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Title: Why I favor the Death Penalty
Post by: oboe on April 16, 2005, 08:59:41 AM
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Slain boy's short life a litany of abuse

Mother's boyfriend charged with murder; medical examiner finds evidence of more than 50 injuries

BY SHANNON PRATHER
Pioneer Press

The beating that killed 17-month-old Dakota Ryan Forss on Tuesday wasn't the little boy's first.

The St. Paul child had suffered more than 50 injuries in his short lifetime, including blows and punches to the head that caused a skull fracture, cigarette burns, blackened eyes, internal bleeding and injuries to his groin.

Large patches of hair had been pulled from the boy's head and Dakota had suffered a blow to the back so violent it bruised his lungs, the medical examiner determined.

On Friday, Joseph Rex Bell, 34, was charged with second-degree murder after admitting to police that he repeatedly abused his girlfriend's son, according to the criminal complaint filed by Ramsey County prosecutors. Bell told police he knew he would eventually kill the boy if he kept abusing him, but "just couldn't stop."

"This behavior is sadistic. A child this age is so vulnerable and the brutality that must have taken place in order to inflict these blows is beyond comprehension," said Ramsey County Attorney Susan Gaertner. "You almost have to believe that a day wouldn't go by where this child wasn't being struck or hurt."

Police said they are considering investigating Dakota's mother, Kalani Jean Forss, who told police she had witnessed Bell give her son a "brainbuster" — punching her young son in the head — and yet allowed him to be the boy's primary caregiver. Forss, 32, relied so heavily on Bell to care for Dakota, she told police, she had not fed or changed the boy's diaper in the week preceding his death. Bell is being held in lieu of $1 million bond.


Here's a link to the full story if you really want to start your day in a foul mood:
http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/11407802.htm (http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/11407802.htm)
Title: Why I favor the Death Penalty
Post by: LePaul on April 16, 2005, 09:35:28 AM
Death is too easy for a guy like that.

Permanent solitary confinement.
Title: Why I favor the Death Penalty
Post by: CavemanJ on April 16, 2005, 10:12:50 AM
life and a day, max security....

child abusers do the hardest time
Title: Why I favor the Death Penalty
Post by: Gunslinger on April 16, 2005, 10:33:26 AM
I couldnt read past the first paragraph.  That's truely horrible.  I can't beleive there are monsters like that in this world.
Title: Why I favor the Death Penalty
Post by: oboe on April 16, 2005, 10:35:55 AM
I just wish incarceration wasn't so expensive.  I don't have access to current statistics, but it seems to me I read a few years ago the average cost per inmate was something like $40,000. People like this should be permanently removed from society, as quickly and efficiently as possible.

I would prefer to have this man beaten to death.   Maybe when boxers retire, they could do this for a living or something.   Doesn't have to be a public spectacle (though I'm sure it's ratings would exceed reality TV), but the public would need open information about the proceedings and results, to guard against corruption in the system.
Title: Why I favor the Death Penalty
Post by: Maverick on April 16, 2005, 10:57:37 AM
Sentence him to life, place him in the general population with a special "I'm a child abuser / killer" uniform. Wait patiently, problem will be solved.
Title: Why I favor the Death Penalty
Post by: pugg666 on April 16, 2005, 01:10:58 PM
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Sentence him to life, place him in the general population with a special "I'm a child abuser / killer" uniform. Wait patiently, problem will be solved.


Will still cost the taxpayers money for the hopefully short period of time he's around, but IMO it's money well spent.

And by hopefully I mean 17 months.
Title: Why I favor the Death Penalty
Post by: DiabloTX on April 16, 2005, 01:12:20 PM
The mother is just as culpable as that POS boyfriend.
Title: Why I favor the Death Penalty
Post by: FUNKED1 on April 16, 2005, 01:14:25 PM
Sterilize both of them at the very least.
Title: Why I favor the Death Penalty
Post by: DiabloTX on April 16, 2005, 01:16:48 PM
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Sterilize both of them at the very least.


Can't.  It'd piss off the Eurotrolls.
Title: Why I favor the Death Penalty
Post by: Elfie on April 16, 2005, 01:55:13 PM
My youngest is 19 months now, I cant imagine anyone beating her to death like that. Or, abusing her repeatedly to cause those kinds of injuries.

The mother is just at fault in this case. She knew the abuse was happening. Help was just a phone call away, yet she did nothing.
Title: Why I favor the Death Penalty
Post by: hyena426 on April 16, 2005, 02:39:14 PM
thats pure sick....that poor little guy:(
Title: Why I favor the Death Penalty
Post by: bunch on April 17, 2005, 12:15:35 AM
Not uncommon for the new alpha male to kill the children of the previous alpha.  some say it brings female back into heat
Title: Why I favor the Death Penalty
Post by: texace on April 17, 2005, 04:05:13 AM
Give him a two hour trial, sentence him to death then drag his bellybutton out back and shoot him.
Title: Why I favor the Death Penalty
Post by: NUKE on April 17, 2005, 04:35:01 AM
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Originally posted by bunch
Not uncommon for the new alpha male to kill the children of the previous alpha.  some say it brings female back into heat


wow, you're a cuddlinghunk.
Title: Why I favor the Death Penalty
Post by: DiabloTX on April 17, 2005, 08:31:17 AM
(pssssst, Nuke, +b....)
Title: Why I favor the Death Penalty
Post by: Sandman on April 17, 2005, 02:01:03 PM
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Originally posted by bunch
Not uncommon for the new alpha male to kill the children of the previous alpha.  some say it brings female back into heat


Ahem... I don't think we're talking about cats.
Title: Why I favor the Death Penalty
Post by: RTSigma on April 17, 2005, 03:15:21 PM
Who does this? Honestly this is just plain sick.

Screw death penalty, give him AIDs and throw him on an island by himself.
Title: Why I favor the Death Penalty
Post by: lasersailor184 on April 17, 2005, 09:14:45 PM
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Death is too easy for a guy like that.

Permanent solitary confinement.



Death is not too easy.  There needs to be REAL punishments.  No more of this pansy liberal bull****.
Title: Why I favor the Death Penalty
Post by: Sandman on April 17, 2005, 09:37:58 PM
Pfft... you remove the cancer, you do not play with it.
Title: Why I favor the Death Penalty
Post by: spitfiremkv on April 17, 2005, 10:00:58 PM
this is why I favour selective sterilization :p
Title: Why I favor the Death Penalty
Post by: Gunslinger on April 17, 2005, 10:36:45 PM
Why can't there be an island like in that ray liota movie "escape" or "no escape" cant remember wich.....were we send the worst of the worst and condem them to live among there own kind on just their witts and limited recources.  

Captured terrorists piss there pants when they hear guantanamo bay cuba.....why can't there be an Island that's just as effective.
Title: Why I favor the Death Penalty
Post by: Sandman on April 17, 2005, 11:44:45 PM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Why can't there be an island like in that ray liota movie "escape" or "no escape" cant remember wich.....were we send the worst of the worst and condem them to live among there own kind on just their witts and limited recources.  


8th Amendment.
Title: Why I favor the Death Penalty
Post by: bunch on April 18, 2005, 06:17:23 AM
Well, since i'm convinced respeceted journalist Shannon Prather of the widley known & respected Pioneer Press, would never exaggerate or fabricate facts to stir up emotion, interest & advertising, I say the dude should be beaten to death with  Sandman's & Nuke's thick thick skulls
Title: Why I favor the Death Penalty
Post by: oboe on April 18, 2005, 08:58:45 AM
Just FYI,

I have never heard of Shannon Prather either, but the Pioneer Press is one of two major media companies in the Minneapolis/St Paul metro area, the other being the Minneapolis Star Tribune.

AFAIK this story has not stirred up interest in the death penalty statewide.