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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Gunslinger on April 01, 2005, 01:37:54 PM
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Found this an interesting read.
A provocative new book by a French journalist says today's clash of civilizations constitutes the opening phases of a devastating global conflict—a conflict that is foretold in the Bible.
Has the Third World War already begun? According to French journalist and geopolitical thinker Laurent Artur du Plessis, the answer is "Oui!" In his recent book, La Troisième Guerre mondiale a commencé ( The Third World War Has Begun ), published by Godefroy and not yet available in English, he details the reasons he believes the world is already in the opening phases of what will eventually become a war that will devastate the world with nuclear and biological weapons.
Though he bases his analysis on simple observation of the current world situation, many of his conclusions bear a striking similarity to elements of Bible prophecy contained in Daniel 11 and Revelation 13, among other chapters.
Mr. du Plessis' thesis is that the dominant geopolitical event now and in the near future will be the confrontation of the world's two main civilizations: the Western democracies and radical Wahhabist Islam. In the first section of the book, he explains why this war of civilizations will continue.
One reason is quite simple: The opposing civilizations have underlying motivations that inexorably lead to conflict. The dominant value identifying Western civilization is individualism and liberty (p. 35). The opposing Islamic civilization, however, is based on a religion. He maintains that all religions have a "spirit" (in the sense of an "attitude") about them, and the spirit of Islam is violence (p. 62), a violence used to expand its own domination by force.
The resulting tension and violence are already being felt around the world, in obvious places like the Middle East but also between India and Pakistan, in Indonesia and multiple nations in Africa. Pakistan recently revealed itself as a nuclear power; if it fell to Islamic extremists, as Mr. du Plessis believes it will, those extremists would have their fingers on the nuclear trigger.
The confrontation between these two civilizations, he continues in the book's second section, will be exacerbated by a worldwide economic crash brought about by gross misuse of borrowing (what he calls in one chapter title the "crash by overdose of credit"), especially national budget deficits, oppressive taxation and financial policies that squelch productivity and impede businesses from prospering.
While this global economic meltdown would make life very difficult in the West, it will make life in the "developing world," including almost all Muslim countries, absolutely miserable—if not impossible.
As sources of financial aid dry up in the economic famine, health infrastructures in the third world, already poor in many areas, would deteriorate even further, leading to a sharp rise in disease epidemics.
Indeed, in scriptures such as Revelation 6:5-8 and Matthew 24:7, the Bible does foretell that before the return of Jesus Christ, there will be a calamitous rise in famine and disease epidemics.
A modern caliph predicted to come to power The economic crisis, continues Mr. du Plessis in the book's third section, will propel radical Islamic groups to power in all countries of the Arab and non-Arab Islamic world. Mr. du Plessis believes that out of the weak nation states of the Arab world will come one united Islamic movement, encompassing Arab and non-Arab Muslim nations.
He foresees a restoration of the caliphate, probably under a Turk. In Islam, a caliph is a leader having both supreme religious and civil power over all Muslim nations. Having one such recognized supreme leader would allow for coordination of efforts by the whole of the Islamic world. He points to several Islamic extremist organizations rising in Muslim Central Asia, groups such as the Uzbekistan Islamic Movement and the Hizh ul-Tahir "Liberation Party" that are actively seeking to build support in the Islamic world to reestablish the caliphate.
Mr. du Plessis believes that it is not far-fetched to believe this could occur since "the alchemy of history suddenly propels out of anonymity exceptional people at exceptional times" (p. 235).
This rising tension between Islam and the West will also have an interesting side effect in Europe, he believes. He foresees a fervent renewal of religious sentiment and practice (p. 44). This shock of civilizations will, he thinks, propel Europe back to the Christianity of its roots.
Finally the stage will be set for a sudden outbreak of violence and warfare. The author foresees terror attacks against the Western democracies: chemical, biological or nuclear attacks on major ports (perhaps hiding weapons in cargo containers, whose security is very hard to guarantee); commercial airliners shot down with portable missiles; radioactive "dirty bombs" detonated in large cities; surprise attacks on nuclear power stations; suitcase nuclear weapons. All are within the realm of possibility and could be used by kamikazes seeking martyrdom.
Mr. du Plessis concludes that the Western countries will finally use their nuclear arms as the only way to make the terrorism stop. Entire cities and even nations will be leveled. Virtually all nations in the world will be forced to take sides in this conflict. It will be the final act of a world war more devastating and horrible than any other conflagration in world history.
Interestingly, he foresees the possibility that Russia might not side with Europe, but rather with the Islamists in exchange for the possibility of some acquisitions in Europe. This would set the stage for a military conflict between Europe and Russia during the same time that Europe would be confronting the united Islamic world.
To students of Bible prophecy, much of this scenario sounds familiar.
Biblical parallels with this scenario Daniel 11 is a detailed prophecy about two major powers called "the king of the North" and "the king of the South." Most of the prophecy was accurately fulfilled in ancient times by the Seleucid and Ptolemaic dynasties, located to the north and south of Jerusalem. But part of the prophecy remains to be fulfilled at the end time.
Other prophecies show that at this same time there will be a final resurrection of the Roman Empire in Europe (for more details, see our free booklet The Middle East in Bible Prophecy ). This latter-day "king of the North" is also the powerful politico-military leader at the head of an end-time restored Roman Empire. He is called "the beast" in Revelation 17:11-18.
Daniel 11:40 says: "At the time of the end the king of the South shall attack him [the king of the North]; and the king of the North shall come against him like a whirlwind ..." This tells us that, in the end time, there will be a powerful military leader to the north—centered in Europe—and another to the south of the Holy Land.
The countries generally to the south of present-day Israel include Islamic countries such as Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Yemen, Libya and Ethiopia (Ethiopia has a large Christian population, but the largest religion is still Islam). So it is very likely that the domain of the king of the South would include these areas.
In fact, Egypt, Libya and Ethiopia are specifically mentioned in Daniel 11:43 as countries conquered by the king of the North after his military attack on the king of the South.
A caliph could be just the kind of leader described as the king of the South, and as we have seen, Mr. du Plessis believes that a united Arab world will indeed attack Europe, using weapons of mass destruction, and that Europe will respond militarily, eventually resorting to nuclear weapons.
A nuclear or biological attack on European soil would certainly motivate a European military leader to retaliate. This is indeed what God told Daniel would happen next—that the king of the North will "come against him [the king of the South] like a whirlwind" (verse 40).
After the northern king's conquest of much of the Middle East, "news from the east and the north shall trouble him; therefore he shall go out with great fury to destroy and annihilate many" (Daniel 11:44). As Mr. du Plessis foresees, if Russia (to "the east and the north" of the Holy Land) did indeed side with a terrorist Islamic power, it would lead to conflict between Russia and Europe.
World religion and world politics combine Revelation 17 shows the imagery of a prostitute sitting on the blasphemous "Beast" that has seven heads and 10 horns. The animals or beasts in Revelation represent governments, nations or rulers, and women represent religions (see our booklet The Book of Revelation Unveiled ).
This prostitute represents a false religion that will, for a time, dominate the government of the Beast, which will fight against the Lamb (Jesus Christ) at His return. Again, as Mr. du Plessis foresees, religion will play an important role in establishing the cohesion of the coming European power.
It must be stated that Mr. du Plessis' scenario does not completely follow the future foretold by the Bible. He believes, for example, that Europe and the United States will work together during the coming world conflagration and that the United States will come out of the future war the big winner. This is not what the Bible says (to learn more about this, request or download our free booklet The United States and Britain in Bible Prophecy ).
Ultimately, Artur du Plessis does not base his perceptions on what God has revealed through Daniel, Jesus and John. It is striking, however, that informed people who study the current geopolitical scene reach conclusions comparable to what the Scriptures foretold thousands of years ago. This is just another chilling indication that we are in what the Bible calls "the time of the end." GN
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I've been saying this for a few years now.
Btw, Europe is already losing the war. (I'm not joking around when I say that either).
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Looks like a book wrote to sell, not to tell the truth, facts nor ones beliefs.
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We got more nukes.
It'll be a very short war.
Overpopulation problem solved.
Did WWII start in 1934? Nope.
Has WWIII started? Well, is the middle east a big luminous glass parking lot? No?
Guess it hasn't started.
We'll all be dead sooner or later. Rather pointless to worry about something that's a certainty.
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If I want an opinion on pastry making or romantic vacation spots, I'll look for one from a French author. If I want opinions on war, predicting the future, or biblical interpretation, I'll ask anyone else.
I'm guessing this guy couldnt make it writing travel guides and cookbooks?
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Doesn't it all sound rather Jolly!
:rolleyes:
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#1 reason i don't believe him is........................... ................He's FRENCH!
#2 WWIII may not have started yet, but that doesnt mean it wont anytime soon! But if you want to get technical, the War on Terror, could be considered WWIII. United States and its allies are fighting in countries around the world. Some have been anounnced to the public, others havent. So hypothetically we are in WWIII. That may or may not be what he is trying to say.
Egle31st
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If you look at the global events occuring today, the seeds are certainly being sewn for a *potential* WWIII.
-SW
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End times prophecy has been with us a long time. It still pretty interesting. I always heard the US would be a non-player in the end times, having been taken out world influence by moral decline and bankruptcy.
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About Laurent Artur du Plessis : Bis repetita placent
I believe it's his third book on this subject.
He is just senile
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And a french christian to boot?? Is that possible and true?
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Everyone move to Ripsnort's! I believe he has an atomic shelter below the carpet!
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
I've been saying this for a few years now.
Btw, Europe is already losing the war. (I'm not joking around when I say that either).
lol!
(http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/383092/2/Dice_Two.jpg)
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And we have so many more resources to exhaust yet. I best get busy.
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lol :lol
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With the passing of the Pope John Paul (what ever number) that the proficy is beguining to be fullfilled.
I see the future its here its now! , and in a minute i see my self getting up to get another beer! make that 2 beers just so i dont have to get up again!
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There are simply too many people on the planet. As I've said in other threads a while back, WWIII is overdue, IMHO.
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Ummm, fellas, It started @ 3 1/2 years ago
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i have it on good athority that the world will end in 999 AD
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I expect Mr. du Plessis , being French, is just trying to predict which side he will be able to surrender to. :D
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skuzzy... I have an old man-a-free four dueces manifold that I need to get up an running on the Healey so that I can do my part in wasting even more resources before the end of the world.
lazs
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Aren't "French" and "thinker" contradictory terms???????
:p :D
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Well, I'll tell you this: it's 2 am and I've just been awakened by some low-life, rude, obnoxious, drunken idiots in the hallway outside my hotel room and I have to get up at 6 am for a meeting.
World War III is about to start now and I'm going to start it. If I don't post anything in the next 24 hours, I'm either dead or in jail. I swear to God, I am sick and tired of rude people.
I've had a belly full of rude people this week and I'm not even in Paris.
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We should crush them now that they're still weak.
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WWIII has started?
I poked my head out the window but I can't hear a damned thing. Seems like I miss out on everything.
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Ummm guys WW3 started 15 billion years ago.
Top that jaded global military/sociological internet jeanius wanna-bees.
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I just checked Foxnews...no "experts" or talking heads talking ad-nauseum about this supposed WWIII, guess I missed it too...cause even they haven't invented possible reasons for it yet..
Tronsky
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Originally posted by GScholz
WWIII will start when we forget WWII. Hopefully education, Discovery Chanel and HTC will prevent that.
Discovery channel makes people forget many things, not remember. Popular history is for forgetting, not remembering. :(
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Originally posted by Boroda
Discovery channel makes people forget many things, not remember. Popular history is for forgetting, not remembering. :(
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/210_1111363879_commiebob.jpg)
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Santa you grand arse admiral you flying in AH yet?
Where have you been we've missed your gravity inducing bunghole?
BTW WW3 will happen in 25 years
WITH MA SUPAH DIMENSIONAL FORTRESS MACROSS BEOTCHES!
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It's BS of course. But what I do like about it is that we win. As in the Western democracies. Naturally thanks to America again!!!!
So we'll have put up with all the 'We saved your Euro tulips again' jibes from all the Yanks on this board. I'll just say thanks in advance, just to get it over with. ;)
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Originally posted by cpxxx
It's BS of course. But what I do like about it is that we win. As in the Western democracies. Naturally thanks to America again!!!!
So we'll have put up with all the 'We saved your Euro tulips again' jibes from all the Yanks on this board. I'll just say thanks in advance, just to get it over with. ;)
No prob..anytime
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Yeah, it's kind of a hobby for us :).
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Originally posted by Maverick
Aren't "French" and "thinker" contradictory terms???????
:p :D
The word was 'tinker' but the French misspelled it.
:D
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Originally posted by Fishu
Looks like a book wrote to sell, not to tell the truth, facts nor ones beliefs.
its hard to sell bible these days
europian are not religion morons, so now we will die, coz bible says that....
again...
oh welll ...
im so happy that people here got rid of that useless book and we have no more religion connections with goverment.
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Originally posted by -tronski-
I just checked Foxnews...no "experts" or talking heads talking ad-nauseum about this supposed WWIII, guess I missed it too...cause even they haven't invented possible reasons for it yet..
Tronsky
i guess you mean possible excuses ... not a reason :)
aka ferdinant
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World War III will begin by the North Koreans, Chinese masters unleashing them on South Korea with Nukes. As soon as that begins China will go after Taiwan with a passion. Since the US will not back down the War will escolate.
It will happen within the next ten years. Mark the time as of now.
So sayeth the Mighty Renegade!
So it has been written
So shall it be!
Ren :eek:
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Do we all want a WW3 then?
:rolleyes: Crazy crazy people!
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Originally posted by Skydancer
Do we all want a WW3 then?
Heck no, but it's 1054 GMT, it's raining hard outside with lotsa lightning, my planes are finally landing, relief will be in shortly and I can go home and sleep fitfully. In the meantime I figured ya'll should know when and how it will begin.:eek: Ren....did I mention its inevitable?
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
A provocative new book by a French journalist says...
Theres no such thing as a french jounalist who can write anything provocative. Please quit joshin us! :D
Ren :rofl