Aces High Bulletin Board

General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: MANDO on April 13, 2005, 05:08:51 PM

Title: 190 FM didnt change
Post by: MANDO on April 13, 2005, 05:08:51 PM

Confirmed online by HT.

Title: 190 FM didnt change
Post by: Grits on April 13, 2005, 05:53:11 PM

I didnt think so, but I'm glad HT confirmed it.

Title: 190 FM didnt change
Post by: Raptor on April 13, 2005, 06:07:31 PM

wishful thinking got our hopes up

Title: 190 FM didnt change
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on April 13, 2005, 08:53:32 PM

Maby its not the plane,so much as what the planes packin'

Maby x2 less 30mm would help the 190  a bit more,and maby without bomb racks it wouldnt suffer so badly the drag induced with racks,and such.

Fly the 190 with basic load out,without bombs and such,and see if shes a better fighter now than before.
Im sure Ht'cs new loadout drag feature will have a little to play in how planes will handle and perform in Ah2 now,well once they all get redone,all will be effected by diffrent loadouts and armament.

Its just keeps geting better and better.
:aok

Title: 190 FM didnt change
Post by: Kweassa on April 13, 2005, 09:04:13 PM

That's what they said to the 109s.

 Except, every 109 expert I ask online comment the same thing. From AH2 beta to the earlier versions, the 109s had that horrible wobbling destabilization at near stall conditions - which disappeared with more recent versions.


 Also, at first, Pyro said that nothing with the gunnery changed at all.. and then later confirmed that the 'hit resolution' was just made more precise. Which technically, isn't really about gunnery, but about hit detection... but generally can be considered 'gunnery change'.

 Maybe it's something like that with the 190s or 109s too. The "FM", and what it's made of, may be the same.. but something in work has definately changed.

 I've tried some fancy moves in the Fw190A-8 during combat. One thing which was particularly difficult in the 190s was the tailslide. You can go straight vertical to about 100mph, but if you pushed it to the extremes, after the plane stalls out, it would fall into a flatspin. Well, that's gone too.

 Maybe some of you experts could do it in the older 190s, but I definately could not. Now, I can do it, and I don't think its because I've suddenly become better.

Title: 190 FM didnt change
Post by: Naudet on April 14, 2005, 01:50:26 AM

Yesterday i did some mock combat against Kirin in the DA. Me FW190A5 he P38J, i was with 100% fuel load, small gun package able to stay with the P38 in a turning contest on the deck.
Even flaps in the P38J didnt help much, Kirin was only barrely able to outturn me, took ages before he could gain angles and i had to break of the runaround.
But the P38 was still way better in the looping plane.

Also it seems HT has somewhat changed the D9 topspeed. Flying autolevel at around 100ft i couldn't get more than 368mph TAS from it, which is about the speed Henning and me found to be representative for a D9 at ~4300kg with ETC504 attached.

Before the patch i think D9 managed around 375mph on the deck.

Title: 190 FM didnt change
Post by: Kweassa on April 14, 2005, 04:09:25 AM

Naudet, refer to this thread (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=147884) .

 People are discussing the effect of the new pylon/bombracks on the 190s.

Title: 190 FM didnt change
Post by: Naudet on April 14, 2005, 04:27:02 AM

Yes, could be just the additional drag from the ETC504 on the D9.

Will have to try if the ETC rack is also on, when i take of with just 100% fuel and without DT.

Title: 190 FM didnt change
Post by: straffo on April 14, 2005, 06:41:38 AM

Kweassa stop posting in the BBS and start working on some 190 skins !

I really feel naked in the MA actually !