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Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: JB73 on March 23, 2005, 02:46:54 PM
after years and years of asking for this gameplay feature, i am curious how many use it?

myself: i used it offline 1 time, and in game one time to help mark a tiger, only to be complained about because the attackers kill-shot themselves on my pilot dude.

since then i have not used the feature in game. i have also not seen anyone in a "chute" running around capping peeps. i have heard of one squaddie who was trying to vulch one time, but that is all.


how about yourself? i am just honestly asking, as it was something so desperatly begged for in the 3+ years i have been here, with much debate on both sids of the argument.

Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: XrightyX on March 23, 2005, 03:10:42 PM
I've never bailed close enough to a town to hide in the maproom.  However in defending towns in a GV, I've seen  countrymen that have hidden in the maproom with their trusty 0.45.  If you fly LW planes do you get a Luger?

No film is circulating where people have killed troops, or is there?  Love to see it, LOL
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: plank on March 23, 2005, 03:14:49 PM
I don't see the use of bailing out at all. It's a much faster ride to the tower if you stick with the aircraft :)

I could see it being useful for goon defense but it's kind of unfair that they can't shoot back.
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: Octavius on March 23, 2005, 03:34:37 PM
I attempt to bail most of the time.  The ability to .ef while in floating down helps speed up the process if no opportunities to use the .45 exist.  I once hit the wing of someone attempting to deflate my silk on the way down; no apparent damage. :)
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: BigR on March 23, 2005, 03:37:39 PM
last week i bailed over an enemy base just as a b24 was coming in to land...right as he hit the runway we captured the base...i fired once at him, he ended the mission, and i got the kill =).
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: Ouch on March 23, 2005, 03:38:26 PM
I have 3 or 4  kills with the gun.

I had to bail out over an enemy base, and sat at the end of the runway.  I hit 6 or so planes as they were taking off, and several of them died later, giving me the kills.  

Was fun sitting by the runway, shooting at the canopy/Pilot and trying for an insta-kill.  Never got one, but will try again the next time I have to bail out over a base.

Ouch out.
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: hubsonfire on March 23, 2005, 03:59:52 PM
One of my squaddies was trying planejack, think he got some assists. Also had a capture attempt fail 3 times. We had no clue what was happening til someone piped up on 200 bragging about hiding the maproom. 1 Bomb later.... no trouble at all.

As far as films righty, troops still don't show up on film, and I'm not even sure chutes do.

As far as squealing for the sidearm to work, I don't think anyone realized the miserable trajectory the .45 would have (i was none too pleasantly surprised). I suppose the scale of the game lures us into thinking d200 is reaaaal close, but that 45 seems more like a mortar round the way it flies at that distance. Maybe if I could use my little silkchimp to climb up on the badguy's plane...

Grand Theft Auto V: Mindanao
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: JB73 on March 23, 2005, 04:02:06 PM
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Grand Theft Auto V: Mindanao
ROFLMFAO!!!1

scarily thats exactly what i think some younger member thought it would be with a handgun lol
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: Anchor on March 23, 2005, 04:07:05 PM
I've got a few kills vulching with the .45. Apparently, they have no idea where it is coming from. A couple of times I have .s saluted them (heheh) and got a private message like:

"wtf!!!. Cheating bastage....I'm calling..."

Tip. Get one round in the wing then one on the cowling. Then watch the fireworks...hehe.

BTW, its useless I think except for the laughter.

Skeeter0
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: eilif on March 23, 2005, 04:35:21 PM
if i were really really board i just might use the handgun, i would probably be seen running around with a .45 long before i ever sat in a gv tho.
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: baine1 on March 23, 2005, 09:02:42 PM
I managed to take out the gun in an m16. Got it on film. I kept plinking at the inviso-gunner until something flew out of the halftrack and it started to smoke.
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: tactic on March 23, 2005, 09:07:20 PM
Well so far I shot myself in the foot,  shot at a tree got bark in my eye,  saw a squirrel shot at it and it caught the bullet and threw it back at me hitting me in the other eye..  Lmao! it looks like a bb flying through the air!

Limping, blind I tried to run to the base because now the squirrel is chasing me, the squirrel passes me , flips me the bird says never to come back or he'll kick me butt .  Too bad this pilot guy Can Not run fast at All!   cant hardly tell difference between run and walk,  now you know why. He needs to be able to run faster then he runs now (real or not) to be fun.

Also a little upset because I thought for sure you'd have the option to hold the gun sideways like in the movies.   J/K

Its cool to have something to do if ya bail and wana hang out .. Should be able to reload on the hot pad  at any base  :)
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: Morpheus on March 23, 2005, 09:13:37 PM
I watched a squadie, Pirate, landing the other night while there was a chute in the middle of the runway. Before he could get stopped, the chute smoked his engine. LOL.

I've bailed out and sat at the runway spawn shooting pilots in the head. If your quick about it, and accurate, you can kill them.

I also had Wolfala and Hapstur hit me in my plane  with their 45 after quickly bailing out when I killed them.

Dam good shot to make on a plane doing nearly 300mph with a 45 auto lol.
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: Ratnick on March 23, 2005, 09:17:35 PM
On 2 occasions so far I bailed out over an enemy field and took out a manned ack. On another occasion I saw a guy next to me on the runway trying to shoot my plane. I tried to run him over and was disappointed when I couldn't chop him to pieces with my prop. I acutally saw and killed a guy standing near the map room waiting to kill our troops, it was pure chance that I looked over and saw him. I'll be making a point to look for the little fellas next time.

Not sure if I'm satisfied with the expolsion effect, maybe the head popping off like a tank turret would be better.
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: SFCHONDO on March 23, 2005, 09:48:18 PM
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Originally posted by plank
I don't see the use of bailing out at all. It's a much faster ride to the tower if you stick with the aircraft :)

I could see it being useful for goon defense but it's kind of unfair that they can't shoot back.


Actually depending on the alt your at, the bail out will get you to the tower faster. If I get toasted at 10K and my plane is floundering to the ground. I hit bail then type .ef and I am instantly back in the tower. No waiting on the plane to spiral to the ground.  As for using the .45 I tried it out when it was introduced, and have not touched it since.
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: Grits on March 23, 2005, 10:04:03 PM
One of my squaddies stopped a capture by bustin some caps in their troops as they came in.

And yes...he was holding the pistol sideways gangsta style. :)
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on March 24, 2005, 12:07:07 AM
The thing i see is not its usefullness now, but how the CODE and improvements may help aces high in the future.

Imagine spawning with a tommygun,or some german/jap weapon,and assaulting a town with some 250+ marines, and whatnot "AI"

Right now its just "finishing" something we always had, a pistol that never worked, so..at least it works now, altho its useless as all heck,but hey....its a pistol, not even a .30 cal machinegun or anything.

Some day,when we run our legs will move aswell. maby we will even have blood and death animations when being killed, vs the blowing up,part.
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: mechanic on March 24, 2005, 12:47:43 AM
just bail out over the town in the DA with some squaddies and have ground wars amoungst the houses> awesome fun
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: Waffle on March 24, 2005, 01:42:43 AM
I say open the doors on thecontrol  towers - if you can get into a tower or map room as a downed pilot - you should be able to get a  Submachine gun - then it could be fun :)
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: Slash27 on March 24, 2005, 03:18:13 AM
One of my squaddies stopped a capture by bustin some caps in their troops as they came in.

And yes...he was holding the pistol sideways gangsta style.

Liar Grits!!!!


I dont shoot gansta style:D


 Bailing out and capping enemy planes as they take off is highly entertaining. :aok
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: TrueKill on March 24, 2005, 03:39:52 AM
did it a few hours ago a spit5 uped and i poped him a few times and he towerd then a pony uped and i poped him a poof lol 8+ perks for a pony kill in a chute.
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: Jackal1 on March 24, 2005, 03:47:41 AM
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Grand Theft Auto V: Mindanao [/B]


:D  Classic.
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: wipass on March 24, 2005, 03:48:04 AM
what is the "fire" key, or do you have to map it ?

wipass
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: Jackal1 on March 24, 2005, 06:15:35 AM
Gotta map it.
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: JB82 on March 24, 2005, 07:56:44 AM
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Originally posted by hubsonfire


As far as squealing for the sidearm to work, I don't think anyone realized the miserable trajectory the .45 would have (i was none too pleasantly surprised). I suppose the scale of the game lures us into thinking d200 is reaaaal close, but that 45 seems more like a mortar round the way it flies at that distance.  


If you can hit anything at 50 yards with a real .45ACP you can enter professional competition.  I know a State Trooper who can put 6 out of 6 rounds at 50 yards in a 3-inch diameter and he's ranked 2nd in the State of South Carolina.  He uses a modified Gold Cup -not the military 1911 model like we have in AH.

P.S.  73, looking at what you have listed as your location I was wondering how many times you've been pulled over for DUI?  :lol
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: Lazerus on March 24, 2005, 09:04:56 AM
Ladson, huh?

I'm about 3 miles up the road from Northwoods Mall.
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: indy007 on March 24, 2005, 10:53:16 AM
Was cherry picking A4 last night and made the unfortunately familiar low-alt bail. For once I didn't go splat. So I ran to the end of a runway, and kinda stood there protesting violence in video games (aka, shooting pilots in the face). Nobody bothered to strafe me. I don't think anybody even noticed me.. standing in the open.. on a runway.. right next to spawning planes.. putting holes in their canopies.

I'm gonna have to say, while it's neat to have it, it's pretty useless. The only viable use is standing in a map room and shooting goons as they run in. If you could get something alittle beefier.. like a Thompson or Sturmweghr(sp?) and legitimately play as infantry, clambering over tanks & shooting through visor slits, it'd be awesome. Maybe we can one day, it *is* supposed to be a war simulator.. but until then, this little .45 is a novelty at best.
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: JB73 on March 24, 2005, 10:55:59 AM
has anyone ever gotten into a gunfight with an enemy pilot dude?

does 1 hit from the .45 kill you, or multiple hits?
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: indy007 on March 24, 2005, 11:06:07 AM
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Originally posted by JB73
has anyone ever gotten into a gunfight with an enemy pilot dude?

does 1 hit from the .45 kill you, or multiple hits?


Not yet but I'm willing to test it out. You can msg me in game, almost anytime after 4pm CST, indy07hb. We can meet in the DA or whatever.
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: Jackal1 on March 24, 2005, 11:41:17 AM
Hey, that`s good idea for the SEA.
This weeks in the SEA-----Gunfight At The OK  Corral. :D
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: Lazerus on March 26, 2005, 06:46:00 AM
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Originally posted by JB73
has anyone ever gotten into a gunfight with an enemy pilot dude?

does 1 hit from the .45 kill you, or multiple hits?


Hey 73, tell 82 that I live about 10 miles from him. That makes 4 AH subscribers within about a 20 mile radius here. I think I smell a mini-con/drink-a-thon comin on :D
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: Speznaz on March 26, 2005, 07:40:57 AM
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Originally posted by XrightyX
I If you fly LW planes do you get a Luger?


In soviet planes: Toakrev :-)
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: Karash on April 26, 2005, 03:30:34 PM
Is there a way for a downed pilot to jump on the back of a GV for the gunner seat (friendly of course) without having the ditched, killed, whatever message?
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Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on April 26, 2005, 03:55:35 PM
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Originally posted by Karash
Is there a way for a downed pilot to jump on the back of a GV for the gunner seat (friendly of course) without having the ditched, killed, whatever message?


No.  The only way to join a GV as a gunner is to use the "join" request, and I dont think it will work from anywhere other than the tower.
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: Karash on April 26, 2005, 03:57:50 PM
Ok thanks.

That would be a cool feature if a squaddie or another countryman would be able to pick you up in an M3 or whatever on the way to the town.
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: Overlag on April 26, 2005, 05:15:30 PM
not even binded the keys to move the guy

its the most useless feature of AHII
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: AmRaaM on April 26, 2005, 07:13:59 PM
i say bail out and be able to capture one of their field guns..not that would be interesting...at least for 10 mins or so....till boredom sets in.
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: Deth7 on April 26, 2005, 07:24:19 PM
Got my tail shot off at chasin planes around by a manned ack.
Bailed low, ran over  and popped manned ack like 8 times it popped. Bailed over town to kill troops also.
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: Ratnick on April 26, 2005, 09:25:43 PM
bailed out on a hill next to an osti - the guy that made me bailout.
I walked down hill to the osti and fired into the turret from above and took out the main gun. he ditched and I got a kill. bail out and you might be able to extract a bit of revenge.
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: x0847Marine on April 27, 2005, 06:29:40 PM
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Originally posted by Anchor

BTW, its useless I think except for the laughter.

Skeeter0


Yup.

The whole ground aspect of the pilot is pretty weak.

Esp if you've played any of the BF games 1942 or Nam. It is flat out fun to bail out near an enemy base as a sniper and pick em off with head shots... and those guys dont look like gumby walking with a stick up his sphincter preventing his legs from moving.

I'm not a programer and I don't play one on TV, so I cant comment on what a huge task it might be to get some BF "like" ground fighting into this game engine.
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Post by: Pooh21 on April 27, 2005, 06:37:46 PM
Ever play Mercenaries? think of the look on that LTARDs face when you flip up on his gun and chuck a grenade in his hatch.:eek: :rofl
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: Swarmed on April 27, 2005, 06:41:19 PM
Used it successfully one time when I bailed to defend a base. Shot most of the troops in the air, and then waited near the map room to shoot the next batch that showed up.
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: buzkill on April 27, 2005, 09:14:50 PM
i feel dumb after 5+ years of playin but how do you shoot the handgun:confused:
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: BlauK on April 28, 2005, 08:47:20 AM
You squeeze the trigger ;)

(I suppose you have to map it in in the joystick/keyboard mapper)
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Post by: thrila on April 28, 2005, 10:35:20 AM
I'm no expert, so can someone let me know how many pilots in ww2 took a sniper rifle with them.
Title: 1114
Post by: IownU on April 28, 2005, 12:23:49 PM
i was waiting for LTARDS to come up in this convo. the whole .45 thing i tried it a couple of times and shot a friendly both times now thats the fastest way to the tower. it a cool thing to have can see it comes in handy to kill troops but other then that na. and you got to get close enough to my osti to do that to me and why i got to be an LTARD i was starting to like LTURDS hehehehe :D
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Post by: TEShaw on April 28, 2005, 03:19:24 PM
It required two hits for me to kill an enemy chutist; but, I wasn't going for the  head shot. The text never said who I killed; but I guess he was pretty unhappy, because 30 seconds later his Spitfire pal straffed me out of existence.

TEShaw
Title: Poll: Use of the bailed out pilot handgun
Post by: DaYooper on April 28, 2005, 06:57:24 PM
I've shot troops on the ground defending the maproom.

I know Kaos1 has also killed troops on the ground and has shot bombers out of the sky as they flew by (If you don't believe me, go check the scores and you'll see he as 3 kills in a chute).

Killing bombers is unrealistic, but having a .45 on the ground is fun for those who want it and a non-issue for those who don't use it.

I'd like to see HiTech create LMG, MMG, HMG, Bazooka/Panzerfaust, Mortars etc and give the option of leading the troops from the M-3 or C-47 with commands like [pause],[advance to maproom], and [assault].

I see this doing 2 desirable things such as:
1) Creating pitched land battles that would cry for coordinated air support,
2) Creating more ground targets for the Jabo/Attack planes

For those who are against the .45, you can have it when you pry my cold dead fingers off of it.