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Title: I need information on B17g '2nd patches'
Post by: Sp4de on April 01, 2005, 09:03:43 PM

Please:D i need ALOT there is not to much. need every detail about it. even the number of teeth it had:lol

Thank you
- Spade

Title: I need information on B17g '2nd patches'
Post by: Guppy35 on April 02, 2005, 03:14:40 AM

Best I can do so far

Dan/CorkyJr
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/810_1112433169_2ndpatches.jpg)

Title: I need information on B17g '2nd patches'
Post by: Sp4de on April 02, 2005, 11:30:24 AM

Thanks guppy:)  if theres a b17 you want skinned id be glad to do it instead of this one.. youve always been there to help the skinners out :) Thank you

Title: I need information on B17g '2nd patches'
Post by: SELECTOR on April 02, 2005, 01:24:09 PM

i think it crashed low on fuel comming back from kessel..crashing at boxted..it was canablised for spares..

the problem was there was a strong tail wind to target and very stronge head wind comming home.. quite a few ran out of fuel and dithched in channel..

Title: I need information on B17g '2nd patches'
Post by: Sp4de on April 02, 2005, 01:38:12 PM

heard alot of stories. heard one that they crashed on take off :(

Title: I need information on B17g '2nd patches'
Post by: DaddyAck on April 02, 2005, 02:18:38 PM

Question? How do you put a picture in your post? every time I have tried it did not work???:confused:

Title: picture
Post by: rogerdee on April 02, 2005, 03:22:27 PM

daddyack  you need to join something like picture hanger you upload your picture to them then use a link to  get it on here

picture hanger (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/)

rgerdee

Title: I need information on B17g '2nd patches'
Post by: o0Stream140o on April 02, 2005, 03:32:41 PM

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Originally posted by Guppy35
Best I can do so far

Dan/CorkyJr
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/810_1112433169_2ndpatches.jpg)

I"ll have to use that picture... and find out how the two escorting P-51's are.  It's a great picture Guppy

By the way Guppy, not trying to high jack this thread, I am looking for pictures of the 325th launching off the USS Ranger in there P-40E or F's.  It was before they had the checkertail tail fin. I have a video of it, but you can't make out the serial numbers.  I wonder if you have anything on that, or have access to find it.

Title: I need information on B17g '2nd patches'
Post by: Cobra412 on April 02, 2005, 05:31:25 PM

From what I've found from researching these particular mustangs is they belong to the 319th FS.

Aircraft No. 73 is USAAF S/N 42-103443, Plane Name: Margaret, Pilots: Edwin L. Williams (1 Kill in a Mustang) and Howard F. Welch. Salvaged 9-2-45.

Aircraft No. 87 is USAAF S/N 43-24852, Plane Name: Gravel Gertie/Delightful Dee, Pilot: Jack H. Bond (4 Kills in a Mustang). MIA 10-12-44.

Title: I need information on B17g '2nd patches'
Post by: Sp4de on April 02, 2005, 07:54:45 PM

(http://web.poltava.ua/homes/stimorol/b17g.jpg)

found this.
Any information on the exact color? and is that bare metal or alluminum on tail?
thanks -Spade

Title: I need information on B17g '2nd patches'
Post by: o0Stream140o on April 02, 2005, 09:44:56 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Cobra412
From what I've found from researching these particular mustangs is they belong to the 319th FS.

Aircraft No. 73 is USAAF S/N 42-103443, Plane Name: Margaret, Pilots: Edwin L. Williams (1 Kill in a Mustang) and Howard F. Welch. Salvaged 9-2-45.

Aircraft No. 87 is USAAF S/N 43-24852, Plane Name: Gravel Gertie/Delightful Dee, Pilot: Jack H. Bond (4 Kills in a Mustang). MIA 10-12-44.

I sent off an email to Mr. Fiedler and this is what he said.

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Squadron numbers are as follows:  10 - 39   317th
                                         40 - 69   318th
                                         70 - 99`  319th
There are modifications however.  In the 317th we used some numbers lower than 10; e.g., 5,7,8,9.  I think there were others also like 2 and 3??
These pictures are taken on the mission to Russia called Frantic from 2 to 11 June 1944.  As you can see, they are from the 319th and #73 was flown by 2nd Lt Howard F. Welch and #87 was flown by 1/Lt Arthur C. Albin.
Those are excellent pictures and are the best I have seen to date.  Usually one can see the birds but the numbers were difficult to make out.
Hope the above helps,
Cordially,  Art

Sorry spade didn't mean to highjack.  :aok

Title: I need information on B17g '2nd patches'
Post by: Cobra412 on April 02, 2005, 09:50:53 PM

Stream wouldn't surprise me if another crew was flying either aircraft. These were the crews assigned to those aircraft.

Title: I need information on B17g '2nd patches'
Post by: Guppy35 on April 03, 2005, 03:16:30 AM

Quote

Originally posted by o0Stream140o
I"ll have to use that picture... and find out how the two escorting P-51's are.  It's a great picture Guppy

By the way Guppy, not trying to high jack this thread, I am looking for pictures of the 325th launching off the USS Ranger in there P-40E or F's.  It was before they had the checkertail tail fin. I have a video of it, but you can't make out the serial numbers.  I wonder if you have anything on that, or have access to find it.

Only thing I could find so far.  P40Fs launching from USS Ranger  January 19, 1943 from the 325th FG.  It was a small photo in a P40 book so I couldn't blow it up much.  Can't read a serial number on the lead bird or the nose art.

I'll keep looking

Dan/CorkyJr
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/810_1112516074_325thhawks.jpg)

Title: I need information on B17g '2nd patches'
Post by: Guppy35 on April 03, 2005, 03:17:35 AM

Quote

Originally posted by Sp4de

found this.
Any information on the exact color? and is that bare metal or alluminum on tail?
thanks -Spade

The tail was a replacement tail in natural metal as was the crew door and a panal under the right wing.

OD/Gray otherwise

Dan/CorkyJr