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Title: The B25.
Post by: Kegger26 on April 05, 2005, 07:32:22 PM
Are we ever going to get the B25 added to Aces High? This is one of the most over looked bombers in WWII. The weapons this bomber carried were impressive. The H model had a 75mm. It could carry delayed action bombs, para frags and rockets. This would be a premer attack plane in AH. The raids the B25 made in the south pac were amazing to say the least.
 I mean the payload on this plane...14 .50 cals, one 75mm T13E1 cannon plus 3,200 lbs. of bombs/rockets.
http://www.riemarfamily.com/falcon%20in%20action.html
http://www.riemarfamily.com/falcon%20in%20action%20page%202.html
Title: The B25.
Post by: Wolfala on April 05, 2005, 09:03:25 PM
Neglected to mention the A-26, which came in more varients, packed more power, and served up through Vietnam as an interdictor through CAT and other Airlines of note.

Wolf
Title: The B25.
Post by: SuperDud on April 05, 2005, 09:13:38 PM
Furbal??? You're late on this one....
Title: Re: The B25.
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 05, 2005, 11:42:26 PM
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Originally posted by Kegger26
Are we ever going to get the B25 added to Aces High? This is one of the most over looked bombers in WWII. The weapons this bomber carried were impressive. The H model had a 75mm. It could carry delayed action bombs, para frags and rockets. This would be a premer attack plane in AH. The raids the B25 made in the south pac were amazing to say the least.
 I mean the payload on this plane...14 .50 cals, one 75mm T13E1 cannon plus 3,200 lbs. of bombs/rockets.
http://www.riemarfamily.com/falcon%20in%20action.html
http://www.riemarfamily.com/falcon%20in%20action%20page%202.html



IIRC, the USAAC B-25H were only used in the SWP area of opertions for a short time before being moved over to the CBU area of operations.  I know the Marines had a unit or two that flew them as well as the Navy but I don't know how successful they were.  If the B-25G/H ever makes it into AH, would be cool if it was the naval or Marine variant.


ack-ack
Title: The B25.
Post by: Guppy35 on April 05, 2005, 11:51:30 PM
There were cannon armed Gs operated in the MTO with 12th AF as well as the CBI and Pacific.

A B25 C/D and a G would be nice.  Lets the cannon fans have one with the G and the skinners can go to town for MTO and Pacific birds.  C/D allows for RAF, USSR, etc use as well.

I suppose a glass nosed J would work too but I'd take the first two ahead of a J if it was up to me....which of course it isn't :)

Dan/CorkyJr
Title: The B25.
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on April 06, 2005, 12:38:31 AM
I'd like to see the solid nose version with the guns.
Title: The B25.
Post by: storch on April 06, 2005, 07:04:13 AM
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
I'd like to see the solid nose version with the guns.


in both the B25 and the A26, they would be nice additions but there are many other aircraft that should be modeled first.  namely in the Japanese, Italian  and Russian models.  we could also do with the gun nosed JU88 and the cannon armed JU87 as well.
Title: The B25.
Post by: oboe on April 10, 2005, 12:04:08 PM
A few versions of the B-25 would be a skinner's heaven.   Lots of great noseart on those birds.

I believe its credentials are superb, like the P-38 it served throughout the war in every theater.
Title: The B25.
Post by: Furball on April 10, 2005, 12:14:50 PM
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Originally posted by SuperDud
Furbal??? You're late on this one....


I wholeheartedly agree, we really need more American aircraft.  They are vastly under represented when compared to the planeset of the other nations.

Bring the B-25 to Aces High.
Title: The B25.
Post by: Rino on April 10, 2005, 12:42:41 PM
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Originally posted by Furball
I wholeheartedly agree, we really need more American aircraft.  They are vastly under represented when compared to the planeset of the other nations.

Bring the B-25 to Aces High.


     Well at least this one was operated by your beloved RAF
as well :aok
Title: The B25.
Post by: oboe on April 10, 2005, 11:10:56 PM
And the VVS.
Title: The B25.
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on April 11, 2005, 09:36:01 AM
Before we add italian russian german and japanese bombers we must have it.


I want this one

copied from http://tailwheels.free.fr/Falaise%2004/Falaise%2004.htm

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/277_1113230135_b254.jpg)
Title: The B25.
Post by: TheFox on April 12, 2005, 03:45:46 AM
I like the markings on this :aok


(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/290_1113295448_b25lr.jpg)


Regards
Title: The B25.
Post by: Angus on April 12, 2005, 03:56:13 AM
Just looked at Foxe's site.
RECOMMENDED! Absolutely beautiful pictures.

:aok  Fox!
Title: The B25.
Post by: TheFox on April 12, 2005, 08:01:19 AM
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Originally posted by Angus
Just looked at Foxe's site.
RECOMMENDED! Absolutely beautiful pictures.

:aok  Fox!



Thanks for the comments Angus - much appreciated. Just added a few more including La-9, Lanc and a Korean Pair. I will keep adding images from time to time. most of which were taken during the last year. We are now getting into the airshow period here in the UK so I should  capture a few more images to add to the site.

Fortunately in the airshow quiet period, motorsport and women are also part of my photographic interests, but I guess not really appropriate for this forum :aok


Regards
Title: The B25.
Post by: Angus on April 12, 2005, 09:22:02 AM
Got some nice shots from the 2000 Duxford show. I can mail them to you if you like. Freeware :)
SE5's, Avro 504, Sopwith Tripe, Hurrys, Spits, Blenheim, Lizzy, etc.

Just post an email.
Title: The B25.
Post by: TheFox on April 12, 2005, 09:35:49 AM
Sure !

Send them to fox@fox-photography.co.uk  -  you never know, I might host them for you !  ;)

Regards
Title: The B25.
Post by: TrueKill on April 12, 2005, 09:47:54 AM
we dont need anymore US bombers we need more jap , rus, and german bombers.
Title: The B25.
Post by: Angus on April 12, 2005, 09:51:29 AM
Will find something tonight and mail ;)
(Theyre on another machine)
Some images are rather big.
Nothing compared to the quality of yours, but some are still pretty good.
Title: The B25.
Post by: Wurger on April 12, 2005, 10:24:32 AM
So what would the B25 actually do or be used for instead of the B26 or A20 we already have?  I thought we had everything the B25 could do covered by these two planes?


Bazi (seriously asking the question - not trying to flame)
Title: The B25.
Post by: GreenCloud on April 12, 2005, 02:51:47 PM
.Ya..b-25H!!! woo wooo

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/842_1113332907_cimg0993.jpg)
or hs129..i dont care..Just get Me to TONKA TOWN..so i can crack those GVs open ..and hear thsoe whines...whhhhhhayyyy


(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/842_1113333417_picture003.jpg)
Title: The B25.
Post by: wojo71 on April 14, 2005, 11:16:04 PM
Don't care ,me want a b-25(with a 105mm howitzer in nose):D
Title: The B25.
Post by: Angus on April 16, 2005, 05:16:08 PM
Hey Fox, feel free to post from the batch, - like the Blenheim for instance ;)
Haven't got a host yet, but will in a week or two.
Title: The B25.
Post by: Tails on April 17, 2005, 08:01:09 PM
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Originally posted by Wurger
So what would the B25 actually do or be used for instead of the B26 or A20 we already have?  I thought we had everything the B25 could do covered by these two planes?


Bazi (seriously asking the question - not trying to flame)


The glass nosed and MG nosed B-25's would be fairly redundant compared to the B-26 and A-20. The 75mm armed B-25, however, is a totally different animal. It would rip GV's to shreds, parafrags would make it wonderful against strats and towns, it could probably use that gun to good effect against airfield targets as well.

If the 75mm armed model was added to the lineup, it would probably be sitting right next to the Goon as 'required hardware for base capture' :aok
Title: The B25.
Post by: Staga on April 18, 2005, 03:45:17 AM
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Originally posted by wojo71
Don't care ,me want a b-25(with a 105mm howitzer in nose):D


That may be a bit harder to get.
Title: The B25.
Post by: mipoikel on April 18, 2005, 04:42:57 AM
Is it better than B-26?
Title: The B25.
Post by: Kegger26 on April 18, 2005, 07:00:20 AM
Not as fast but packs more of a punch. The B25H is an attack plane. With the 75MM and the parafrags and rockets, that and about 8 .50s up front it was a mean plane in the PAC. Alot of guys talk about the A26, but give me a B25H anyday of the week. I would lay havoc to any gvs around, feild captures with a few of these would be no problem.
Title: The B25.
Post by: Angus on April 18, 2005, 07:12:05 AM
B25 was told to handle quite delightfully also :)
And Parafrags, - for deacking or troop busting, hmmm....BTW they were around in Warbirds, so HiTech know how to-do, you see ;)
Title: The B25.
Post by: Wolf14 on April 18, 2005, 08:18:33 AM
If I rememebr correctly from an old Wings episdoe on the B-25, the first models were actualy quite a bit faster than the later ones. Like the B-26 Marauder it had to be landed fast and ended up making a few widows. As its series prgressed the actualy widend the wings and made the plane heavier through its various laod-outs.

In some cases though from what I gather Wings didnt always get the correct information for their shows and the would have discrepancies on occasion.
Title: The B25.
Post by: Tails on April 18, 2005, 11:42:10 AM
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Originally posted by Angus
B25 was told to handle quite delightfully also :)
And Parafrags, - for deacking or troop busting, hmmm....BTW they were around in Warbirds, so HiTech know how to-do, you see ;)


I know using IL2/Pac Fighters for a reference is likely a Bad Thing (tm), but Parafrags in that game arent exactly a precise science, especially with no associated bombsight. They would, here anyways, likely be used in a full salvo, maybe .2 or .3 delay, and just carpet an area with them, which is why I say they would be good for towns and factories and the like.
Title: The B25.
Post by: SunTracker on April 18, 2005, 04:21:41 PM
Parafrags would be good at breaking up GV clusters at tank-town.
Title: The B25.
Post by: Tails on April 18, 2005, 04:59:36 PM
They could be. It is my understanding that the parafrags were small-yield, high-fragmentation devices. Tanks might not get much damage from them, but anything with little/no armour would be having a rotten day.