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Title: It's a blue P38
Post by: sullie363 on March 24, 2005, 05:30:46 AM
(http://www.ww2guide.com/p38_6.jpg)

All I have is this picture.  No other information was with it.
Title: It's a blue P38
Post by: blue308 on March 24, 2005, 06:58:40 AM
id fly it just like the blu spit :D
Title: It's a blue P38
Post by: Nuke33 on March 24, 2005, 10:42:51 AM
If I were to guess, I'd say thats a grey p38 and the picture makes it look blue.. Just look at the puddles on the ground. I hope I get proven wrong though cause a blue 38 would be pretty cool..
Title: It's a blue P38
Post by: Shane on March 24, 2005, 12:14:59 PM
How's this for proof?  :D

recon version I think, notice no guns? :(



(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/170_1111688074_29-4-2002-9-13-p-38_lightning_flight.jpg)
Title: It's a blue P38
Post by: Guppy35 on March 24, 2005, 12:51:46 PM
Top one isn't blue.  It's the regular OD/Gray.  It's a P38F, assigned to the 56th FG, while they were stateside, before converting to Jugs if my memory hasn't completely failed :)

No blue fighter P38s, just recce birds.

Dan/CorkyJr
Title: It's a blue P38
Post by: SELECTOR on March 24, 2005, 02:16:44 PM
think the colour was called haze or blue haze .. but without checking i cant be sure..nice colour was only reccon
Title: It's a blue P38
Post by: Guppy35 on March 24, 2005, 02:36:11 PM
There was a haze paint scheme for the early recce P38s, before they went to the overall blue and then NMF finish on the later ones.

This is a haze scheme on an early recce Lightning.

Dan/CorkyJr
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/810_1108620998_haze38.jpg)
Title: It's a blue P38
Post by: Guppy35 on March 24, 2005, 02:39:58 PM
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Originally posted by Nuke33
If I were to guess, I'd say thats a grey p38 and the picture makes it look blue.. Just look at the puddles on the ground. I hope I get proven wrong though cause a blue 38 would be pretty cool..


THis is why the debate has raged for years about the NMF 361st FG P51s that had camo applied to the wings and top of the fuselage.  Lots of people will swear it was blue camo, but it was OD or RAF dark green.  The photos can be interpreted to make it seem like it was dark blue.

This of course makes no sense, as they were camo'd on top for D-Day and the low level work they were going to be doing.  Dark blue wouldn't have been much help over a green countryside :)

Dan/CorkyJr
Title: It's a blue P38
Post by: thebest1 on March 24, 2005, 03:13:31 PM
GUPPY IS ANYONE WORKING ON THAT ONE???
Title: It's a blue P38
Post by: Guppy35 on March 24, 2005, 03:33:17 PM
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Originally posted by thebest1
GUPPY IS ANYONE WORKING ON THAT ONE???


It's a "Photo Joe" Lightning.  No guns.  Not a fighter variant.  Might be fun to do for offline, but I'm fairly sure HTC wouldn't accept it, unless they let us have an unarmed 38 to fly recce missions :)

Dan/CorkyJr
Title: It's a blue P38
Post by: thebest1 on March 24, 2005, 03:50:37 PM
arrrrrrrg  lol
Title: It's a blue P38
Post by: killnu on March 24, 2005, 04:51:07 PM
the original pic has guns on it.  take it that is suppose to be some other color tho?
Title: It's a blue P38
Post by: Guppy35 on March 24, 2005, 04:59:44 PM
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Originally posted by killnu
the original pic has guns on it.  take it that is suppose to be some other color tho?


Nope, just the color in the photo being off.

It's a regular OD/Gray P38F

Dan/CorkyJr
Title: It's a blue P38
Post by: Wotan on March 24, 2005, 05:11:24 PM
Green is made up of blue and yellow. In old photos the yellow fades or washes out with age leaving the blue to show through as the more dominant color..

Here's a pic of II./JG27 109s. Notice the Rumpfbands as they appear blue. In real life they were green:

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/334_1111705673_bf109lineup-colour.jpg)
Title: It's a blue P38
Post by: Kweassa on March 24, 2005, 06:29:13 PM
So it would have looked like this?

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/232_1111710493_line.jpg)
Title: It's a blue P38
Post by: Wotan on March 24, 2005, 11:23:25 PM
yes but much of the colors in the entire photograph have faded. The camouflage colours should be 74/75/76.

You would need to mess around with the tones some more to get a more 'real looking photo.
Title: It's a blue P38
Post by: Widewing on March 24, 2005, 11:39:09 PM
The blue in the photo is a common problem with old Kodachrome negatives if not stored properly (keeping them refridgerated preserves them better than storing them at room temperature). Kodachrome film was also very sensitive to developer solution temperature deviations, and many war-time photos were developed in crude darkrooms without adequate care made for temperature.

My regards,

Widewing
Title: It's a blue P38
Post by: Widewing on March 24, 2005, 11:42:59 PM
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Originally posted by Guppy35
It's a "Photo Joe" Lightning.  No guns.  Not a fighter variant.  Might be fun to do for offline, but I'm fairly sure HTC wouldn't accept it, unless they let us have an unarmed 38 to fly recce missions :)

Dan/CorkyJr


Some of those "Photo Joe" guys were borderline insane.

(http://www.geocities.com/pentagon/quarters/9485/F5roll.JPG)

My regards,

Widewing
Title: It's a blue P38
Post by: Kev367th on March 25, 2005, 05:45:45 PM
That insane?

Seen a Vulcan fly inverted down the runway at RAF St. Athans at around 50ft.
Pilot got court martialled!!
Title: It's a blue P38
Post by: Pei on March 25, 2005, 05:54:16 PM
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Originally posted by Kev367th
That insane?

Seen a Vulcan fly inverted down the runway at RAF St. Athans at around 50ft.
Pilot got court martialled!!


Did he have nukes aboard as well?
Title: It's a blue P38
Post by: moot on March 26, 2005, 11:59:05 PM
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Originally posted by Widewing
Some of those "Photo Joe" guys were borderline insane.

Dream job if I've ever seen one!