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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Elyeh on April 02, 2005, 09:51:31 PM
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Just wondering if its common practice to strafe a plane that has just appeared on the runway. I was in the MA the other night and this plane killed me 3 times in a row as I tried to start my engine and take off. My plane would get on the runway and he'd be waiting and shoot me as I started my engine.
Just seems a cheap way to get a kill.
Comments??
Flame suit on LOL
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No, in fact, it's a sign of courtsey. When you are being vulched, it is a sign of respect to allow others to vulch you... especially me.
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Originally posted by Nath_____
No, in fact, it's a sign of courtsey. When you are being vulched, it is a sign of respect to allow others to vulch you... especially me.
Translation:
Yes it is a way to get a cheap kill. Yes it is fun. Yes it can be used as 'base suppression". Yes everybody does it.
Except me of course. ;)
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in MA there are no rules of engagement.
on runway, in the air, on the dirt, in the water, is fair game for most part.
if you getting vulched, just up an ostie and shoot them down. or go to another field and up.
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Yup, it's a cheap way to get kills.
But it's a lovely thing to do.
On the other hand, everyone being just human and all, if I see someone who is apparently a newbie, and he ups again and again and again.. I do kinda feel sorry for him, and sometimes let him up. (..and then, shoot him immediately down when he looks to be 'ready'. Maybe I'll let him just go, if he manages a ditch.)
Ofcourse, if the guy starts smack talking on ch200, it's back to the vulch-pit for him.
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Originally posted by Elyeh
Just wondering if its common practice to strafe a plane that has just appeared on the runway. I was in the MA the other night and this plane killed me 3 times in a row as I tried to start my engine and take off. My plane would get on the runway and he'd be waiting and shoot me as I started my engine.
Just seems a cheap way to get a kill.
Comments??
Flame suit on LOL
Would you rather they let you get up to speed and get off the ground a few feet before they blast you?
XD
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Originally posted by Elyeh
Just wondering if its common practice to strafe a plane that has just appeared on the runway. I was in the MA the other night and this plane killed me 3 times in a row as I tried to start my engine and take off. My plane would get on the runway and he'd be waiting and shoot me as I started my engine.
Just seems a cheap way to get a kill.
Comments??
Flame suit on LOL
And what did you learn? :D
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Originally posted by Howitzer
And what did you learn? :D
Keep upping until you have killed them all!!!!.....Man I hate Vultures!!!....except when I am one :p
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Originally posted by Elyeh
this plane killed me 3 times in a row as I tried to start my engine and take off.
And thus ended the lesson.
Really, I don't understand the appeal of vulching, it happens, especially during attempted base captures.
If someone nails you on the runway like that. Find another runway.
-Sik
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vulching is, like, electronic darwinism.
:D
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OK Ok ok....
I just wanted to know if it was ok to do that or if it was frowned upon.
Anyway.... Its just seems like shooting ducks on a pond. I would think the combat would be in the air..... seems that a kill would mean more if it was air to air thats all.
yes I did move to another airfield....
It it was just one plane doing it while all the others prefered to fight in the air so I wasen't sure is this was acceptable practice or not.
and yes I'd like to at least him try to hit a moving target, not one thats just appeared and staionary.
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If you only did it 3 times before you moved to another field, I would say your a quick learner :) You will do well!
Welcome to the unfriendly skies :)
Gunner
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ROE for the MA are as follows.
1. Fly an La7
2. take head on shots exclusively
3. failing the head on shot, run away
4. no less than 5 green tags for every enemy
5. vulch vulch vulch
6. fighter hangars are bad. bomb them.
7. vehicle hangars should never be bombed
8. it's bad manners to clear a teammates 6
9. medals are awarded for clearing a teammates 12
10. smoke crack and worship satan
11. cherry-picking is ACM
12. the germans bombed pearl harbor
13. it's your 15 bucks, sail that CV into a PT spawn.
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Elyeh, your first lesson in the "honor" of online combat. There is none. None, that is, except what you bring yourself to the arena.
That said, its nice to welcome new players that have a sense of fair play and can help balance the mental giants we have here who get their jollies taking advantage of new people to pad their scores. We call them (appropriately enough) "score potatos".
I'm also not saying you should give up your values. I applaud them. I try to hold such a view myself. I limit myself to "vulching" when I am helping to suppress a base for capture and no one else is in position to do the job. Otherwise I ignore people taking off until they are up enough to have a chance at shooting me down too when I engage. It often bites me but I'm satisfied with flying within my own set of boundaries. I just dont want you to get frustrated if things arent going the way you think they should.
Everyone has their own ideas about what the game should be. You, like everyone else, are free to fly whatever plane you want (within the limits of the perk point system), and fly it however you want. For the most part, you set your own ROC, and so does everyone else. Everyone pays to play, and everyone is fiercely defensive of being able to play the game "my way". Just understand, if you set rules for yourself, you will often be dissapointed by others and even angered. You have to decide for yourself if you'd rather give up all pretense at "honor" and play their way, or if you want to put restrictions on yourself, knowing probably no one else you run into will play by the same rules. I personally prefer that though, to not having any principles. Your call. Oh, and welcome! :)
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Is it better to let ya get 200ft in air and then whack ya?
rollin from a capped field is not smart,if ya do,expect to get poped
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Originally posted by Elyeh
I was in the MA the other night and this plane killed me 3 times in a row as I tried to start my engine and take off. My plane would get on the runway and he'd be waiting and shoot me as I started my engine.
This is your sign. :D
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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Elyeh, your first lesson in the "honor" of online combat. There is none. None, that is, except what you bring yourself to the arena.
That said, its nice to welcome new players that have a sense of fair play and can help balance the mental giants we have here who get their jollies taking advantage of new people to pad their scores. We call them (appropriately enough) "score potatos".
I'm also not saying you should give up your values. I applaud them. I try to hold such a view myself. I limit myself to "vulching" when I am helping to suppress a base for capture and no one else is in position to do the job. Otherwise I ignore people taking off until they are up enough to have a chance at shooting me down too when I engage. It often bites me but I'm satisfied with flying within my own set of boundaries. I just dont want you to get frustrated if things arent going the way you think they should.
Everyone has their own ideas about what the game should be. You, like everyone else, are free to fly whatever plane you want (within the limits of the perk point system), and fly it however you want. For the most part, you set your own ROC, and so does everyone else. Everyone pays to play, and everyone is fiercely defensive of being able to play the game "my way". Just understand, if you set rules for yourself, you will often be dissapointed by others and even angered. You have to decide for yourself if you'd rather give up all pretense at "honor" and play their way, or if you want to put restrictions on yourself, knowing probably no one else you run into will play by the same rules. I personally prefer that though, to not having any principles. Your call. Oh, and welcome! :)
Ya know, what StarofAfrica said is really a great response and we all would be hard pressed to explain it better!!:)
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Originally posted by Shane
vulching is, like, electronic darwinism.
:D
Sig. material here! :D
Frodo
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Oh, how many times we discuss it.
As you now know, you were "vulched". If you keep trying to up from a capped field, you will die often from this.
In the air, if another plane gets a gun solution in your face and shoots you, you died from a "HO"...... Head On.
If you are lower than another plane and he dives to kill you, as all the great pilots did in WWII, you were "cherry picked".
Do me a favor, die with dignity and don't cry about it.
Watch 200 for the pilots who just can't admit they got beat....even if the odds were unfair.
"Nice HO!"
"VULCHER!"
"Nice CHERRY PICK!"
These are the battle cries of the insecure and weak minded. If you get beat against even odds, bad odds, or good odds, just die and re-up...... leave the crying to the babies.
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Originally posted by TalonX
Oh, how many times we discuss it.
As you now know, you were "vulched". If you keep trying to up from a capped field, you will die often from this.
In the air, if another plane gets a gun solution in your face and shoots you, you died from a "HO"...... Head On.
If you are lower than another plane and he dives to kill you, as all the great pilots did in WWII, you were "cherry picked".
Do me a favor, die with dignity and don't cry about it.
Watch 200 for the pilots who just can't admit they got beat....even if the odds were unfair.
"Nice HO!"
"VULCHER!"
"Nice CHERRY PICK!"
These are the battle cries of the insecure and weak minded. If you get beat against even odds, bad odds, or good odds, just die and re-up...... leave the crying to the babies.
Thread vulcher!!!!
It was a HO to boot. :D
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Originally posted by Elyeh
Just wondering if its common practice to strafe a plane that has just appeared on the runway. I was in the MA the other night and this plane killed me 3 times in a row as I tried to start my engine and take off. My plane would get on the runway and he'd be waiting and shoot me as I started my engine.
Yes, it is a common practice.
Rule number 1: Never up from a capped field.
Just seems a cheap way to get a kill.
Yes, it is.
Comments??
Did you learn from the experience? If not, see Rule number 1. :)
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Originally posted by Dinky2003
Would you rather they let you get up to speed and get off the ground a few feet before they blast you?
XD
go to dueling arena and theyll let ya up;)
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Welcome Elyeh. Some players are going to do what they wish regardless of what others think of it. Your only choice is to take it as it comes and move on, or join the whining, complaining masses on channel 200. It's your nickle, I only suggest one rule to set for yourself. When the going gets rough and your blood pressure begins to peak (and it will), grab an Ostie, tank or gun until you settle down. Cursing and kicking the cat may feel good at the moment, but it pisses off the cat and your wife.
Peace be with you.
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Fine art of vulching shall always remain my main source of fun....and my only way i can get a kill with my gun accuracy skills or lack of.
And I would appreciate all the help anyone can give me..to provide ez targets...preferable not even moving but will take a barely wheels up target if thats all that anyone can provide me.
the only ez kills i will pass on are c47s that agree to return to their base or ditch. I have a heart after all.
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Originally posted by AmRaaM
Fine art of vulching shall always remain my main source of fun....and my only way i can get a kill with my gun accuracy skills or lack of.
And I would appreciate all the help anyone can give me..to provide ez targets...preferable not even moving but will take a barely wheels up target if thats all that anyone can provide me.
the only ez kills i will pass on are c47s that agree to return to their base or ditch. I have a heart after all.
Well, at least you don't make up excuses like most dedicated vulchers. :P
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keep spawning , they will run out of ammo soon.
actualy , play their game, spawn and when they make a pass jump back to tower, it takes good timing and will drive the vulchers crazy.
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Originally posted by Shane
vulching is, like, electronic darwinism.
:D
Don't you mean electronic intelligent design?
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Check from tower if any enemy planes are taking passes on the runway. If they are, or are close to the runway you probably getting vulched.
Best is to take off in their direction and shoot em down while they try to vulch you from front. Then watch the channel 200 for them to cry you HOed them.
Seriously, it would be nicer without the vulching. But i usually cant resist myself and most others cant resist as well. The point is when you take off on a field with enemys up in the air you will die shortly after take off eaven if no one vulches you, since the slow speed and alt give you big disadvantage.
Either dont care or come from another field, mostly i give it 5 or so tries to up so the others can have fun vulching.
When a base is about to be conquerd and a goon is close you have to vulch, so none ups and shoots your goon. But on the other occasions you are right, it is more fun to let em up and then battle it out once they are in the air and have gears up.
So corresponding to your question your could say its gentelmen like to let em up and raise their gear before shooting, not shoot from front, descent to equal alt and speed before engaging and letting the other guy rtb once hes shot up.
But in the main arena is war and i there are few gentelmen. However in the dueling arena you usually ask before engaging, dont vulch and dont interfere other duels.
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Did Elyeh ever say who it was that was doing the vulching ? Cause I would have remembered vulching him if I had done it.
BTW welcome Elyeh.
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Elyeh
To avoid getting vulched.
1. Take off from hanger instead of runway when ever there are enemies near a field.
2. Take off from nearest field, get alt and own the vulchers. Nothing more fun then dropping down on vulchers. They are so focused on the runway that they have no E what so ever and arnt looking up. Do this and THEY are the easy, cheap kills. ;)
Dont move to another field inorder to fight elsewhere. Move to another field and go to the first field to help defend it.
Tex
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3. always vulch/ho Tex as he will beat you into a bloody pulp given half the chance.
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Another tactic for dealing with vulchers, although more time consuming than the others listed, is to switch countries, trick the vulchers into inviting you into their squad, "befriending" them over a period of a few weeks, and then killshooting them whenever the desire strikes you. Hearing the moans and occasional bursts of profanity is... airgasmic.
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Originally posted by Elyeh
Anyway.... Its just seems like shooting ducks on a pond. I would think the combat would be in the air..... seems that a kill would mean more if it was air to air thats all.
There are those who share this view.
There aren't many of us, though, as this thread shows.
- oldman
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Being a newbie here I have to ask, What is wrong with bombing Fighter hangers ?
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Another tactic for dealing with vulchers, although more time consuming than the others listed, is to switch countries, trick the vulchers into inviting you into their squad, "befriending" them over a period of a few weeks, and then killshooting them whenever the desire strikes you. Hearing the moans and occasional bursts of profanity is... airgasmic.
I KNEW IT!!!!! :D
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Originally posted by mussie
Being a newbie here I have to ask, What is wrong with bombing Fighter hangers ?
The fighter hangers should be downed when there is about 15 min to troop drop.
This is the only time it really serves a purpose.
If you down it without there beeing any attempt to take the base all you do is shut down the furball. Shutting down the furball means a few things. You "ruin" the day for the furballers. Say what you want about furballing but its a part of reality. If you are into base taking then you have to learn to use the furballers to your advantage. Furballers will help you CAP a field as long as there are fighters around to kill. Once the FH goes down and enemies stop upping they leave.
If the FH is dropped when town is beeing worked but you dont have goons around the corner then the FH will be up by the time you do have goons there and the furballers will be long gone.
To make this even worse is when FH is dropped and NOT VH. In this situation the base defenders flood over into GVs and if they get into town you can kiss the base take bye bye.
Most bomberdweebs who just want "something to bomb" hit FH and screw up either the fruball or the base take.
Bomberdweebs should always go for the VH isntead. VHes should always be down 24/7 at each field.
Tex
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Thanks Tex
I take it ya dont like bombers.... been shot down by a few have ya :)
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Originally posted by Elyeh
and yes I'd like to at least him try to hit a moving target, not one thats just appeared and staionary.
You do realize one could get killed that way?:D
If it one guy, keep upping 110s till he is out of ammo. Then up a lala and kill him. Nothing like a guy wiht 10 kills, waiting for his WTFGs, and a lala on his tail.
Muahahahahaah :lol
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It also helps if you don't care about your kill/death ratio and care more about trying to defend a base. Vulching deaths don't seem as bad then.
I'd hazard a guess that 50% of my deaths are vulched. I think the most I've been shot down in a vulch was 9 consecutive times. The 10th I shot down 2 C-47s before being blasted, and it was all worth it ;-)
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Originally posted by mussie
Thanks Tex
I take it ya dont like bombers.... been shot down by a few have ya :)
No no on the contrary I do like the element which bombers add to the game. If AH was only about fighters it would have been a shallow and booring game.
What I dont like is when pilots do stoopid things and take out FHs instead of VH just because they a) dont know what needs to be bombed, b) dont ask what needs to be bombed or c) dont care what needs to be bombed. Further I dont like when players (in this case yes players not pilots) use level bombers for divebombing and suiced intentionally.
When it comes to bomber busting I have quite a good success rate in that as of late.
Tex
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My favorite tactic to counter vulcers is to up a 30mm armed 190 or 109 and HO the ***** of the them. Some of the best fun I've ever:p
Last time I did it was when a massive Tyffie raid was attemting to take one of our airfields (they got it too), upped a 30-mil 190, got 7 (not all HOs) of them before they got me. One of the best times I ever had.
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There is one clear way to get people to stop vulching, don't up a plane at a capped base.:D
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Originally posted by SkyRock
There is one clear way to get people to stop vulching, don't up a plane at a capped base.:D
:) That would be boring for both of us wouldn't it be?
I was backing up the car the other day and heard a funny noize. I opened the door, got out, went around the car, and there it was. Broken is so many small litle pieces. Your ruder muahahahahahahahaa, no way to get it back now.:eek: