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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: wrag on March 28, 2005, 04:08:05 AM
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Might get very warm......
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050328-125306-7868r.htm
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I love it when thugs try to issue ultimatums and proclimations..like they have some sort of authority. I hope they do try to attack the minutemen voluteers, so they can promply have therie tulips handed to 'em. If I wasn't so busy up here in VA with the Navy..I'd be down their with my carry permit ready to shoot those "MS-13" ******* on sight.
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When they bus the Illegal's and deport them, deport these pussified "gang members".
Karaya
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How much you wana bet that if a firefight does brake out, after the Minutemen decimate the gangmember punks, the local DA or federal DA prosacutes the Minutemen?
The government cant have armed citizens defending the border, it makes them look bad. :mad:
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They need to get the National Guard down on the border...at least until they get the wall built:aok . Actually, a high-profile firefight might be just the thing to get Congress and the President off their collective buts to safeguard the border. Everytime I watch a news show where this is debated, they always have someone on who is against any attempt to stem the flood of illegal aliens from Mexico. Time and again, this unappointed spokespersons for the illegals is asked, "If we don't build a wall and we don't deploy troops on the border, what should be done?" They always answer with something like, "We need to work with our neighbors to the south." They never explain what this means.
Now you have the Mexican government issuing handbooks on how to sneak into the US, where to find water, where's the best place to cross. When questioned about it, the official response is that the main purpose is to save lives by making the (illegal) crossing of the border less dangerous. That answer would make some sense, accept the handbook goes on to cover topics such as: how to blend in once you're in, how to get a drivers license, how to get food stamps, how to get your (illegal) kids into school, and on and on. If the Mexican government is going to continue to undermine our efforts to stop illegal entry to the USA, then physical border security is our only option, IMO.
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Hmmmm.....
Thinking something got missed.
Word was A treaty was signed not too long ago that litterally opened our borders to all north/south america.
Sort of an answer to the E.U.
Claimed under the new treaty they can't enforce any kind of immigration laws.
Saw a thread about it. It even posted the actual treaty. But stupidly lost the url when my system went south.
Something about the government actually being run, or everthing must passing through and be ok'd, from a small building filled with people from all over N.A. and S.A. setting near Wash D.C. now.
Don't know how accurate the article was.
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I have no problem with open borders. I have less problem with shooting gang members.
but... the solution is to jail and fine the employer and to have a national 5 day waiting period/background check for all new hires. If you even hire an illegal landscaper or maid your hollywood butt goes to prison for a year.
No medical services for non citizens except for emergency or paid in advance.
lazs
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I think this is great. everyday citizens taking responsibility for the security of their nation. As long as they arent like vigilantes this is great.
No one's gonna die of dehydration in the middle of the desert if they don't cross the border in the middle of the desert.
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If MS-13 encroaches on the Zetas territory, they'll just disapear.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A56415-2004Jun20.html
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Normandy-style defense of the borders should be allowed.
Bunkers, barbed wire, ditches, moats, gorillas with machine guns, alligators with flame thrower backpacks, hungry dogs, machine guns, a 50ft obtuse wall, quick sand, mud pits, and of course, proximity mined turtles.
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Late 80's early 90's there was a business man in california who asked for volunteers to help him stop the ilegals at the cali-mexi border near san diego. He had a good number of volunteers. Problem was he died of mysterious circumstances just before the rally day.
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alot of our border areas are so remote....I wonder if anyone would take notice if I his in the scrub and picked the useless bastards off as they croosed the border?
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This is kinda why we hire the government to provide these services.
Now if these guys want to incorporate be bonded carry insurance etc. so there can be some recourse if one of em screws up and shoots a local gardener fine.
Even the most well intentioned group can turn into a mob without controls.
shamus
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At least some help is on the way...
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/29/border.patrol.ap/index.html
The Homeland Security Department will assign more than 500 additional patrol agents to the porous Arizona border, saying they will help keep potential terrorists and illegal immigrants from entering the country, The Associated Press has learned.
The border buildup was to be announced Wednesday -- two days before civilian volunteers with the so-called Minuteman Project begin a monthlong Arizona patrol against immigrants crossing the U.S.-Mexico line.
About 155 agents will be immediately sent to Arizona, according to department officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because the buildup was not yet announced. More than 370 additional agents -- all new trainees -- will be permanently assigned to the Arizona border throughout the year.
Until they are in place, another 200 agents will be temporarily stationed in Arizona during the high immigration season this spring and summer, officials said.
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Looks like the plan is already a success then.
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About time we started doing something....Not enough here for us real Americans...Don't want to share it with anyone else as far as I'm concerned. All immigration illegal or not needs to be stopped.
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Originally posted by wrag
Hmmmm.....
Thinking something got missed.
Word was A treaty was signed not too long ago that litterally opened our borders to all north/south america.
Sort of an answer to the E.U.
Claimed under the new treaty they can't enforce any kind of immigration laws.
Saw a thread about it. It even posted the actual treaty. But stupidly lost the url when my system went south.
Something about the government actually being run, or everthing must passing through and be ok'd, from a small building filled with people from all over N.A. and S.A. setting near Wash D.C. now.
Don't know how accurate the article was.
EU citizens can travel, live and work anywhere in the EU without visas. If you are not a citizen of an EU country then you will almost certainly need a visa to live travel and work (the rules are upto each country).
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There is essentially something wrong when "We the People" who grant the privilage of powers to the government are told by the government that serves us, we cannot redress the greivence of ilegal aliens as a militia.
We being the citizens of the United States who are the ultimate authority are required by solem duty to our life, liberty and freedom as recognised by the bill of rights and protected by the constitution, to redress immoral wrongs commited against the constituion whether by external agents or domestic.
What we forget in the United States, is other than God, there is no higher temporal authority in this Republic than We the People. If we devolve to the point that we no longer suffer the government to exist, but instead delude ourselves to believe it an entity of diest proportion, than each of us should divest ourselves of life, liberty, and freedom and begin to fashion the yokes of our servitude to the coming secular purgitory.
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Originally posted by Pei
EU citizens can travel, live and work anywhere in the EU without visas. If you are not a citizen of an EU country then you will almost certainly need a visa to live travel and work (the rules are upto each country).
Might explain why so many terrorists hide over there.
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the simple solution, would be to annex Mexico, and make them all pay taxes.