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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Raven_2 on April 12, 2005, 08:48:22 PM
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Is it true that ~7.000 citizens in Virginia were forcefully sterelized, until 1979?
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I think it was West Virgina! Or it should of been!
:)
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So far as I know, no one was sterelized. They may have been sterilized, though.
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Mmmm. Is this not a violation of human rights?
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Originally posted by Raven_2
Mmmm. Is this not a violation of human rights?
Call the ACLU. They'll be able to give you the answer I am SURE you want. Why are you worried about it anyway?
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Pretty sure they were citizens of the prision system and in prision for sex crimes. But citizens none the less - i'd rather have their balls off then on, given those facts.
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Well, too many americans blame communistic regimes (mainly USSR) for human right violation. But remain blind to similiar things in your own country.
I don`t want to became another anti-american *******, just wonder: is this a double standarts or your TV/newspapers are lie to you that much? Cause eugenics is... well... a bit antihuman, I think.
More about sterilization:
Also in the Nando Times today is an interesting article about eugenics in America. Many think this pseudoscience originated with the Nazis. Not so.
By the 1930s, nearly two-thirds of the states had eugenics laws, but no states applied them as ardently as Virginia, California and North Carolina. California sterilized more than 20,000 people, the most in the nation. Virginia sterilized 7,450 and North Carolina sterilized nearly 6,300.
The 1924 Virginia Statute for Eugenical Sterilization required sexual sterilization of the "insane, idiotic, imbecile, feebleminded or epileptic" in the belief they would produce similarly disabled offspring.
You might think that such a law violated the 14th Amendment's guarantee of equal protection under the law, but you would be wrong. The U.S. Supreme Court upheld the law on May 2, 1927, in an 8-1 ruling written by Chief Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, who said:
It is better for all the world if, instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind.
In case you are wondering, Indiana enacted the nation's first sterilization law in 1907, and Connecticut followed soon afterward. Biologist Harry H. Laughlin wrote the law on which the Virginia eugenics statute was based. Hitler's 1933 Law for the Prevention of Offspring with Hereditary Diseases sounds like the Virginia statute. In 1936, Laughlin received an honorary medical degree from the University of Heidelberg for his contributions to the "science of race cleansing." Laughlin was one of the founders of the Pioneer Fund, dedicated to such things as improving the character of the American people by encouraging the procreation of descendants of white persons. The Fund is still around and was a major supporter of Murray and Herrnstein's Bell Curve.
And one more: http://www.saponitown.com/eugenics-carrie-buck/eugenics-carrie-buck.htm
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Originally posted by Raven_2
Well, too many americans blame communistic regimes (mainly USSR) for human right violation. But remain blind to similiar things in your own country.
I don`t want to became another anti-american *******, just wonder: is this a double standarts or your TV/newspapers are lie to you that much? Cause eugenics is... well... a bit antihuman, I think.
More about sterilization:
And one more: http://www.saponitown.com/eugenics-carrie-buck/eugenics-carrie-buck.htm
Let me guess, the country you are from is safe from "Hypocrasy"?
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>>Let me guess, the country you are from is safe from "Hypocrasy"?
What is a "hipocrasy"?
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It is similar to "sterelized".
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>>Let me guess, the country you are from is safe from "Hypocrasy"?
Well, never heard about sterelization in Russia. Not by force, nor by someone will.
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Is this boroda?
Isnt killing millions of citizens of the USSR and or all the little nations they had to put down uprisings in kinda like sterelizing?
well not really, far far worse.
if the US did this its bad, but overall our history is a hell of a lot cleaner then comunist russia.
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Originally posted by Raven_2
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Well, never heard about sterelization in Russia. Not by force, nor by someone will.
In Russia, it usually involved a 7.62 to the back of the head.
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Originally posted by ATA
Right,
Native americans,slaves,iraq........
BTW,you'd be speaking german if it weren't for "comunist russia".
LOL! Sad that people are so dumb.
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ATA
Your saying the US is as bad as the USSR?
Sure the way we treated the indians was bad, but they were not 100% inocent themselves.
The US is not the only nation that used slaves.
Comparing the things the Russians did to its own people to Iraq is idiotic.
Our history has its dark spots, but not like the USSR, Hitlers Germany or Comunist China.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Our history has its dark spots, but not like the USSR, Hitlers Germany or Comunist China.
That's true.
Now,there is no need in calling me "idiotic"
But i do believe that "Iraqys Freedom" is complete horsecrap.
And the president is responsble for anesesery deaths of american troops. Sorry about spelling.
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Personal attack/Circumventing the language filter
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ATA
Thats what you made it sound like.
I wont sugar coat our past, and yeah Iraq is prolly going down in histoy as a **** sandwitch. But even with Iraq the US pales in comparison to the USSR.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
ATA
Thats what you made it sound like.
I wont sugar coat our past, and yeah Iraq is prolly going down in histoy as a **** sandwitch. But even with Iraq the US pales in comparison to the USSR.
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Well that's true too:)
Sorry about that.
Best regards
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Originally posted by Raven_2
Well, too many americans blame communistic regimes (mainly USSR) for human right violation. But remain blind to similiar things in your own country.
I don`t want to became another anti-american *******, just wonder: is this a double standarts or your TV/newspapers are lie to you that much? Cause eugenics is... well... a bit antihuman, I think.
More about sterilization:
And one more: http://www.saponitown.com/eugenics-carrie-buck/eugenics-carrie-buck.htm
Hi Boroda, welcome to my ignore list, AGAIN.
Karaya
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Sorry about the idiotic thing, but you cleared it up so were cool.
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Originally posted by Raven_2
Is it true that ~7.000 citizens in Virginia were forcefully sterelized, until 1979?
Isn't that where they filmed the movie, "Deliverance?"
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Originally posted by Raven_2
Is it true that ~7.000 citizens in Virginia were forcefully sterelized, until 1979?
and your point is?
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Originally posted by john9001
and your point is?
You don't think it's unusual for USA to do that?There must've been a good reason,i'd like to think so anyway.
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Originally posted by ATA
Right,
Native americans,slaves,iraq........
BTW,you'd be speaking german if it weren't for "comunist russia".
No, but Europe would be speaking commie if it wasn't for the US.
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Originally posted by Thrawn
No, but Europe would be speaking commie if it wasn't for the US.
Hmm,i never thoght of it that way,you prolly right.
BTW the lang would be "Russian" not commie.
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Originally posted by ATA
Hmm,i never thoght of it that way,you prolly right.
BTW the lang would be "Russian" not commie.
Russian didn't replace the languages of the other Soviet countries, I don't imagine it would have in the west either. Besides, I don't necessarily hate Russians, but I do hate commies. ;)
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Russian didn't replace the languages of the other Soviet countries, I don't imagine it would have in the west either. Besides, I don't necessarily hate Russians, but I do hate commies. ;)
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Acording to Karl Marcks comunism sups. to be a paradise,it was a great idea but power was given to wrong people i guess.:cool:
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And you guys called me an "Amerihater!!!!!!"
:rolleyes: :lol :lol :lol :lol THIs guy is serious.
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Originally posted by Raven_2
Well, never heard about sterelization in Russia. Not by force, nor by someone will.
I think they call it Genocide in Russia.
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For those of you that missed the 1000+ post thread where Boroda started it rolling with a question to the Finns, Raven is one of about 3-4 Soviets that deny every evil thing the Soviet Union did while castigating everyone else's country.
Denials that continue after it has been pointed out that the Soviet Union has already ADIMITTED being responsible for the atrocities. The slaughter of Polish POW's at Katyn Forest as a salient example.
As a result of looking like a total tool, Raven is now obviously trying to dig up dirt on the US.
The difference will be that if he finds some, US posters will admit it, denounce it and agree that it was wrong.
The unapologetic Stalinist Soviets can't do that. Raven is one of those.
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Originally posted by Toad
For those of you that missed the 1000+ post thread where Boroda started it rolling with a question to the Finns, Raven is one of about 3-4 Soviets that deny every evil thing the Soviet Union did while castigating everyone else's country.
Denials that continue after it has been pointed out that the Soviet Union has already ADIMITTED being responsible for the atrocities. The slaughter of Polish POW's at Katyn Forest as a salient example.
As a result of looking like a total tool, Raven is now obviously trying to dig up dirt on the US.
The difference will be that if he finds some, US posters will admit it, denounce it and agree that it was wrong.
The unapologetic Stalinist Soviets can't do that. Raven is one of those.
Nyet! Not my CCCP!
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They did this in Sweden too, which is why Swedish chicks love foreigners
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Circumventing the language filter
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It is not Bororda - he is hospitalized with a pendicitis for the next 10-14 days.
S!
Wolf
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All way too familiar.Still no creatvity or actual change.
Add another shade to the list.
2.2 at best
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Too much editing already. This one is done. If you cannot keep a civil tongue, then leave.