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Title: Taiwan Weapon in WWII
Post by: Fongman on April 16, 2005, 06:23:06 AM

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Title: Taiwan Weapon in WWII
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on April 16, 2005, 08:00:37 AM

Taiwan existed in ww2 ??

strange

Title: Taiwan Weapon in WWII
Post by: bunch on April 17, 2005, 12:01:31 AM

Taiwan has been there a lot longer than just since the late 1930s

Title: Taiwan Weapon in WWII
Post by: zorstorer on April 17, 2005, 02:25:00 AM

They were Germans?

Title: Taiwan Weapon in WWII
Post by: Fruda on April 17, 2005, 03:40:57 AM

The Germans gave them equipment. I forgot how it all went, but that's what happened.

Title: Taiwan Weapon in WWII
Post by: spitfiremkv on April 17, 2005, 11:08:32 AM

I thought Taiwan was called Formosa, and that it was occupied by the japanese in WW2 :confused:

Title: Taiwan Weapon in WWII
Post by: Fongman on April 17, 2005, 06:38:13 PM

Real is:Taiwan is old china in 1911 to 1949
But this new china is 1949 to now

Title: Taiwan Weapon in WWII
Post by: spitfiremkv on April 17, 2005, 09:06:04 PM

tell me , do you know a guy named Dead?




he's a commie




commie bastard




:p :p

Title: Taiwan Weapon in WWII
Post by: Fongman on April 18, 2005, 12:10:19 AM

He???Don't
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Title: Re: Taiwan Weapon in WWII
Post by: alamwuhk2a on April 18, 2005, 07:51:58 AM

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Originally posted by Fongman
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Fongman, I think you have mixed "Taiwan" and "Republic of China" together. It is "Republic of China"(1921-1949)*. At WWII time, the Germany supports ROC and give weapons to ROC, until ROC joined Allies.


*According to the New China, "Peoples Republic of China". But nowadays "Republic of China"(Taiwan government) still called ROC.

Title: Taiwan Weapon in WWII
Post by: Fongman on April 18, 2005, 09:41:03 AM

A few period:
1.The Government of Bei-Yiang of Republic of China(1911)
2.The "Chinese Empire" by Yuen Shi-Kai(1915)
3.The Government of Bei-Yiang of Republic of China(1921)
4.The Government of Chinese Kuomintang Nan-king of Republic of China
5.The People's Republic of China(1949)

Title: Taiwan Weapon in WWII
Post by: spitfiremkv on April 18, 2005, 08:18:07 PM

I like Formosa better than Taiwan. Let's change the name and make it part of the US of A.
that way the mother****ing Chinese will not have the balls to invade it!

Title: Taiwan Weapon in WWII
Post by: Ecliptik on April 19, 2005, 12:38:56 AM

The question of Taiwanese sovereignty is confusing.  Various arguments claim that the mainland Chinese government holds legal sovereignty over Taiwan, or that Taiwan is a sole sovereign nation, or, in a small minority, that Taiwan is still a US territory officially administered by American military government. (http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit/archives/2004/11/13/2003210901)

Taiwan was seized by Japan in 1895 after the Sino-Japanese war, and Japan held the island until remaining Japanese forces there officially surrendered in October of 1945.  The island was then formally ruled by US military government, but administrative authority was given to local bodies.  Japan ceded sovereignty over Taiwan according to the 1951 San Francisco Peace Treaty, concluded between Japan and Taiwan in 1952.  There is no record of the date the US terminated military government.

When the Maoist rebels seized control of mainland China in 1949, President Chiang Kai-shek and the Kuomintang (KMT, the nationalist party), along with over a million Chinese citizens, fled to Taiwan, where they established the Republic of China (ROC) not to be confused with the communist People's Republic of China (PRC) on the mainland.  To this day the KMT claims the ROC to be the true government of all of China and wishes for reunification and the removal of the communist government.  They were defeated in a 1988 election which brought the Democratic Progressive Party into power, whose political line is less clear than the KMT, but apparently involves closer ties to the PRC while maintaining independence.  

The ROC held the Chinese seat in the UN until 1971.

The United States recognized Taiwan to be legally occupied by the ROC under Gen. MacArthur's General Order No.1 until 1972 when Nixon in communication with PRC leaders agreed that the PRC was the "lawful government" of Taiwan, but no timetable for a transfer of sovereignty was ever set, and in the 1982 "Six Assurances" to Taiwan, the US stated that it would not formally recognize Chinese sovereignty over Taiwan.

Things are still in the same state of limbo.  The US and most of the rest of the world do not recognize Taiwanese independence (you'll note there is no seperate entry for Taiwan in the CIA world factbook), but they also do not formally recognize Chinese rule.  The PRC claims the Taiwan issue to be a domestic affair despite having no adminstrative power there.

Title: Taiwan Weapon in WWII
Post by: Pongo on April 19, 2005, 04:28:48 PM

They had German Armoured cars(222s) I beleive and even a few 20mm flack and maybe even 88s.

Title: Taiwan Weapon in WWII
Post by: spitfiremkv on April 19, 2005, 07:57:01 PM

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Originally posted by Pongo
They had German Armoured cars(222s) I beleive and even a few 20mm flack and maybe even 88s.

was or was not Taiwan/Formosa occupied by the Japs?
I am utterly confused :confused:

Title: Taiwan Weapon in WWII
Post by: Ecliptik on April 19, 2005, 09:40:52 PM

Yes, it was occupied by the Japanese for all of WWII and for over 40 years before that.

Title: Taiwan Weapon in WWII
Post by: spitfiremkv on April 20, 2005, 05:33:50 PM

so who was using the German weapons shown at the beginning of this post?
The Chinese or the Japanese?

Title: Taiwan Weapon in WWII
Post by: Pongo on April 20, 2005, 06:38:25 PM

The Nationalist Chinese had alot of German kit.
It was used mostly against the Japanese.