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Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 28, 2005, 04:53:34 PM
TRACK: Ice Arena Normal
CAR: Toyota Corolla Rally Car ('98)
MODS: Snow tires only.  No other mods.
AIDS: TCS & ASM disabled for wheel users.  Others may use TCS & ASM.

Notes:
- Indy007 carries 50kg ballast this week.
- Funkypants returns to zero ballast.

RULES:
- Gran Turismo mode practice only. No arcade mode or drafting AI cars.
- Lowest single lap time wins.
- Post times in this thread by Monday AM.
- Winner picks next week's track, car, and mods.
- Winner must carry 50kg ballast in next week's competition. Subsequent wins add 50kg ballast for each win, up to a maximum of 200kg. If winning streak is ended, 50kg is removed each week that the driver does not win.
- Oil change and car wash allowed.  
- Try not to cut corners or hit walls too much.
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 28, 2005, 04:54:12 PM
Week 2 Results:
1.  Indy007 1:52.901 - 10 pts

2.  Swoop  1:52.933 - 6 pts
3.  Funkypants 1:53.544 - 4 pts
4.  Takeda 1:53.931 - 3 pts
5.  Frenchy 1:54.112 - 2 pts
6.  Saurdaukar 1:54.153 - 1 pt
7.  Nuchpatrick 2:02.214 - Honorable Mention

Overall Standings:
1.  Indy007 - 14 pts
1.  Funkypants - 14 pts
3.  Swoop - 12 pts
4.  Frenchy - 5 pts
5.  Takeda - 3 pts
5.  Saurdaukar - 3 pts
7.  Funkypants' Dad - 1 pt
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: Swoop on March 28, 2005, 06:25:47 PM
Snow?!

But....but.....but.....I'm a biker!  Bikers dont go out in snow!




Aw man, ok then.

First lap time:   'bout twenty minutes.


Will keep trying.

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Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: Saurdaukar on March 28, 2005, 06:55:31 PM
I need to get my watermelon in gear.
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 29, 2005, 03:52:40 AM
Best I can do so far is 49's.
Car seemed a lot better when I adjusted the center diff to 50/50.
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 29, 2005, 04:00:13 AM
Also from now on I'm going to try to capture my best lap each week (with video capture card on my pc) and post video here.  Not so much as proof but for entertainment purposes.  :)
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: nuchpatrick on March 29, 2005, 07:17:54 AM
Lordy I hate the snow.. I will not comment on the times yet..cause I can't even keep the car from going around int he corners..
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: takeda on March 29, 2005, 08:18:32 AM
Will try this night... if I surface from my U-Boot, that's it.
Argh... stupid games, I should be studying.
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: GtoRA2 on March 29, 2005, 10:27:47 AM
This one will be fun.


Now if my back will stop killing me :(
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: nuchpatrick on March 30, 2005, 07:11:54 AM
Okay whoever picked snow needs to be beat with a rubber malet.

Best I can do.. 55.050
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: indy007 on March 30, 2005, 08:05:42 AM
Comeon guys. Easy 2nd - 3rd gear track, in the perfect car for it :) I haven't sat down for more than 15 minutes to run it and I'm putting down 47's with ballast.

I thought y'all liked rally :)
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: nuchpatrick on March 30, 2005, 08:58:37 AM
Me rally..no way.. I autocross!  And a few track days.. :D

I have to master the 'drift' thing.. I'll try some more rear wheel biais.
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: Swoop on March 30, 2005, 09:34:40 AM
Quote
Originally posted by indy007
I thought y'all liked rally :)


You'd be wrong.

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Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: indy007 on March 30, 2005, 09:54:04 AM
Well, then if nobody owns me on my second favorite track, I'll take us back to the wonderful world of pavement & traction for week 4.
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: takeda on March 30, 2005, 02:37:11 PM
50.386, but ugly as hell, I basically used every wall in the circuit...

I don't bother downshifting from 3rd... the extra acceleration on 2nd never goes forward anyways... :)

Now that I think of it... has this car tunable gears out of the shop? Might have to look there.
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: indy007 on March 30, 2005, 03:32:21 PM
Quote
Originally posted by takeda
50.386, but ugly as hell, I basically used every wall in the circuit...

I don't bother downshifting from 3rd... the extra acceleration on 2nd never goes forward anyways... :)

Now that I think of it... has this car tunable gears out of the shop? Might have to look there.


I can't remember, I'm pretty sure it's FC. There's really no reason to adjust anything for this track imho. The trick is to get the car sideways well ahead of time, and give it just enough gas to keep your sideways slide through the corner going (by using all your wheelspin to keep them broken free). You want a minimum of forward movement until you clear the apex. Then smoothly accelerate out of the turn and setup for the next corner. You shouldn't go past 3rd gear on this track iirc.

It's available in the license tests also, I suggest getting in a few practice sessions there. It goes a long way to keeping you off the walls.
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 30, 2005, 06:21:45 PM
Also you can try some left-foot braking.  Brakes and gas at the same time.  Old rally driver trick.  Should make the car understeer less without wheelspin if PD got the center diffs right.
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 30, 2005, 06:35:31 PM
Just some random notes:

Best 6 car races:
Renault Clio Cup
VW Bettle Cup
VW Lupo Cup

All those cars are full race versions with nice default setups, lovely to drive.  You can win from 6th with no additional mods, but just barely.

Also the 1000 Miles race at the Nurburgring is a blast.  Pick something like a Ginetta, Jag E-Type, Shelby Cobra, MBz 300SL, then start and quit until you get an AI field with the same car as yours in it.  If you use N3 tires you will just barely be able to outrun the AI.

Best money makers:
Special Conditions, Rally di Capri Easy.  You get the Toyota RSC Rally Raid which you can sell for about $250k.

Even better is European Events, German Touring Car Meisterschaft.  You can do this on B-Spec in about 10 minutes.  $150k prize money plus a CLK race car which you can sell for about $750k.  
The catch is that you need a car from the DTM series to compete.  Italian Festival, Schwarzwald League B, Legend of Silver Arrow, Opel Speedster Cup, will all give you a car you can use.  Then mod it to Stage 4 turbo or something and you can B-Spec about $5M per hour.
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: nuchpatrick on March 31, 2005, 04:55:20 PM
Alright.. I adjusted the fron diff to 20% made the car handle much better!! I pulled a 48.239 :D
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: GtoRA2 on April 03, 2005, 12:03:05 AM
51.534 so far.
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: GtoRA2 on April 03, 2005, 12:10:44 AM
49.813
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: FUNKED1 on April 03, 2005, 01:30:36 AM
I surrender, ran a 12 hour enduro today in the GTP mod for NR2003.
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: Swoop on April 04, 2005, 02:15:18 AM
I hate snow.


There's been shouting, swearing, things thrown around.......been in a bad mood for a week.

And the best I can do after 50 million attempts is 50.103

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Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: FUNKED1 on April 04, 2005, 02:57:41 AM
49.099 was my best.
Let Indy strap on another 110lbs and we'll get him this week.  :)
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: indy007 on April 04, 2005, 08:17:01 AM
Quote
Originally posted by FUNKED1
49.099 was my best.
Let Indy strap on another 110lbs and we'll get him this week.  :)


Well... there is another snow track :) Didn't really get to work on my times thought, only hit 46.512. PMS'ing girlfriend randomly going crazy made it hard not to drive my real car into an overpass pylon.

Okay.. the track is Tsukuba Circuit, the car is the uh.. HPA Motorsports Stage II 32. 50k mods, not including R3 tires. *no NOS* Should make for a pretty fast lap, and some good technical challenges with the reverse bank corner and the long lines.
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: Swoop on April 04, 2005, 08:36:08 AM
WTF is a HPA Motorsports Stage II 32?


And if this is another 3/4 million cr car.......I'm trying to save up for one of those 4.5 million cr race cars and this aint helping.

Also, clarify pls:  Are you saying R3 tyres are all that's allowed or just that any other tyres have gotta come out of the 50k budget?

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Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: indy007 on April 04, 2005, 08:49:21 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Swoop
WTF is a HPA Motorsports Stage II 32?


And if this is another 3/4 million cr car.......I'm trying to save up for one of those 4.5 million cr race cars and this aint helping.

Also, clarify pls:  Are you saying R3 tyres are all that's allowed or just that any other tyres have gotta come out of the 50k budget?

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Go to Tuners, go to HPA (top left). iirc it's only 75k. If you want better than R3, take it out of the budget, but imho, it's not gonna be worth it. No, you don't get a refund trading them in for R4s or 5s.
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: Heretik on April 04, 2005, 09:41:58 AM
the car's only 31k and change.  I just hope I can use it for some actual races.
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: newguy on April 04, 2005, 10:34:49 AM
Well I finally got the game the other day and my pro force wheel comes in today, so I'll give this one a whirl. Someone else win this week so we can get some cool cars racing!! :) btw, what was the first car you guys paid for in this game? I started with a Buick Grand National which I used until I had enough for a 2000 Z06 (which dosent exist, but thats another matter).
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: indy007 on April 04, 2005, 10:51:15 AM
Quote
Originally posted by newguy
Well I finally got the game the other day and my pro force wheel comes in today, so I'll give this one a whirl. Someone else win this week so we can get some cool cars racing!! :) btw, what was the first car you guys paid for in this game? I started with a Buick Grand National which I used until I had enough for a 2000 Z06 (which dosent exist, but thats another matter).


Hey now! Any car I pick is cool by default  :cool:

I started with a used MR2 turbo. Then I got the HPA Stage II, and saved up to build a 1000hp Skyline. After that, my favorite was the Motul Pitwork Z jgtc race car. Then, after my first 4.5mil it was the Audi R8. My second 4.5mil got me the Toyota le mans car. Those cars won me the Polyphony Formula cars in various colors. Those are all I drive except for this challenege :)
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: GtoRA2 on April 04, 2005, 10:56:58 AM
my first car was some forgetable used POS skyline, like a 96, my first REAL car was a 71 cuda hehe.
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: nuchpatrick on April 04, 2005, 11:44:23 AM
Becareful of your saves.. thats right my whole game is gone. I went to play yesterday and said data card corrupt. So I guess I'm out of the races for a while. I called a buddie of mine who has been playing it too.. I'm going over to copy his card so I can get the licences quickly..

I must have accidently turn it off while it was saving or something. I don't recall seeing the read indicator.  Just thought I would give you guys a heads up.
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: indy007 on April 04, 2005, 11:45:33 AM
Quote
Originally posted by nuchpatrick
Becareful of your saves.. thats right my whole game is gone. I went to play yesterday and said data card corrupt. So I guess I'm out of the races for a while. I called a buddie of mine who has been playing it too.. I'm going over to copy his card so I can get the licences quickly..

I must have accidently turn it off while it was saving or something. I don't recall seeing the read indicator.  Just thought I would give you guys a heads up.


Don't spill Kool-Aid on them either. Cost me 250 GT3 cars.
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: nuchpatrick on April 04, 2005, 11:51:44 AM
More like a hammer... :mad:
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: Heretik on April 04, 2005, 11:55:58 AM
The game lets you import up to 100k from a Gt3 save, so my first car was an 00 Z06 that I was immediately able to upgrade very nicely.  Some may consider this cheating, but I'll be damned if I was gonna run the Sunday Cup 20 + times like I had to in Gt3.
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: CavemanJ on April 04, 2005, 12:07:26 PM
Quote
Originally posted by nuchpatrick
Becareful of your saves.. thats right my whole game is gone. I went to play yesterday and said data card corrupt. So I guess I'm out of the races for a while. I called a buddie of mine who has been playing it too.. I'm going over to copy his card so I can get the licences quickly..

I must have accidently turn it off while it was saving or something. I don't recall seeing the read indicator.  Just thought I would give you guys a heads up.


Something to watch out for, if you want to save your game onto 2 memory cards and have a backup of it.  Do the copy from card to card in the browser screen.  DO NOT just pop in a new mem card and save your GT4 game.  You'll have all your credits, stats/completed races/etc, but you'll lose every car you have in your garage except for the car you are currently in.  Found this out the hard way because I didn't read all the little popup windows that came up after I switched memcards and saved a 'backup game', then switched back to my regular memcard.


As for the best money maker in the game... the DTM series in the Euro events.  I used the Benz 190E touring car to win the manufacturer's one make event, Legend of the Silver Arrow I think, and won the Benz CLK Touring car.  Used the CLK touring car in the DTM series.  15k for a 1st finish, 7500 for 2nd, 75k (I think) for 1st overall in the series, and the prize car you win sells for 750-760k.  Time compression mode in Bspec and you can do the whole thing in 15-20min.
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: takeda on April 04, 2005, 04:22:59 PM
Ok put a few laps in, best so far is 1'02.005, just added the drivetrain stuff and the LSD.
If I manage to cut it under 1' I'll be glad enough.
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: Heretik on April 04, 2005, 06:09:48 PM
1'00.274 here, done for today.  I can only handle running around in a rice burning VW for so long.  looking for '58 tomorrow.
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: CavemanJ on April 04, 2005, 06:48:38 PM
Quote
Originally posted by indy007


Okay.. the track is Tsukuba Circuit, the car is the uh.. HPA Motorsports Stage II 32. 50k mods, not including R3 tires. *no NOS* Should make for a pretty fast lap, and some good technical challenges with the reverse bank corner and the long lines.


So we buy the HPA car, slap on R3 tires, and then have 50 grand to spend on mods, yes?
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: Heretik on April 04, 2005, 06:56:41 PM
correct.  and the 50k will buy just about all the upgrades that can be had.
Title: O'Club GT4 Challenge Week 3
Post by: Saurdaukar on April 04, 2005, 09:14:20 PM
Im DNF this week.