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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: mussie on March 24, 2005, 03:46:10 PM
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Hey All
I was curious as to how many of you are real pilots
If you are, are you a private, commercial (including cargo) or military pilot.
And are there any veteran pilots here, I know that WWII pilots would all be around 80 so I assume that there are not any playing aces high, but what about other wars / military actions i.e. Korea, Vietnam ect.
Thanks all
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We had a former WW2 fighter driver flying in AW with us who still keeps in touch with many of us on an old AW NG. His name is Earl Miller.
Needless to say he's a hero to a lot of us. We built a scenario around him in AW so he could fly Jugs again, although it was more for us to say we flew Jugs with him :)
He had an AH account for a short time , but isn't flying that I know of anymore. He still flies Cessna 152s.
There was a thread started on him by Shane that I posted a lot of photos borrowed from Earl since he doesn't live that far from me and I've been able to visit a few times.
Dan/CorkyJr
Who flew Pipers and Cessnas while in High School, but never finished my license and haven't flown for real since the early 80s.
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=130900&highlight=Earl+Miller
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A Real WWII Pilot
How Frigging Cool
Thanks Guppy
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Also, we had for a short time a fellow who went by the handle "Stamper".
Flew Lancs I believe in WWII.
Flossy could give more info on his status though. She and Zeb helped him out with getting set up if I recall correctly.
Cheers,
RTR
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really biting my tounge not to spout off about my 500+ hours in P51D, The 364 hours in a p39..and the arrivals of my new rebuilt 262A1, 109 and 190 :) (you've seen the video of the Flugwerks 190? - Yup that's me - bought right after I flew it)
oh yeah - I got some Huey time too - about 7000 hours there....
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LOL Waffle.
:rofl
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I'm not a real pilot, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night....
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Waffle I assume that you are taking the piss :D
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I'm a real pilot, and I can't afford to stay at a holiday inn.
RTR
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Originally posted by Grits
I'm not a real pilot, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night....
I was smart enough not to waste my money on a Holiday Inn Express. I did steal towels from the pool of a Holiday Inn once though.
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Personally I prefer to steel the Pool from the Towels
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I own and fly a paraglider.
I have several pilot friends and beg rides. I have about 10 hours in my boss' Citabria. Got to fly a sailplane over Lake Tahoe recently as well. I've flown a Huey fire chopper too.
I don't have a pilots licence. I'd like to think I'm a pilot. If a newbie one at that.
g00b
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I work for the CIA and fly F15s...im making a game...anyone want in?;)
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opps double post:)
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It must be great to have a pilot's liscense. Imagine If you really had the wherwithal to load up and fly somewhere. I do not know how fast planes like a cessna go but they have to be faster than a car. You could fly to a place on a moments notice. That has to be cool
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Right now, I know of 3 pilots in the game who flew in the War, not counting the Lancaster pilot. Two of them flew in the same squadron and are P38 pilots, while the other was a Corsair pilot.
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there was a player that i haven't seen in a few months who flew with the handle Shac that I believe flew B26s in WWII. But I may be mistaken as a third party gave me that info.
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I got my private pilots lisence 2 years ago and haven't flown since. Medical bills from my Scorpian Bite wiped me out. I still have Sniping to fall back on though.
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I have been flying real planes since I was 17 and have prolly 17,000 hours in helicopters, gliders, seaplanes, most gen aviation from taildraggers to biz jets, and 18 years at a major flying B737s, and DC10s. Unfortunately, none of this experiernce makes me a better AH pilot. I was a helicopter doorgunner in Vietnam and still can't hit anything from AH bombers.
:D
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Private Pilot's license here also, got it in 1976. Most of my PIC time has been in Pipers and Cessnas, although, like a few others here, I also have over 5000 hours in a P-51, 7000 hours in a helicopter (of which about a third was instructor's time...). Why is it that so many of us have the same amount of time in the P-51?:D
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Originally posted by DAVENRINO
I have been flying real planes since I was 17 and have prolly 17,000 hours in helicopters, gliders, seaplanes, most gen aviation from taildraggers to biz jets, and 18 years at a major flying B737s, and DC10s. Unfortunately, none of this experiernce makes me a better AH pilot. I was a helicopter doorgunner in Vietnam and still can't hit anything from AH bombers.
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If I remember right DJ, back from when I was on the Mafia Email group still. You had some pretty wild pictures on final aproach in the tropics. If you still have them would you mind posting them here again?
Also Eagl I know flys a Fighter as we speak. I would kill to see some pictures from that hehe. :) If hes allowed to even take pictures?
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to all the lady’s and gentleman that sacrificed a part of their lives in reality, to what we now enjoy in the virtual world.
I had my T-shirt back ripped out (a first solo thing) in 1975 in a Pipper Warrior, then moved to King Air. Joined the Air Force and have flown in F4, 141, C5, C130, B52 and B36. My feet are steady on the ground now except when I get to fly with you guys.
spiker
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I am currently a CFII. I work for Aviation Atlanta based at PDK. I own a 1963 P35 Bonanza that I bought last year from a close friend that lost his medical due to pancreatic cancer. He died in dec. I plan on keeping this plane as long as I can. I loved this bird when he owned it. I jumped at every chance I could get to go up with him in it. We once flew from MTN to BTL to pick up parts for his old bi-plane he bought. That trip was so bad, we had rough weather most of the way there...I was a fairly new pilot with only around 400 hours or so under me. He fell alseep for a while there while I flew...I dont know if he trusted me that much...or maybe he was just really tired.
Anyhow last year I was looking into buying a plane. I was stuck in the 35-40K market and was looking at every 172 on the planet. I met John up at our local FBO. By this time he hadnt been flying for around four months or so. He asked me how much I was looking to spend, I figured he knew someone who knew someone, who was selling a nice 172 cheap. I told him around 35-40. Then he asked me how much I had to spend. I told him 37 really was my cap, but I could bend a bit.
He then did something that made my jaw drop. He asked me if I wanted to buy his plane. I quickly said I couldnt afford it. He told me give him the 37K. I laughed thinking he was joking. He went on to tell me it is just wasting away sitting there like that. So I bought it off of him. For about a quarter of what it is worth.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/234_1096048695_apr09-04.jpg)
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well, this morning i played golf with an 83 year old ww2/korea pilot. flew p-47's and f105/6's.
guy still hits his drives 240+ and shoots in 85-90's range from the middle tees.
nice guy, hope i meet him again since we're both members of the same club.
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Originally posted by Shane
well, this morning i played golf with an 83 year old ww2/korea pilot. flew p-47's and f105/6's.
guy still hits his drives 240+ and shoots in 85-90's range from the middle tees.
nice guy, hope i meet him again since we're both members of the same club.
what a great game to take up as adult.
Nothing like spoiling a nice walk through the outdoors, by looking for a white ball
Good luck with new addiction.
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Most I've done is fly a single-engine Cesna, not even sure what model. The only reason I didn't wet myself is there was a retired marine F-4 pilot with his feet on the rudder pedals and hands on the yoke the whole time. Somehow I knew that no matter what I did, he could have knocked me out and taken control. :)
The same gentleman dropped a map to me while I was on a canoe trip and desperately lost. A current harrier pilot literally hung out of the door of the same plane I flew a few days later and threw a ziploc bag at us with a map and directions, it only landed 10 feet away.
I always seem to have a good time when marines/retired marines are involved; man, those guys know how to have a good time.
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Originally posted by Redd
what a great game to take up as adult.
Nothing like spoiling a nice walk through the outdoors, by looking for a white ball
Good luck with new addiction.
i'm hoping in maybe 2 years to catch up and kick stang's ***...
:p
PWN!!
:aok
my game's coming along considering i just took it up seriously last fall ( I dabbled in it about 6 years or so for a casual round here and there, but stopped after about a year).
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Originally posted by plank
The same gentleman dropped a map to me while I was on a canoe trip and desperately lost.
Ummm. How do you get hopelessly lost on a canoe trip?
Scratch that. as the question is comming from someone who once went past his landing point by 7 miles. LOL
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i have 42 hours
6 hours solo
love flying ..if i could afford it..i would fly everyday....
cessna 152...cherokee....Baron...the n it goes ot the just a passnegr side..B17 and B24
Im really wanting to get soem aerobatic going..did about 1.5 hours of Ground school for loops..hammerheads and ect....then i broek my hand and got a bone graph..havent flown in 2 years now..suks
ill be back agaoin tho
Kegger..bueatiful ride there!!!,,sweeet
Aubrey..lol..not all general avaitions planes are faster then cars..
I would never bet you that this cessan 152 would beat your Honda to LA from San Fran...much more fun ..but..defntly not faster...by a big margin atleast
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I used to fly F-16s in the desert, until scorpion bit me.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Ummm. How do you get hopelessly lost on a canoe trip?
Scratch that. as the question is comming from someone who once went past his landing point by 7 miles. LOL
Well, I'll answer it anyway :)
The same one who dropped us the map is the one whom gave us the wrong map in the first place. The new map included an apology.
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Private pilot, instrument rating-taildragger, complex, high performance endorsements.
Bout 250 hours-some aerobatic stuff.
Have 20 hours as passenger in B17 (crewed for CAF) but no stick time.
Father flew B24's in WWII.
BTW-HT is a semi real pileit or pile of it.
Heater (who ocassionaly shows up), besided be a PUTZ is a former F15 driver.
LW
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HT has a VANS of some sort. I think I remember him talking about it a few years back when he was looking at GPS's. I went up in an RV-4 once, the stick was so light...like nothing I had ever felt before. I was impressed. Had a ball too.
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SEL, SES Instr. rated.
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Originally posted by Kegger26
I am currently a CFII. I work for Aviation Atlanta based at PDK. I own a 1963 P35 Bonanza that I bought last year from a close friend that lost his medical due to pancreatic cancer. He died in dec. I plan on keeping this plane as long as I can. I loved this bird when he owned it. I jumped at every chance I could get to go up with him in it. We once flew from MTN to BTL to pick up parts for his old bi-plane he bought. That trip was so bad, we had rough weather most of the way there...I was a fairly new pilot with only around 400 hours or so under me. He fell alseep for a while there while I flew...I dont know if he trusted me that much...or maybe he was just really tired.
Anyhow last year I was looking into buying a plane. I was stuck in the 35-40K market and was looking at every 172 on the planet. I met John up at our local FBO. By this time he hadnt been flying for around four months or so. He asked me how much I was looking to spend, I figured he knew someone who knew someone, who was selling a nice 172 cheap. I told him around 35-40. Then he asked me how much I had to spend. I told him 37 really was my cap, but I could bend a bit.
He then did something that made my jaw drop. He asked me if I wanted to buy his plane. I quickly said I couldnt afford it. He told me give him the 37K. I laughed thinking he was joking. He went on to tell me it is just wasting away sitting there like that. So I bought it off of him. For about a quarter of what it is worth.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/234_1096048695_apr09-04.jpg)
Cool story. I'll have a beer in your pals honour tomorrow,
The guy knew what he was doing, (as all good pilots do), now he gets to ride with ya every time you go up, I think that's really cool.
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This pic is really for Raider I was telling him the other day how I freaked my gf out with the throw over yoke..I was having a hard time explaining how it worked so here is a pic dude.
Btw I tried to get you to go up with me, but you never called me back..which is your loss it was an awsome day. I flew around stone mnt area for awhile with a buddy from work...maybe next time Chris.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/234_1096048729_apr09-05.jpg)
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Awesome ride Kegger. You are one lucky guy.
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I just hope Kegger never gets his doctorate, around here
those V-tails are known as "Fork-tailed Doctor Killers":lol
She does look pretty, been hangared alot?
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A classic beauty, Kegger. The guy who 'gave' it to you seemed like a classy guy too.
P.S. Lived near Stone Mountain for a while in the mid eighties. A lot of people in the Atlanta area take Stone Mountain for granite...
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Originally posted by Rolex
A classic beauty, Kegger. The guy who 'gave' it to you seemed like a classy guy too.
P.S. Lived near Stone Mountain for a while in the mid eighties. A lot of people in the Atlanta area take Stone Mountain for granite...
LMAO... Yeah John was a great guy. He flew for TWA back in the late 50s early 60s..the guy has drivin everything from 707's to 767s. He retired from TWA in the early 90s and started his own company. Nothing big just him going out to inspect houses. But it was enough for him to make enough money to keep up two airplanes and still have time for his wife and adopted son.
He was damn near deaf thanks to all those years near P&W enignes. So if you wanted to talk to him you had to talk pretty loud.
The first time I ever went up with him was a short hop up to THV from MTN. They have a great resturant on the feild there called Orville's. They have pretty good food, with even better prices...anyhow on our way back he was showing off the bonanza. He put the airplane onto it's side. At the time I was a VERY new pilot and wasnt use to the plane being upset like that...took me by surprise. Anyhow we turned south to W29, we were going to go look at this other guys C33. John was trying to help with something.
Anyways pre sept 11th the airspace over Baltimore was crazy...it still is today and add in a nice little ADIZ over the airspace for extra madness. That day the traffic was really heavy. We were making our way though it with out a problem..that has to be due to the fact I had a pro seating left seat over there...then it happened. The biggest friggin hawk I had seen in my life swoops up the right side of the aircraft. I can see it coming at us from below. Now at this second in my mind I am thinking yell bird..no dont yell bird just say it...but John cant hear well dummy so just yell it. Durring this moronic though process my mouth is trying to mumble the word "bird" Before I knew it I screamed "Bird two o'clock low!" into the headset, the plane banked really, really hard, at the same time I could feel myself getting pushed into my seat. I was reading a book John gave me at the time called "Flying the Beech Bonanza" by John C. Eckalbar. (A great, great book about the Bonanza lots of good tips for pilots) There is a chapter in there where he talks about the wing, stalls and accelerated stalls. How the plane makes a pounding sound nearly three times a second towards the back of the plane as it is about to break into the stall. In the copy John gave me to read this area was high lighted...before I could re-act the plane was back level and John was looking around fast at all the windows.
He asked me in a comment "I dont see any planes" I said a bird..then it hit me, I had been calling those 737s birds all day...the fact I screamed part out of fear, part out of stupidty he thought I ment we were about to colilde with a "Boeing bird". So he took what he though was going to be the best corrective action to save our hides.
We didnt talk for the rest of that 10 min flight. When we set her down and shut her off, he looks over at me and says "James you do know II have my hearing aids in my ears under my headset..so when you talk normal it sounds like your talking right into my ear. Dummy me never thought about it like that...we laughed it up. In fact the next week when I walked into our FBO I heard some knuckle head yell out Bubu-bird! then the four of them laughed like little monkeys hanging in a tree. We had a good laugh about it... Oh well those were good times.
-Keg.
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Originally posted by Rino
I just hope Kegger never gets his doctorate, around here
those V-tails are known as "Fork-tailed Doctor Killers":lol
She does look pretty, been hangared alot?
Yeah Mooneys have that rap too. Any plane can be deadly if you dont treat it right. I know pilots that dont even do a pre-flight on there aircraft. They just jump in start her up and take off.
I got a buddy like that. He owns a nice Cessna 310R. One day we were going to go up with him and his GF and me with mine. He started removing the tie downs from the aircraft and opened the door. With out asking him I started doing atleast a walk around.
I told him we need to check the fuel. He walked over to each fuel pin and let alittle fuel out of each of the four. I wasnt ok with that. I walked behind to the hanger where my plane is and grabed my tester. I checked only one tank before I proved my point. The left tip tank, AKA the left main tank on the Cessna 310. Filled my tester about half way with water. Two of the other three had water in them as well.
That is the kind of stuff that will get you killed. Quick. Sadly there are alot of these type of pilots floating around.
As for Beechcraft Bonanza's and Debonairs? They are fine aircraft. Walter Beech was a smart man. There is alot of proof of that when you look at a Bonanza. I mean here is an aircraft that made it's first flight in Dec 1945 and hasnt been changed much since. It is still around in the form of the A36 today. They are good solid aircraft. The airframes are amazing.
Seeing a early 60 models Bonanza is not as uncommon as seeing a 1960s Piper or Cessna? That has to say somthing. Over 17,000 have been built since production started in 1947. No other GA aircraft can hold this claim.
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a320, b767 still cant hit anything in AH though
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Yeah Bonanzas are sweet birds, although the new ones are
amazingly expensive. I get what you are saying about the kinds
of pilots though Kegger, sounds like you have your head
screwed on straight though :)
I remember a couple of years ago, I was out fueling in the
west tie down of MMU when I saw a V-tail attempting to taxi
out. He kept pouring on the power, but the aircraft wouldn't
move. Three times I saw the nosewheel come well off the
ground! He finally gets out to see what's wrong and notices
that his tail tiedown is still on, but by this time he's yanked it so
tight he had to cut the rope to free the aircraft.:rofl
Can't remember the guy's name, but the tail number was
N88AA and it ended up in a field somewhere after starving out
of fuel.
Watched a Yankee taxiing out with a cinderblock bouncing
merrily from the tail once, and this guy was a senior American
Airlines pilot with a part 141 flight school, so I guess everyone
has their bad days ;)
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There was also a ww2 c-47 pilot who flew in AW. Often he would spend his time resupplying bases in the game. I cant recall his name right now.
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gene?
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yea gene was his cpid, but I couldnt follow the format of Dan's post cuz I cant remember his real name.
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Originally posted by Shane
gene?
He died a year or two back didnt he? I seem to remember a tribute flight in C47s to him. For me it was a big deal becuase at the time I commanded the 434th Troop Carrier Group in the MA for the rooks. All we flew were goons.
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Originally posted by Rino
I remember a couple of years ago, I was out fueling in the
west tie down of MMU when I saw a V-tail attempting to taxi
out. He kept pouring on the power, but the aircraft wouldn't
move. Three times I saw the nosewheel come well off the
ground! He finally gets out to see what's wrong and notices
that his tail tiedown is still on, but by this time he's yanked it so
tight he had to cut the rope to free the aircraft.:rofl
The tail of the debs and bonz sit tail low when they are parked. I always tie the back tie down fairly tauht, so that should never happen to me. Since when you crank a Bonanza over the nose dips down a bit leveling the aircraft. If I left the tail tie down on...the nose wouldnt come down at all.
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I have had my PPL for 9 years.
Here is my wife and I with our plane at SunNFun two years ago.
It's a 1969 FR-172 Reims Rocket (Cessna License)
New 210 HP Cont. IO-360KB
STOL Kit
Aux Fuel for total of 70 gal usable
I fly about 100 hours a year for fun and business (and to escape hurricanes.. note where I live)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_57_1053176542.jpg)
Be nice we have been rough camping for 3 day
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_57_1067977848.jpg)
Just checking out a nearby lake
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Right now, I know of 3 pilots in the game who flew in the War, not counting the Lancaster pilot. Two of them flew in the same squadron and are P38 pilots, while the other was a Corsair pilot.
Wail's Uncle flew P-40's in the CBI, and Took a hop with the 412th in the Main Arena. Check out the 412th Website there is Pics and .ahf's.
Cobra412's Skin which is in Aces High, I cant recall the name of it to save my life though for some reason, Was his actual Aircraft.
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Originally posted by Scootter
I have had my PPL for 9 years.
I fly about 100 hours a year for fun and business (and to escape hurricanes.. note where I live)
You don't have to fly that long to escape Hurricanes - they're one of the slowest planes in the game, usually all you gotta do is dive away at full throttle and you'll quickly outdistance them:D
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Originally posted by SKJohn
You don't have to fly that long to escape Hurricanes - they're one of the slowest planes in the game, usually all you gotta do is dive away at full throttle and you'll quickly outdistance them:D
I second that tactic. It get's my seal of approval. See there SKJohn we are saving you time already.
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Commercial, Multi, SEL and SES, Instrument.
Currently co-pilot flying Super DC-3's (C-117D), and Beech 99's for TransNorthern.com
Own a '69 Cessna 172 with a 215hp Franklin, constant speed prop, wheels and floats.
ts
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How do those Super DC-3 handle? I have seen some with two engines and three engines. Also are they PT6 engines or what? I always thought they looked cool. I havent really stepped outside the GA area of aircraft. I would love to fly a DC-3 or C-119. That would be so great.
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Originally posted by Kegger26
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before I could re-act the plane was back level and John was looking around fast at all the windows.
He asked me in a comment "I dont see any planes" I said a bird..then it hit me, I had been calling those 737s birds all day...the fact I screamed part out of fear, part out of stupidty he thought I ment we were about to colilde with a "Boeing bird". So he took what he though was going to be the best corrective action to save our hides.
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-Keg. [/B]
Kegger...
When I read this you brought back a memory long wished forgotten I catagorize what happened to you as a "better safe then sorry" incident...
Back in the early 90's while working as a 135 crewmember/CFII trying to build hours I had a incident somewhat like you describe only it was not a hawk outside the window !!!!
I was flying right seat on a the return leg of a trip. We were coming back from western NY into Boston on a friday afternoon around 5:30pm (rush hour in the air for those of you that haven't had the pleasure of flying into what is now called Class B airspace... ie.. very very busy) in a cessna 340. Now I specify the aircraft type cuz it's a piston popper and them ATC guys get testy when they have to try and sequence one "of "THEM" into a sky FULL of "heavy's" but that's another story altogether !!
So here we were chugg'n in from almost the direct west just coming down throught 10,000ft on our way to 5,000ft (last instructions from previous controller) and a frequency change with instructions to contact approach..... have a nice day... ect...ect.. with descent started and freq changed...oh.. and also told to maintain 250 throught out (250kts is max speed below 10k for those that don't know) descent yada.. yada.. yada..
Long story short here... on new freq trying to get word in edge wise that we are now "with" the new controller on his freq..... 9k goes by.... still can't get check in with new controller.... 8k gone... still can't get check in.... (controller SO busy giving instructions to aircraft in his area of responsibility he's talking RAPID fire for over what seemed like 5 min) finally coming thru 7k I was able to fire off cessna xyz with you passing 7 for 5....
What I got was a quick acknowlegement followed by what had to be another 5 min of rapid fire calls to all the other poor souls who happened to be stuck in that chunk of airspace that day...
Soooo.... here we are lvl @ 5k boring damn near straight into boston at rush hour.... no other instructions were coming.... (this is very UNusual as we should have been being sequenced with the other traffic) I was discussing this peculiar situation with my fellow pilot and what we should be doing... (still can't get word in edgewise with the controller) when the call comes.......
There is something instinctive you hear but can't see.... the tone of the controllers voice said it all.....
CESSNA XYZ IMMEDIATE LEFT TURN !!!!!!!!
Being in the right seat my reaction was to look right.... my fellow pilot who was at the controls cranked over (into left turn) on the yoke so hard I damn near banged my head on the window... there outside my window... almost close enough to touch.... was rivits and aluminum.... we were close enough that I distinctly remember seeing the rivits and the black streaks of oxidation running down the aluminum underside of a climbing 727.....
It was all over in seconds.... we were clear.... we were alive and all that was left was the pounding of your heart as the realization of what just happened sinks in....
The saddest part...... this is NOT the closest I've been to a mid-air !!!!!! that too is another story.....
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Man I am so glad I havent came close to a mid-air yet. I am a nut about keeping a look out for other traffic...again I have friends who seat the autopilot then read a magazine...I would never think of doing anything like that..
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CFI/CFII/MEI around 850 hrs.
I've had a couple close calls. One I never saw but was concerned none the less when a center controller descended a G-IV in front of me in a Mooney M20J flying from Palm Beach, FL to Columbus, OH. I'd been in the clouds for about an hour and in pretty good precip for about 10 minutes. His voice became abrupt as he called out a traffic alert, I peered out the window which left me with just enough visibility to barely see my spinner and rain streaking back on the windscreen. I reply "I-M-C" and the G-IV says I'm on TCAS and its one of those times when the TCAS says one thing, the controller says another. The G-IV listened to their magic box and kept up a descent and I just crossed my fingers. An absolutely helpless situation for me to be in. I didn't like it.
I had another time when flying traffic survey in a yellow 172 with a smiling sun wearing shades on the nose and tail. I was orbiting an accident in Columbus just south of Polaris parkway on the Interstate 71/270 split. I was setting up to roll out back on 'the route' which is a bit of an offset figure 8 and just as I rolled wings level in front of me was one of Ohio States 152s. I could see the smurfy paint scheme, the little black 3" numbers on the back signifying which "buckeye" it was and the left seat pilot had blue Telex headsets. I'd come out of my turn inside 100 yards behind the 152 and was closing. I diverted right about 30 degrees and called Ohio State tower asking if they'd like to inform me of any traffic in the area. Turns out the 152 had not turned on his transponder and State Tower's radar didn't even have them as a primary target 7 miles from their airport.
I've done some other things that in hindsight were less than perfect ways to ensure longevity in life...but they were fun none the less and never felt out of control. I do not condone these actions and in no way encourage others to attempt them on their own :)
For instance:
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/621_1111822002_lowbank172.jpg)
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Originally posted by Golfer
I had another time when flying traffic survey in a yellow 172 with a smiling sun wearing shades on the nose and tail.
For instance:
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/621_1111822002_lowbank172.jpg)
That reminded me. I DID have a close call with a Yellow 152. I was making an approach into W29, when I hear over the radio "Cardinal XXX going around"....in my mind I start looking for a Cessna 177. I am just passing over the bay bridge. For those of you who have never been to W29 the bay bridge is right in the middle of the pattern. If you have Microsoft's Flight Sim 2004 it is in there, just start from W29. Anyways I start looking for this 177 who says he is going around, I look just to my left and there is a Yellow 152 on final..or so I thought. I didnt give him another look, I insted am still trying to locate the "177". I bank over to the left just a bit dipping my left wing to see if he is starting to turn base below and behind me...then it hit me...that 152 wasnt on final...he was on departure! He was doing touch and goes. Not only was he in the pattern incorrectly, but he wasnt even identifying himself correctly. I rolled over to my left a bit and climbed.
I had enough room to get her down. I shutdown and watched him land this time facing the correct way....as it turns out this guy is a student over at the Naval Acc. He is up in this old beat up 152 from Lee County. In his defence he said he had been flying his dads 177 so much it was just in his head...This happens to me sometime...I have anwsered back to ATC more than once "Five Niner Fox, roger, contact on XX.X" 59F is a buddys 210 I fly alot...So I can see how that could happen. In truth we were pretty far from hitting one another..it was late sunday afternoon so the feild was pretty much dead...so harm no foul.
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Closest thing I've had was when we were shooting a practice approach into Sugarland (Houston)-we were on the backcourse to 35 (Sugarland has one runway). Controller-"737Hotel Charlie cleared to land 35"...da da da da...so we scream along at 90 kts in the 172 -fortunately we were paying attention. Controller comes back on-"Gulfstream 34Mike cleared to land 17 "...The guy with me and I both got whiplash turning to look at each other-checking with controller they asked us if we would mind aborting our approach. Always listen to the radio ;>
LW
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Last year in I almost cut off a Challenger... He was flying into an un-controlled field, he got on the unicom and said "xxx five mile on final straight in" He didnt give his aircraft type. My buddy Brian and I looked to our left and made out a CAP 172 out in the distance..he didnt look five miles but heh you never know with them CAP pilots ;). Anyways Brian and I were about to turn base and decided to do so ahead of "that knuckle head CAP pilot that called a five mile final". I took one more look to my left and there she was a big old Falcon 900 screamin down the way. It wasnt a close call, but it could have been.
Once we got down Brian got out and headed inside the FBO alittle upset...rightly so it was his aircraft we could have just bent up. (A sexy 1963 B-33 Debonair). I am not sure what all was said, but when I walked into the FBO I heard some very loud voices in the pilots lounge. I heard one pilot say to Brian "well next time look alittle harder, were a lot bigger plane that you are. Were not that hard to see" Anyone who has flown can tell you..it cant be hard to spot a plane sometimes. More so at five miles on a cloudy day. Some of those corp pilots are some of the most arrogant pilots in the sky. Not all of us have TCAS in our planes. Well I do now so naner, naner, naaneer.
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Heck, all that 500 hours in a 51 stuff is b.s.
I have 499.5 hours in a spad XIII, and 7000 general hours in a lockheed Vega. Oh, almost forgot, I was the top turret gunner in a huey back in 'nam and korea.
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Lears look realy big on a straight in approch when your at base to final turn, and they are on the wrong freq.
HiTech
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Nice little thread here.
Yes I was bit by the bug bout 5 years ago.
Currently I fly a CRJ-700 for US Airways.
Hope to upgrade to Captain a couple more years.
Got me's an ATP (airline transport pilot) cert. with 1st class medical.
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Got my tickets as follows....
2000 - PPL (private pilots license)
2001 - INST (instrument rating) (to fly in clouds, weather, etc etc)
2001 - COMM (commercial rating)(to fly for $$$)
2002 - MULTI COMM (multi engine commercial rating)
2003 - 135 Checkout (for charter flying)
(was flying twin Cessna's)
2004 - ATP (airline transport certificate)
2004 - Hired By US Airways
2004 - SIC Checkout CRJ-700
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Long fediddlein' road to get here but worth it.
2000 TT (total time)
Attached is a pic of the flightdeck!
WOOHOO so many buttons, so little time!
AHHHH!!!!
I'm in the red!!!!!
ANYONE have any questions on aviation or want advice feel free to post them here and I'll do my best to answer !!!!
<<>> to all u's aviators out there
(http://www.aerospace-technology.com/projects/crj700/images/img6.jpg)
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Have about 127 hours total time, i think about 75 or so as PIC. almost all in cessna 172N, but most recently been flying 172P with 180 horse conversion. Have about an hour in a Schweizer CB300C...only a training copter, but incredible fun!. then about 1/2 hour in a super decathalon, and about 1/2 in a cherokee, and an hour in a Diamond Eclipse. I like the cessnas a lot..they perform nicely, and are very forgiving if ya make any small mistakes. The diamond was about the most fun though....almost feels like your in a fighter....a slow fighter(only around 110 cruise) but very nice and light feel on the controls.
CYALL!
john
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Super Decs are great little planes. I have around 12 hours in one. They are just a blast to fly.
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Kegger,
c'mon man!!!!! i'm already jealous......that's makin it worse!!
btw...love the pic of the low pass!! until recently, i've never done that....the only time i was near the ground was on the way down to land, and on the way back up to get away from it. was flying a 1962 172 with a buddy, he wanted to to go to pemberton(a small 1800 ft grass strip in south jersey).....on short final, we realized the runway was too soggy, so we throttled up and simply did a low approach. Whatarush!! although i won't make a habit outta it....i'm 43 and wanna see 44.
happy flyin,
john
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Originally posted by Kegger26
Yeah Mooneys have that rap too. Any plane can be deadly if you dont treat it right.
Yr getting your facts mixed up. Mooney's have a bad rap for being difficult in landing because of the pilot sitting so low, like in a Porsche.
As far as pilots killing themselves in them, the V-tail doctor killer takes the award for cracking up inflight. Truth be told, the M20 series has the best record for inflight breakup's of any type over the last 40 years - never mind when they tested the wing the jack broke at 9G's and the wing was still ticking.
S!
Wolf
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Originally posted by Kegger26
Yeah Mooneys have that rap too. Any plane can be deadly if you dont treat it right.
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Yr getting your facts mixed up. Mooney's have a bad rap for being difficult in landing because of the pilot sitting so low, like in a Porsche.
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Missed that earlier. I've never ever doubted the structural integrity of the M20J 201 I have around 100 hrs in. That airplane has been nothing but solid and with proper airspeed management a landing using under 500ft of pavement is not unattainable.
My only gripe is I can't sit in the thing for a long long time at one stretch. The airplane's legs are longer than mine before I need to stretch mine. I like 3-4 hr legs in the Mooney which is about 1/2-2/3 the fuel on board. When you sit in it, its like a sports car as Wolf mentioned. The instrument panel is on your lap and it takes a minute to adjust even if you're familiar with the airplane. Aside from that...all around great airplane and if you look down the wing just right...you can easily place yourself in a P-51 if only for a moment :)
The "float" that Mooney's have a rap for comes from guys not knowing how to fly them properly. In the M20J if you want a smooth landing 81 knots is your Reference speed on final until the runway is made. Pull off the power when 50 feet off the ground, gently flare and they land like a dream. Thus far, my favorite and if I may say easiest airplane to land. You will run out of rudder in a crosswind though, with the very low wings and the not-much-of-a-rudder you'd better be on your game if you want to fly with a crosswind component of around 15 knots.
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I have an CFI, MEI and ATP license and flew Barons, King Airs and Lears for a 135 operator and Dh-8s for US Airways
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Originally posted by Wolfala
Yr getting your facts mixed up. Mooney's have a bad rap for being difficult in landing because of the pilot sitting so low, like in a Porsche.
Well thanks Wolf...but I dont think I stated a fact. Just an opinion.
That being said if I were to go into fact's it could be pointed out that Mooneys have far higher fatality rate than that of the V-tail. I would also like to point out that the V-tails have been in production far longer than your M20 Mooneys. So the fact is...Mooneys do have a rep for being unsafe planes when it comes to crashing. Any plane can be unsafe if the pilot isnt safe himself/herself first. Doesnt matter what you fly As for my V-tail? It is fast, safe and sexy. Thats enough for me.
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That being said if I were to go into fact's it could be pointed out that Mooneys have far higher fatality rate than that of the V-tail. I would also like to point out that the V-tails have been in production far longer than your M20 Mooneys. So the fact is...Mooneys do have a rep for being unsafe planes when it comes to crashing.
So does a 172 if you're using that logic. Come to think of it, I can't think of any airplanes that were speicifically designed to crash.
Have any stats on the accident rates? I think you'd find that per 100,000 hours Bananas aren't doing that well.
Air Safety Foundation Mooney Review (http://www.aopa.org/asf/asfarticles/sp9510.html)
As usual, we find pilots causing the accident about 75 percent of the time with Mooneys –virtually the same as with the other retractables. The Mooney comes out slightly better, with about six accidents per 100 registered aircraft versus 7.7 percent for the comparison group.
Mooneys suffer very few in-flight breakups, even when the pilot doesn't maintain control. The result is sadly the same as with other aircraft; it's just that all the Mooney's pieces are found in one spot
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Originally posted by Kegger26
Well thanks Wolf...but I dont think I stated a fact. Just an opinion.
That being said if I were to go into fact's it could be pointed out that Mooneys have far higher fatality rate than that of the V-tail. I would also like to point out that the V-tails have been in production far longer than your M20 Mooneys. So the fact is...Mooneys do have a rep for being unsafe planes when it comes to crashing. Any plane can be unsafe if the pilot isnt safe himself/herself first. Doesnt matter what you fly As for my V-tail? It is fast, safe and sexy. Thats enough for me.
OK,
Kegger,
My experience with the Bonanza is as follows. 200 hours in the A-36, 100 in the V-tail doctor killer - 300 + in the Mooney 201 - Ovations. So, perhaps a few 'observations' only - instead of facts.
The Bonanza was designed 'post war' with very light controls - so a pilot transitioning from say a P-51 would feel right at home. Point the nose down, it picked up a lot of speed and had a phenominal rate of roll. Its docile to a fault - and now for the faults:
Faults -
The Fuel System:
The fuel system is completely ****ing retarded. You have a lot of time in type - I assume, so you have 3 settings. Off, High, Low - either of which can kill your engine if you don't know the intricies. I dunno about you, but the cockpit load is high enough when in hard IFR on departure, having to worry about the engine taking a massive **** because of too much fuel getting metered from the pump being in HIGH instead of LOW position - thats just a bad design that got grandfathered along with - what is otherwise a good 6 place aircraft.
The V-tail:
I cannot find a single reason for this being good engineering, aside from the fact they wanted to eliminate another vertical surface inorder to reduce the overall drag of the aircraft. The simple fact is if you lapse in attention, you find yrself diving - and a pilot new in type - or just scared ****less will overstress on pull out. The problem is as much the pilots fault as the aircraft design since the control forces remain fairly uniform from low - high speeds increasing the likelyhood of cracking pieces off in a high speed pullout.
The Mooney was built as a direct response to the Bonanza - and actually was built by the same designer of the V-tail in response the inflight crackup's. So, the anecdote that Mooney's were 'overbuilt' is as much an anecdote as it is fact. Like the ASF overview stated - VERY few inflight breakups. I am not at home in California and I have the full ASF packet with the statistics on both Bonanza and M20 as well as 210 accident statistics that I could rattle off - but the simple fact is they do not crack up midair.
Faults -
They do not like to slow down. The result is pilots by not planning try to force the aircraft to the runway if they do not fly the numbers. Landing over 70 knots IAS will almost certainly force you into a wheel barrow situation down the runway.
Stiff controls - A double edged sword. Your wrists get a workout and the fatigue level goes through the roof unless you are a 14 year old hopped up on viagra with the wack off muscles at full capacity. The plus side is a very stable IFR machine that won't wing over if you sneeze like the Bonanza.
Comparisons -
The Bonanza is a 6 place aircraft that is a heavy hauler. The M20 is a 4 place. The Bonanza can hum along at 150 at around 16-18 gph with a reasonable range of 400nm. The Mooney can cruise at 165 on 40 % less fuel and still book in at 400 nm.
Both aircraft are built for speed - but have drastic differences in missions they were designed for.
You like Bonanza's b/c it is what you are proficient in. I like Mooney's b/c my wing did not seperate when I hit a sea-gull while doing 200 around Ellis Island and the Statue of Liberity yesterday with my father riding in the right seat.
1 is designed like a tank. The other is a docile wannabe fighter that depends on constant vigilence and proficiency and risk management on the PIC.
2 different worlds - 2 completely different missions and capbilities.
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See...I feel the Bonanza's are built like a tank. As for that fuel issue you stated I have never had a problem like that in mine. I kick my fuel pump on high for start up for seven seconds. Then it goes to low and that is where it stays. This is why I follow a check list. It gets ran over again when I am on the run up ramp. I have yet had to change that setting in normal flight. So I am not sure why you have a problem with it.
The model I own is not the same as the model you have hours in. The A36's suffer from far greater CG problems than say my P35. Which is a four place aircraft. Not six or five like the A36. I have an IO-520 that puts out 285 horses. The A36 you flew could have been a TC bird requiering you to change your fuel flow setting. I am not sure...but the bottom line is it has always been a non-issue with me.
As for the flawed design of the V-tail, I tend to disagree. V-Tails got a bad rap and in 1982 they stopped making them. When it comes to saftey the V-Tails are no worse than an aircraft with normal surface's.
Truthfully I think V-Tails just freak some pilots out. It is not normal. Pilots are creatures of habit, and to fly a V-Tail takes a little diffrent way of thinking. They have there corks...we get alittle bit of that yaw back there at high speed. I dont recall the numbers on the lat movement that is going on back there..but in truth this happens with all the Bonz/Deb models. All you have to do is keep alittle presure on the peddles and this will solve some of the problems. It really isnt much of a problem though..unless your pax get sick from it. But as the pilot up-front I hardly even notice it. Haveing one less surface out there does speed the aircraft up. No one will ever tell you a V-Tail is slow. This it is not.
I know the Bonanza have a bad rap for there CG problem. This can be solved with slats in the wing. I did this to mine, as well as I had the old wingtips removed and replaced with newer ones like on the F33's. Since then I havent really had a CG problem in my aircraft.
You just need to drive a V-Tail for awhile you will find you love it. I am a life time member of the ABS and I dont think I can recall any pilot who has flown a V-Tail for any real length of time saying he didnt like them. They are not set it and forget it planes like a cessna. You DO have to fly a V-Tail.
If you are ever out in Atlanta let me know I will take you up in mine and maybe convert you from what I feel is a backwards way of thinking. Flying a V-Tail sometimes feels like being a mac owner in a sea of PC users...now I know how they feel.
http://www.aopa.org/asf/publications/beech_bonanza.pdf
http://www.bonanza.org/
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Originally posted by RTR
Also, we had for a short time a fellow who went by the handle "Stamper".
Flew Lancs I believe in WWII.
Flossy could give more info on his status though. She and Zeb helped him out with getting set up if I recall correctly.
Yes, it's a while since I heard from Stamphord "Stamper" Metcalf, but I believe he still plays AH, mainly offline. Last I heard he was getting over a knee replacement operation, but is as keen as ever on flying his Lancasters. :D
Back in AW, there was a guy going by the CPID of Alta, but I don't think he ever came to AH. I do, however, have a copy of an article which featured him in the New York Times which you may find interesting. I am still in touch with Ezra "Alta" Howland, and received another email from him just this morning. :)
New York Times article (http://www.flos.clara.net/storage/Ezra_AWIII_NY_Times.html)
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Twin Cessna 310 models also have a irregular fuel system. Lots of people actually run the tanks dry because of misproper management.
When using aux tank fuel, all the bypass extra fuel will be returned to the tip (main) tanks and not the aux tanks.
Therefore many pilots dont believe their gauges as the aux tanks fuel needle dives towards "empty" quickly.
What is actually happening is the excess fuel is being dumped out the vents from the tip (main) tanks and fuel is LOST.
This happens only when tip tanks are full or close to full and aux fuel is used. Proper fuel management for the 310 when aux and main tanks are full is to run down tip (main) tanks about 1/2 way and then use aux fuel. By the time your are done with aux fuel the tip tanks will be full again.
Anyway just an FYI !!
Maybe it'll save someone someday!
Sharp
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My husband, Zeb (Bob in RL) took his PPL in 1988, finally realising an ambition he had had for many years. I don't have any piloting experience at all apart from online in AH and formerly AW. I spend my days sitting behind a desk working as a Secretary. :)
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Real and real...;-)
+300 hours total, 210 hours aerobatics(maybe 600-700 aerobatic "sorties").
Started long time ago, but had 3 years off, now 3rd year back on business after plane(Pitts S1-SS) rebuilding. When i started aerobatics, i had 72 year old teacher who has over 500 hours in 109G..... He is still alive, but nowadays around 83-85 years old, living 2 km`s from my home.
puujiikoo
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When I was first taking my PPL, my usual instructor, ( a great story on his own, i'll tell someday), was away on vacation and I had a rookie fresh off the board rookie instructor.
Well we were coming into the circuit via the crosswind leg in a 172. He had control. We were a little high and a little fast, he noses down for the downwind leg does a sharp 40 deg. turn with throttle down to enter downwind at proper alt. All goes fine, for us.
We hear over the radio another instructor prepaired for takeoff warn us that we just struck an ultralight...I didn't hear anything, nor did the instructor. When we land this dude with his JClarkes still on his head, wire dangling and a bloodied up face starts chasing around the instructor....it woulda been freakin hillarious , if it weren't so serious.
So i come to the aid of my instructor and ground the angry dude till he relaxes. It turns out we didn't hit him, but missed him by maybe a couple of feet. When my instructor nosed down during the turn, the ultralight was at proper alt and already on the downwind leg, oops. So the ultralight cops a facefull of dirty air , does two rolls, regains control just in time to pull up and do a slam landing in the grass strip adjacent to the tarmac. Busted up his plane , and his nose, so ya know why the dude was so mad. And I might add, if that ultralight guy wasn't 10 times the pilot my instructor was, this would have been a fatal accident.
Needless to say, that instructor had to find a new school to instruct at.
I bet that ultralight dude is just happy he doesn't have to sit in the big Officers Club in the sky and tell the story of how his pilot days came to an end by the 'propwash' from a Cessna 172.
fellow fliers, stay safe.
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Well, this emphasizes what the CFI's from CAP have been workin with me on.....I've had my PPL for about 2 years, but the CAP guys won't turn me loose to solo in their 172's yet.......I've been flying with them for a few months now and am finding out all that my previous CFI DIDN'T teach me. And he was CFI, CFII, multi engine, and rotorwing too. Next time i'd listen to friends better.
The above mentioned way to enter the patern is one of the most dangerous ways to enter. We always enter from the 45 degree angel, and NEVER enter above pattern alt. The above is also the exact scenario that Bob used as an example. Using the 45 entry, you can see the entire downwind leg, the crosswind and the base.....and its very easy to check the 45 for the wrong runway...which saved us from a close call a couple of weeks ago as the active was 08, and there was an archer on 45 for 26 at VAY.
Anyway, for those still working towards your PPL........if you're REMOTLY in doubt of what your CFI is teaching, try another......I wish i had.........in a few months, i've learned more than in the previous 3 years of flight. Best part is my crosswind landings......never was good at em, as AGAIN, my previous CFI would cancel out on windy days.......now crosswinds are smooth and pretty.
Anyway, safe flying all!!!!!
john
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Wow, Airbumba.
It always amazes me that we have low time pilots who instruct. These guys aren't even comfortable with their own abilities yet really.
A question though. Was the ultra light NORDO?
RTR
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Originally posted by RTR
Wow, Airbumba.
It always amazes me that we have low time pilots who instruct. These guys aren't even comfortable with their own abilities yet really.
A question though. Was the ultra light NORDO?
RTR
No, he had a set. In the meeting with the MOT, the ulra light said he made the required call on the MF for that uncontrolled airport at the 5 mile radius. But there was a disagreement as to whether he made a second call when entering the start of his downwind leg.
I never heard a call, but it was only my 5th hour of flying, and I wasn't PIC, so I mighta missed it for sure. He was so slow, that if the only call made was way out there at 5 miles, it woulda been quite bit before I was paying attention, remember I'm supposed to be the rookie here, not the instructor. Since then I was tought to pay attention from wayyyy out when coming into an uncontrolled airport.
I also think language played a role. Quite a few misshaps in Quebec airspace around uncontrolled fields, due to the fact that most pilots speak french when flying . The ulralight was a french speaking guy, and my instructor was Sri Lankan, with a heavy accent. I don't think the ulralight heard , or understood his call about entering via crosswind, nor would he have expected us at our alt and speed.
And yes, too many instructors are just there for their 'hours' and itching to go onto bigger better things, when they should be solely concentrating on 'teaching' us newbie's, who just want a PPL and want to learn properly. I hope he isn't flying heavies in Sri Lanka now, yikes.(wonder if i can check that?).
That ultralight was a cool little thing. The type with a pusher prop and two dudes can sit side by side, and the doors can come off. I don't know the name of it, but it survived that hard, hard landing kinda intact. He dug into the dirt and I think he had a roll out of 10 ft. on that landing. I'm surprised he didn't bust his back.
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Originally posted by RTR
Wow, Airbumba.
It always amazes me that we have low time pilots who instruct. These guys aren't even comfortable with their own abilities yet really.
A question though. Was the ultra light NORDO?
RTR
Most of the time those guys are only doing the CFI thing so they can build time. Those type of pilots are on the airline path. That is why you have three hundred hour pilots sitting right seat as a CFI. Most of these guys cant even get insurance on an airplane if they owned one with so few hours...it is sad really.
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I was once a 400 hour wonder CFI and I learned way more about flying that first year instructing than the day I started the job, BUT I was a good instructor. I ended up with a CFI Airplane - Instrument- Single & Multi, and CFI Helicopter - Instrument. I did burn out on instructing that year with over 1200 hours of mostly advanced instruction as the Korean vets were losing their VA flight school benefits. The most fun was giving aerobatic instruction in a Great Lakes replica ( open cockpit Biplane complete with flying helmet and goggles). Now, 17,000 hours later I have no desire to ever instruct again and have let my CFI ratings expire.
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Air traffic Controller and now Air Traffic Manager for the past 23 years, started out in the Air Force and am currently at the home of the F4U Corsair, Bridgeport Connecticut (BDR).
I am also a student pilot, have been since 1998...lol, started my training in Athens Georgia (AHN) am finally finishing up in the next month or so at BDR. Started in the C-150, C-172 and PA-28 and now completing my training in the Grumman Tiger AA-5 (Wolfala started my training here before he moved to California). It seems ATC takes up too much of my time and I miss flying for a month or more and have to back-track to catch up to the learning curve again. In the time I have been flying me and a friend of mine restored a 1969 M-20C which we took to Sun & Fun in Florida, got some instruction in an R-44 helicopter, right seat time in a Citation C-550, aerobatic instruction in a Pitts S-2, and an hour flight in a B-17 (the 909). I fly any chance I can get.
I also feel that all Controllers should have a private pilots license, it has improved my ATC techniques immensely.
BTW, anyone near Connecticut that wants to see the Corsairs come home should check out this site...http://www.veteranssalute.org. We are going to have 9 F4U's come home to BDR June 3rd-5th.
TwrATM
Rob
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I have SEL IFR - about 500 hours - and was working on my Commercial and CFI when I discovered Confirmed Kill. My interest in real time flying went down hill from there.
Back in the day, I got a ride in a Harvard T6 including a full aerobatic demo of loops, rolls, 8's, Cuban 8's. The guy let me try a few rolls on my own - fun stuff. "Look at your rate of climb indicator..." (We are going down at > 4k per minute) "I suggest that you pull back *gently* of the stick..." This guy also owns a P51 (saw it in his hanger and saw him race it at Reno) - no I cant remember the name of the plane but he gave me a t-shirt ;) I may have to look in my closet.
My girl friend's father completed 25 missions in B24 and B17's and got rotated back to the states in '42-43 WW2. He was the tail gunner.
I have met 2 people who have survived mid-air collisions. One guy had a plane come up from behind and literally cut his 172 in half just behind the front seats. The 2 people in the back seats died but he and the other passenger in front lived. The S&R folks thought that there was no way anyone survived when they found the wreckage - then they saw him waving at them. He was flying for Fed Ex when I met him 12 years ago.
The other person was a passenger in her father's Bonanza and they had another plane stike the top of their plane with the landing gear -- I seem to recall that it happened at night - been a while since I heard the story. Relatively minor damage - guess they kept flying.
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rgr the no desire to instruct Davenrino.
I too don't have the itch to instruct. Mostly because I can't for the life of me imagine wanting to sit beside someone who is perpetually trying to kill me. (hehe j/k).
Really I don't think I have the patience for it.
RTR
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I enjoy it..I mean there are days when nothing goes right at all, and you just feel like throwing in the towle. But then that day comes along when your student is on the money and you love what you do.
At PDK we have a restaurant called the Downwind. Myself and some of the other instructors eat there pretty much everyday. In the summer time it is great to sit out on the deck and watch some of our former students make touch and goes for an hour or so. It makes you feel good inside. You think back to when they where white knuckling the yoke, scared to death, trying to take it all in. And now look at them. There is a certain level of pride that comes out of it all.
Some times when we find ourselves there with a few of our former students in the air, we make bets on the best landing. We normaly have the "oddball" judge (the instructor that doesnt have a one of there formers in the air at the time) to see who picks up the check. So far on those days I havent had to pay for lunch...
http://downwindrestaurant.com/
If you are ever at PDK check it out. Best damn potato salad in georgia. ^^^
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Originally posted by plank
Well, I'll answer it anyway :)
The same one who dropped us the map is the one whom gave us the wrong map in the first place. The new map included an apology.
And you flew with this guy? LOL
I have a restricted private license (just need to do my navs to get my full license). Trying to get some money together to finish, too busy with a new mortgage atm though. Haven't flown since last June. :(
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Kegger...have you ever flown into AHN? I used to work there from 95-02.
I've been to the Downwind a few times, gotta love that HUGE burger they have there. We have a similar place here at BDR that was the un-official hangout for the Corsair pilots doing the flight tests during the war. Alot of history in that little place....Amelia Earhart signed a prop that was above the fireplace along with all the Corsair pilots, of course that prop up and disappeared...LOL
TwrATM
Rob
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Oh yeah, I have flown into Athens plenty of times. Sometimes I take my students out that way when the airspace around PDK gets alittle to heavy for a new pilot.
I have flown into Bridgeport a few times back when I lived in Maryland. I dont go up that way much anymore. If you ever find yourself heading south, stop at THV. There is a place there called Orville's. Another great place to eat. There burgers arnt that great. But I would kill for a bowl of there chilli.
Just five mins below that is DMW. Another great place to stop and eat. Just off the airport within walking distance is Bullock's Airport Inn. They have pretty good food. The prices are really nice too. You know with all the pilots we have here would could almost start our own hundred dollar hamburger thread.
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I'm a private pilot with 260 hours, complex, high performance SEL ratings and endorsements.
A few years ago, the wife and I flew to Gaston's Resort in Lakeview, Arkansas (3M0) from Blytheville (HKA) in a rented 177RG. It's a popular $100 Hamburger stop right on the White River, close to the Bull Shoals dam, with excellent trout fishing. The runway is 6-22, 3500 ft long, and you land on 24, take off on 6.
Traffic was fairly heavy for an uncontrolled airport, landings and takeoffs frequent with usually 1 or two in the pattern. We landed (a beautiful landing, if I say so myself) and had lunch. Hung around, walked around the resort, and decided to head for home about 4 pm.
Got out to the plane, turned on the radio master, and listened for a couple of minutes. Some guy announced inbound, turning final, and I saw a plane come in and touch down. I fired up the mighty Lycoming, and announced departing. I prudently listened for any more traffic, and heard nothing. Off we go! Runup completed, I taxied over to the threshold ( all of 100 yards), looked around, turned onto the strip, and shoved the throttle and prop controls all the way in.
Liftoff! Gear up, flaps up, OHMYGAWDWHAZZATINFRONTOFME! Wheredidhecomefromwe'regonnadie! I pulled over to the right side, barely missing the trees, lowered the nose, got some speed going, and he flew over me, landing, placid as can be. I don't think he ever saw me, and he certainly never reacted.
I stabbed the PTT, and gave "dude" a piece of my mind. Then I looked over at the radio, and noticed the frequency was set for 118.000! WTF?? I tuned back to 122.8, and asked if anybody had seen the near collision on the approach end of the runway.
Several people responded in the negative. My answer was "that's good".
I snuck back to Blytheville, and mentioned that the radio had gone off channel to the owner/FBO. He said he knew that happened sometimes. I asked him why it wasn't common knowledge. Grrrrrr...
shubie
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Originally posted by Kegger26
Oh yeah, I have flown into Athens plenty of times. Sometimes I take my students out that way when the airspace around PDK gets alittle to heavy for a new pilot.
I have flown into Bridgeport a few times back when I lived in Maryland. I dont go up that way much anymore. If you ever find yourself heading south, stop at THV. There is a place there called Orville's. Another great place to eat. There burgers arnt that great. But I would kill for a bowl of there chilli.
Just five mins below that is DMW. Another great place to stop and eat. Just off the airport within walking distance is Bullock's Airport Inn. They have pretty good food. The prices are really nice too. You know with all the pilots we have here would could almost start our own hundred dollar hamburger thread.
Man, if i'm ever flying down that way , i'll have to do all those food stops,...probably have to recalculate the CoG by the end of the day tho,hehe.
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I hold a PPL for about a year or so, SEP only. So I'm still a beginner.
Flew Pa22, Pa28, C172, G115. All small GA aircraft. Didnt have any too hairy moments up to now (crosses fingers).
I made some pictures some time ago on one or two of my solo-flights as a student. With the new digital cameras you dont have to spend any attention to taking photos, so I figured it would be ok.
They're here (FYI I'm from Germany, so you might not know the places):
http://de.geocities.com/purzelfly/
For anyone who is interested in this stuff, I can only recommend it. Its great. Really.