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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: lada on March 28, 2005, 04:30:10 AM
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Yeah its nothing new in the US history. Its quite common that US support all armed conflicts if they can make some money out of it.
So in the name of forgoten puppy free country of USA will sell F-16 to Pakistanian dictator. When neighbour India start to whine about it, all what USA do, is selling more weapons India ... Hell Yeahhh... that makes sense ... let russia sell S400 to china, NK could sell Nukes to Iran and we will all live in peace .... what a briliant Idea.
Do you agree ?
May be we could export some Semtex to palestine, once US will donate weapons to "peace thirsty" israel.
edit: forgot to post a link http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/25/jet.sale/index.html
"The U.S. has to live in the world that exists, not the world we wish" exists, the official said.
ou ou ouch ... no more brave words about changing the world ?? Anyway cool excuse when you wanna make bussines with dictators.
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I wonder what Krista would say about this issue.
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I think Krista would say 'Dont worry lada, the UK is arming India so no need for panic'.
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Originally posted by Chortle
I think Krista would say 'Dont worry lada, the UK is arming India so no need for panic'.
India isnt ruled by Dictator, is it ?
anyway you probably mistaken UK with Russia
anyway i agree when 2 countries were about to start war 1 year ago, its good idea to sell weapons to both of them.
It will contribute to world peace, security and for sure it will eliminate thousands terrorist who could assemble dirty bomb.
Not bad idea at all.
So all EU have to do, to get rid of international critics because of selling weapons to China, is to offer same weapons to Thaiwan as well.... and all of us will be happy
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I believe that for some reason whatever Krista would think Josie would take up a contrary opinion.
(http://www.model-cafe.com/photos/josie/023.jpg)
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The UK is selling jets to India for about £1 billion. To comply with Labours ethical foreign policy, they've taken off the 'place bombs here' stickers and replaced them with Smilies :D
Worked in Indonesia. Suharto promised not to use all those light tanks against his own people, and he was a great guy. Shame about East Timor though.
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I'm confused by Lada's rant. Apparently it's wrong to sell
weapons to nations that are friendly, but it's perfectly ok to
give AK-47s to every tom dick and harry in Asia and Africa?
So I'm guessing it's that he's against making money?:rolleyes:
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Well, Rino... it's only the US that ever sold weaponry to nasty people.
Remember when we armed North Korea?
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In the US, unlike other countries, the arms business is not state owned.
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Originally posted by Rino
I'm confused by Lada's rant. Apparently it's wrong to sell
weapons to nations that are friendly, but it's perfectly ok to
give AK-47s to every tom dick and harry in Asia and Africa?
So I'm guessing it's that he's against making money?:rolleyes:
Aha .. i got your point .... so there is nothing wrong to sell weapons to those who are freindly to us ...
ok ... i forget ... it was not baaad to sell weapons to SH, while he were friends..
So all that BS about democracy that US president use, is probably product of ill mind. His favourite "democracy= peace" is now " friendly dictatores= sell them weapons"
ok then .. if do not see anything wrong about it.
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Originally posted by Toad
Well, Rino... it's only the US that ever sold weaponry to nasty people.
Remember when we armed North Korea?
No but we still remember who gave weapons to afghan terrorist.
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Originally posted by Suave
In the US, unlike other countries, the arms business is not state owned.
ohh realy ... ????
so if you will attempt to export Jets, you dont need license from goverment ?
Now you are probably going to tell me, that there is no lobby in the US, is there ?
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
(http://www.model-cafe.com/photos/josie/023.jpg)
far better that first try ..
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And we still remember what benovolent power invaded Afghanistan in December of '79 that led us to arm the Afghans too.
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Originally posted by Toad
And we still remember what benovolent power invaded Afghanistan in December of '79 that led us to arm the Afghans too.
Yeah thats solid argument for selling weapons to the country, whitch is ruled by some General for 2 decades. I agree that this argument is so strong, that it doesnt matter if country is or is not democratic.
Just say, that all that BS from bush about democracy is crap, for domestical folk and i will stop wonder. Because if US will sell weapons to Iran, you will probably defend it as well.
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Hmmm.. voting for multiple parties and thousands of candidates from both ends of the ideological spectrum in BOTH Afghanistan and Iraq.
Where was it the USSR instituted those reforms? Remind me.
:rofl
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Originally posted by Toad
Hmmm.. voting for multiple parties and thousands of candidates from both ends of the ideological spectrum in BOTH Afghanistan and Iraq.
Where was it the USSR instituted those reforms? Remind me.
:rofl
i spoke about pakistan, if your question is aimed at my latest post.
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anyway good question. How is pakistan diferent from Iraq ?
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Seems to me The Iraqi's, Somali's, Taliban were supplied with RPG's, Ak74's, and AK47's. I'd say the SOLE reason Russia refuses to help (Ukraine has) is the sole fact, the gravytrain of arms sales ground to a halt.
Karaya
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Seems to me The Iraqi's, Somali's, Taliban were supplied with RPG's, Ak74's, and AK47's. I'd say the SOLE reason Russia refuses to help (Ukraine has) is the sole fact, the gravytrain of arms sales ground to a halt.
Karaya
Ignorance at it's best.
USSR stopped selling arms to Iraq immediately after the Iran-Iraq war began. It was (and still remains) a state policy. We don't supply aggressors.
99% of AK you see on TV in all the countries you mentioned were made in China, Romania and othe countries.
Even T-72s Saddam had were made in Poland.
Most of Russian export to Iraq was oil drilling equipment. I am tired of repeating it.
Afghanistan again... Noone in the West seems to remember the Russian participation in a war against Taliban (that was BTW supported by US and Pakistan from the very beginning). Northern Alliance asked for old Soviet equipment, like T-55 tanks and BMPs, not speaking about small arms and ammunition. They know that equipment and it's much more reliable then Western technological miracles. Russian 203th Division build two pontoon bridges across Pianj river and sent requested supplies from Tajikistan. For free. BTW, many Northern Alliance officers still speak good Russian and are very thankful for our assistance.
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Originally posted by Boroda
Ignorance at it's best.
USSR stopped selling arms to Iraq immediately after the Iran-Iraq war began. It was (and still remains) a state policy. We don't supply aggressors.
North Vietnam and North Korea. You not only aided agressors, you participated.
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Originally posted by NUKE
North Vietnam and North Korea. You not only aided agressors, you participated.
North Vietnam becomes an aggressor. Another historical revelation from the Best Friend of All Russians :rofl
Yes, it was Democratic Republic of Vietnam who carpet-bombed American cities in 1972! :aok
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BTW, Soviet "participation" was always limited to anti-aircraft defence.
Soviet volunteers have beaten your aerial pirates in 1950, they literally did what they wanted with B-29 formations that tried to bomb Yaluczian river levees and North Korean cities.
Soviet volunteers burned enough B-52s over Hanoi and Haifon to save thousands of lives and make criminals from your air command chill down a little.
Didn't you ever think why your "democracy" always come wrapped in carpet bombings, napalm and mass murders like Song Mi?...
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Seems to me The Iraqi's, Somali's, Taliban were supplied with RPG's, Ak74's, and AK47's. I'd say the SOLE reason Russia refuses to help (Ukraine has) is the sole fact, the gravytrain of arms sales ground to a halt.
Karaya
How is it related to my question.
Is it ok for you to support non democratic represive regime, only because its "pro-american" ?
Do you agree that all those tales about democracy whitch come within US are pointless stories for domestical sheep ?
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pssst....Boroda...I got a secret to tell you....
YOU LOST.
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boroda, i have on good report that the chinese make a better AK47 than your cheap russian version.
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Originally posted by Raubvogel
pssst....Boroda...I got a secret to tell you....
YOU LOST.
ahh sure .... we know and US have huge technological advantige ... . stay on theme and keep tales for your children
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Lada
Were too busy following the Terry Schiavo issue to worry about weapons sales! The needs of the few are more important then the needs of the many it seems....
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Originally posted by john9001
boroda, i have on good report that the chinese make a better AK47 than your cheap russian version.
Sorry, USSR stopped making AK-47s in 1957.
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It started bad, got worse. Good to know we have so many experts in how all the various governments truly work. How about letting the experts actually figure this out instead of trolling our board?