: hblair on March 22, 2005, 12:05:02 PM
What year model is that moose?
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: indy007 on March 22, 2005, 12:53:51 PM
I'm with Bluedog. Looks the right size/height/shape for it.

That bumper cover is just plastic, but once its creased like that it's always going to look messed up. That's pretty low, so I highly doubt it would've damaged the absorber or reinforcement. Luckily, a bumper cover for a Honda can be gotten for about $100. Add in paint & install, maybe $250 or so depending on the shop.

Not the exact model, but pretty close:

(http://www.trademotion.com/schematics/images/4/4440010.gif)
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: mason22 on March 22, 2005, 02:05:56 PM
tow hitch is prolly low enough to cuase that.
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: hblair on March 22, 2005, 02:52:59 PM
Almost looks like she drug it on a curb backing out. indy007, a shop would starve at that rate. I thought lowballed it.:)  You're looking in the neighborhood of 550-580 bucks moose to have it fixed right. That's going by our rates here and all.
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: indy007 on March 22, 2005, 03:32:01 PM
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Originally posted by hblair
Almost looks like she drug it on a curb backing out. indy007, a shop would starve at that rate. I thought lowballed it.:)  You're looking in the neighborhood of 550-580 bucks moose to have it fixed right. That's going by our rates here and all.


Rates around here for prep & paint are $50/hr & bodywork for $40/hr seems to be the average. I'm not an estimator by any means, so I tend to quote the "Hey, wanna make a quick buck?" prices without realising it :) Hell, my last timing job only cost me $20 + parts.
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: mora on March 22, 2005, 04:06:01 PM
I seriously doubt the quality of the paint job at that price.
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: indy007 on March 22, 2005, 04:51:47 PM
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Originally posted by mora
I seriously doubt the quality of the paint job at that price.


Those avg. prices here are at shops I'd feel comfortable taking my car to for insurance work. Out of pocket, I'll always pay one of the body men on the side (because I have that luxury). I'm pretty picky too. Houston overall has fairly good prices on most anything. I haven't even paid over $1.80 for gas yet.
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: cobia38 on March 22, 2005, 05:16:20 PM
Moose if your friend wants a quick cheap fix take a hot air gun and heat that bumper cover in the damaged area. you want it hot enuff that you can barly touch it but not hot enuff to wrinkle the paint, then reach behind and push it out and let it cool. it should return to its original contur.
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: CavemanJ on March 22, 2005, 08:15:04 PM
I see some snow in the background of the first pic....

My wife caved in the lower right corner of the front piece by hitting the snow bank that had been created by the plows, then froze over night.  She didn't realize she'd hit anything/damaged the bumper til she saw it the next morning.
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: Nash on March 22, 2005, 08:20:11 PM
Even though I like my errant bobsled theory, I think Caveman landed on it. I can't get my head around not hearing the striking of some animal, but creeping up on a pile of snow while parking...

It'd be gentle, quiet, cause the shape pictured, and you'd likely attribute the loss of forward momentum to loss of traction.

Look at the car in the background in the 1st pic. It's likely got a matching dent. :)
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: CavemanJ on March 22, 2005, 08:26:05 PM
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Originally posted by Nash
Even though I like my errant bobsled theory, I think Caveman landed on it. I can't get my head around not hearing the striking of some animal, but creeping up on a pile of snow while parking...

It'd be gentle, quiet, cause the shape pictured, and you'd likely attribute the loss of forward momentum to loss of traction.

Look at the car in the background in the 1st pic. It's likely got a matching dent. :)


The wife said she felt the bump, but chalked it up to hitting the brakes too hard and not paying enough attention.  That'd do it.  I could snag I pic or two of the Cavalier in the morning for comparison...

One thing though, the paint on the Cavalier cracked/peeled and it's obvious something was hit.
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: capt. apathy on March 22, 2005, 08:27:54 PM
quick guess-
  My guess would be somebody mis-judged her clearence while parking in a lot that has those little landscaping islands.  the ones that are surounded by a wall that is about 2 railroad-ties high.
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: Vulcan on March 22, 2005, 10:02:50 PM
Fools, I know what caused it

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a woman driver.

Thats all that needs to be said.
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: Saurdaukar on March 22, 2005, 10:15:50 PM
(http://militarysurplusstore.com/Merchant2/R5095L.jpg)
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: doobs on March 22, 2005, 10:57:51 PM
looks like it hit a parking spot concrete stop. notice how the paint is chipped on the very bottom of the fascia. its also right where the fascia brace is located. push that in and the fascia follows.
straighten the brace and the fascia will pop back out, but not totally. If that wasn't the case then second opinion was it was kicked.
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: Stringer on March 22, 2005, 11:01:42 PM
I believe she hit a jack-o-lope.
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: moose on March 22, 2005, 11:07:01 PM
i'm gonna try to borrow it and bring it back to my brother's garage this week and pull it out. i think its a 2004 or 2005, she just got it HB.. your estimate of between 500-800 bucks is just bout where I figured it would be

as long as it didn't wreck the actual bumper underneath then im sure fixing the plastic will be easy.

as to what caused it, i doubt it was the snow because i've literally been beating the crap out of my winter car ramming snowbanks for fun and ive never gotten any damage.. as for a concrete piling in a parking space, you would think that would leave some nasty scratches... from what she tells me, there's no real visible marks at all. the stuff at the bottom is probably dirt cuz she hasnt washed the damn thing in a month

ill take some better pics after i get ahold of it. if i can manage to pull that out she might end up being more then a friend :rofl
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: Stringer on March 22, 2005, 11:11:46 PM
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Originally posted by moose

ill take some better pics after i get ahold of it. if i can manage to pull that out she might end up being more then a friend :rofl


....And now we know the cause....Moose's boot :)
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: Lizard3 on March 23, 2005, 12:13:29 AM
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Originally posted by moose
if i can manage to pull that out she might end up being more then a friend :rofl


Of course, if you don't manage to pull it out, you may end up with a child support payment:D
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: moose on April 04, 2005, 11:42:51 PM
hey, i pulled it out using the blow dryer method pretty easily! ill post good 'after' pics tomorrow during the day

there is a little bit of evidence of the dent but most of it popped right back into place. gotta love plastic!

edit; nice call on the bolts too hb.. 10mm right out :)
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: Silat on April 05, 2005, 12:55:45 AM
Obviously that was caused by a Head on dweeb in a lala :D
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: Pooh21 on April 05, 2005, 05:54:20 AM
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Originally posted by Lizard3
Of course, if you don't manage to pull it out, you may end up with a child support payment:D
:rofl :rofl :rofl


edit: Nash forget the car in the background look at the funky angle of that sign!
Title: hblair/body shop owners - what could do this to this car?
Post by: Goth on April 05, 2005, 07:15:48 AM
Looks plastic with probably styrofoam underneath. Either push it back out, or if you are worried bout looks, go to a junkyard and find a replacement. I definitely wouldn't pay a mechanic to fix that at their rates unless it has done motor damage.