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Title: Did all Fw-190s and 109s have ammo counters (like the ones in IL2 FB)
Post by: IK3 on March 30, 2005, 02:14:23 PM
Im curious, i think installing these counters in real life were time consuming and expensive (in 40's standards).
Title: Did all Fw-190s and 109s have ammo counters (like the ones in IL2 FB)
Post by: humble on March 30, 2005, 02:33:37 PM
Yes...
Title: Did all Fw-190s and 109s have ammo counters (like the ones in IL2 FB)
Post by: humble on March 30, 2005, 02:34:56 PM
Running out of ammo and losing plane and pilot is a bit more expensive...BTW it was common for other nations to use different colored tracers on last belt to let pilot know he was at the end of his clip....
Title: Did all Fw-190s and 109s have ammo counters (like the ones in IL2 FB)
Post by: MiloMorai on March 30, 2005, 02:54:57 PM
Quote
Originally posted by humble
BTW it was common for other nations to use different colored tracers on last belt to let pilot know he was at the end of his clip....


And, it let the enemy know you were running out of ammo.
Title: Did all Fw-190s and 109s have ammo counters (like the ones in IL2 FB)
Post by: humble on March 31, 2005, 10:30:09 AM
Yup a bit of a two edged sword. I know some pilots didnt use em at all and others varied how far from end they were placed.
Title: Did all Fw-190s and 109s have ammo counters (like the ones in IL2 FB)
Post by: GScholz on March 31, 2005, 08:52:24 PM
The ammo counters are probably the cheapest instrument in the 109 and 190. It was a simple mechanical device.
Title: Did all Fw-190s and 109s have ammo counters (like the ones in IL2 FB)
Post by: TexMurphy on April 01, 2005, 04:48:30 AM
How many plane types had ammo counters in WW2?
Title: Did all Fw-190s and 109s have ammo counters (like the ones in IL2 FB)
Post by: blackwitch on April 01, 2005, 12:00:10 PM
Just those 2 LW Fighters IIRC.

Though some planes had the breeches of guns within the cockpit, I don't know if they could lean and look to see if bullets were still hanging from the breech?

Witch
Title: Did all Fw-190s and 109s have ammo counters (like the ones in IL2 FB)
Post by: GScholz on April 01, 2005, 02:30:40 PM
All LW fighters (with a select few exceptions) had the counters.
Title: Did all Fw-190s and 109s have ammo counters (like the ones in IL2 FB)
Post by: Grendel on April 02, 2005, 11:03:22 AM
FW 190 A-6
(http://www.virtualpilots.fi/hist/kuvat/Ampumaopas/24at.jpg)

Bf 109 G-5/G-6
(http://www.virtualpilots.fi/hist/kuvat/Ampumaopas/25bt.jpg)
Title: Did all Fw-190s and 109s have ammo counters (like the ones in IL2 FB)
Post by: Sombra on April 02, 2005, 02:16:25 PM
If I had no ammo counters I'd use no tracers on the last belt.