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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Eaglecz on September 11, 2001, 03:00:00 PM
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All of you had enought time to read it and post you reply, respond. There bit of poetics.
** Ve zlatém městě vzejde velké hromobití, dva bratry od sebe odtrhne Chaos, pevnost vydrží, avšak velký vůdce padne. Třetí velká válka začne, až bude město hořet.“ — Nostradamus, 1654 **
Most of you noticed , that im not supperior in english but i will try to translate it for you. It will not be so prety as like it is in this language , but i hope that you will understand.
** Thunder will came to golden city, two brothers will be separate by chaos, citadel will withstand, but big leader will fall. Third war will begin, when city will be on fire. Nostradamus, 1654 A.D. **
If is there somebody, who know that language and can make it beter , let he do it.
Thats all from me.
Thank you all for reply, no matter what you wrote.
[ 09-13-2001: Message edited by: EagleC ]
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Your header might as well read "FLAME ME BIG TIME!!", cause that is what is gonna happen.
Give Americans a few hours to digest this before you start wagging your finger in our faces.
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Orel/EagleC you are a jerk and on my toejamlist.
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Orel you might want to delete that post. I'm not sure what you meant, but I think it could be read in a way that could possibly result in you getting kicked off the board and/or the game.
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even as a non american pilot, I HOPE they Kick that jerk out. :mad:
No words for that!
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i didnt execpt understand from US peopels , they are just to downhearted and i see why.. no wonder... i see your angry.... just say that im bad guy .... and read it again after few days...
you are not ONYL 1 who is feel chagrined by this act
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a lot needs to be discussed with u.s. policy but now is not the time.
whatever we decide it needs to start with securing the nation, taking care of victims, then striking back hard whoever it was.
after that we'll do what we need to to avert a future incident. like considering our involvement with foreign nations.
but, now is just the time act as a nation not talk policy and certainly not to say the u.s. learned a lesson. even if you feel that way, you can't possibly be happy that it happened. :(
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Oh I see his point... Right now, we're all caught up in this seething rage and desire the taste of blood on our teeth.
Focus. Find the people who did this and destroy them with extreme prejudice.
Anything more is simply a tantrum.
[ 09-11-2001: Message edited by: Sandman_SBM ]
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Eagle I don't think you are a bad guy. I am just worried that people will read your post in the wrong way.
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM:
Focus. Find the people who did this and destroy them with extreme prejudice.
I'm sure that most everyone that's posted on this board today feels that way Sandman. I know I do. Find who is responsible for it. The deal with them and anyone who aided or supported them.
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Oh my God Eagle!!!! :mad: You cant mean it!
DOPRDELE jak muzes neco takovyho rict? Na celym svete NENI kurva NENI!! Jedinej duvod kterej by ospravedlnil tenhle zasranej zbabelej utok na civilni lidi! Pokud si myslis neco jineho ses naprostej magor! Proboha! To snad neni mozny.... :( Utok na vojenskej cil je jedna vec ale utok pri kterym zahynou desitky tisic nevinejch lidi a je KURVA jedno jestli sou to Americani, Nemci, Anglicani nebo treba Cesi! A pokud americka tajna sluzba / vlada nebo kdokoliv jiny vypatra kdo je za to odpovedny doufam ze jeho popravu budou davat v televizi v primim prenosu! Rozhodne bych si klidne vzal volno abych ji stihnul! Bohuzel si myslim ze v tomto pripade ANI SMRT neni dostatecnym trestem za to co udelali! Kurva a jestli to nechapes tak se laskave prober!
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Kurva doprdele BIRDE vem si dejepis a najdi mi co ty rpasata udelali s indanama a rekni mi jedinej duvod , proc bych kdyby to bylo od indianu , nemnel rict hosi .. dobre jim to vracite ... ale o indianech to neni ....
jo tak jsem si to ted v klidu docetl ...
no ehm toho kdo to zorganizoval, financoval,sympatizoval = popravit verejne .. klidne .. ale to neresi problem co s jejich detmi, pribuznymi, kamarady co do te doby nebyi tak radikalni .. kdy ty curaci slavej , znamena to ze jim to staci a daj pokoj ????? asi ne... cili cilem neni tech par debilu zabyt , ale predejit tomu priste
a ja jsem pro jestli to byli palestinci , at jim tam na 100 let vrthnou a normalne je kolonizujou a udelaj znich stejny sracky jako jsou , ale afgance z mapy asi nevymazou a jestli si myslej ze je necham do evropy hazet Nuky tak to se milej a jestli ho nekam mrdnou , tak dalsi nuke bude odemne knim ..
Thank you friend that you tell me that you understud .. im realy glad that MRFISH wrote those words ! and also thanks Sandman_SBM per his perfect NOTICE.
atlast thank you funked up , that you wrote you 2nd post .. now i see that you know what i wrote and i can sleep well because i know that there is few people who understud it.
no reason for talk about it now.. all has been written.
cya in few days on the sky
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Je mi lito ale to NEBYLI zadni ONI kdo zabijeli Indiany.... Pokud mozno by sis mel vzpomenout ze Ameriku osidlovali evropane... Takze sme to byli MY kdo vrzdil Indiany... MY jsme zodpovedni zadni ONI... Takze dejepis si zopakuj ty! Nejsem zastancem NUKE 'EM reseni, ale v tomto pripade je kaze reseni opravnene.... Po atentatu na 747 v Lockerbee provedly USA utok F-111 na Libii... Od te doby Libijsti teoriste defacto zmizeli ze sceny... Asi to ma smysl...
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God i never knew a man could have such a smal and cold heart i pity you EagleC I pity you.
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Eagle,
Your are nowhere near entitled to say that. Even in the mildest moment in history, even if you were american (am I right supposing you aren't?), you would not. Doing it precisely today shows extremely poor knowledge of human nature, and extremely low care about human feelings.
Your post shows that you have not even the slightest clue about history books.
If this post is the result of lack of english profficiency, don't post at all. Show a respectful silence for the ones that are suffering right now. They are a lot. :(
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EagleC
never mind .. you ain't worth it...
don't confuse me with that idiot
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Ignore Eagle he is not worth of any reaction... :(
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One of the dumbest and insensitive posts I have ever seen. Not sure what your intentions were EagleC..but I think you just made a whole lot of enemies, in AH at least. Didn't do your squad any favors either.
Olgzr
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The title is bad, the post isn't...
SKurj
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If you remotely sympathise or support this act I'll sum up American opinion..diddly you.
I hope we can make these bastards pay in full. I hope to God we can give this son of a squeak the "Jihad" he wants so badly. I hope we can make our raping of his bellybutton and any who support him make the sack of Carthage look like child's play. I wanna watch him see his loved ones, his supporters and all he belives in end in pain and terror. I want to hear him scream for mercy and tolerance and forgiveness while we make him and his suffer... once again... diddly him and anything or body that even remotely supports him. I hope they rot in hell.
Jesus NOW I know what my grandfather felt after Pearl Harbor...
xBAT
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cc SKurj
title has been interpreted bad , because my english... its just a title
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Bad English? Just a title? Lets see..we silly fat Americans that just got a "small" lesson. More Americans probably died today than in any single day of war in our history.
Just what the hell would you consider a BIG lesson?
Don't use your "bad" english to hide what you really seem to feel about us. I think we can tell.
Olgzr
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If I understand right, EagleC sudgests that US citizens should heal terrible wounds... AFTER that we all should act, all as UNITED countries against terorism... do whatever we can to bring responsible goverments, groups/ organizathions to justice....
Given such powers as US has, make no mistake... weight your steps very carefully if we want our children to grow up.
For that I second EagleC...
The title is totally fu##ed up Eagle... in day of such a tradgedy you too should weighted your words - becase they almost equal to nuke power...
My deepest condolences for those families the loved ones died this morning...
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As early as this morning I was wondering how long it would take for a title like this to appear in this forum.
:(
AKDejaVu
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I would love to take some piano wire and strangle osama bin studmuffingot. I really really would! ! ! !
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What is worse is the new bbs allows you to edit the title of the thread. Since it has not been done I can only suppose eaglec meant it the way it is written. If that is the case eaglec I suggest you fade away from the game or learn to get another handle real fast.
If I find you are flying in my country I will gladly broadcast your position and stand by while any nearby enemy plane gets a free ride to shoot you prettythang down. You can take that to the bank. I know you tried to curb the impact of the title in your post but it just doesn't make it. Like another player said, until you change the title of this thread here you are on my toejam list at the very fediddleing top. I lost at least 278 Brothers and Sisters in that terrorist act. :mad:
Mav
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and i hope all of you "anti-american" scum get to see just what a fat bloated america can do ! ! ! I would push the little red button myself...with a big glob of drool trailing to the ground and a toejam eating grin!
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Oh dont give me bad english toejam how many ways can you interparate "hmm silly american strategy is back, fat america got small lesson" well i can tell you how you diddlyer you cant take and ram it as far up your whoopee bellybutton if you dont ill do it for you........now ill be silent.......
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Orel/EagleC/Shithead,
As far as I am concerned, I cannot add what was said by many others here. Saying something like you did is VERY bad form and will not earn you any friends here. Please do yourself and everyone else here a favor and never post here again.
The barbaric acts perpetrated against innocent people here in the US on this day has brought out very strong emotions from my fellow Americans, just as it had me. Saying something as careless, thoughtless, and mean-spirited as you have has only inflamed those emotions. I would suggest a name change and a quiet departure into anonimity for quite some time (my guess would be several years). Nobody here will EVER respond to you in a dignified manner ever again (nor should they). My only hope is that you understand what you said and that you feel remorse for it.
That is it as far as I am concerned.
Piss off
-math
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Originally posted by EagleC:
calm down and think about your self because somebody else had reason to do that HORRIBLE thing
I dom\t think that tere can be ANYTHING that can justify such a senseless cowardish act of teorrism! I don't know whether does Eagle realize BUT the attack, the act carried out by a group of madmen, although it happened in the USA was NOT aimed at the USA but it was an attack aimed at the whole world WE ALL live and believe in! There is no punishment big enough for those who are behind this terrorist attack so I really hope that the punishment that will be carried out someday will be as severe as possible and will show the rest of the terrorist scum that we will not tolerate anything like this anytime anymnore! Sorry but I am still just pissed off not only by the terrorist attack itself but also because someone can actually feel about it the way Eagle does :mad:
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I am concerned that Orel put up that post and would like to add that it in no way represents the views of any other members of the squad and I hope that we will not be all tarred with the same brush as Orel
Adjuster
"Firebirds" 56 (Fighter) Squadron - RAF
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Originally posted by EagleC:
Its incredible how silly americans are after 500 Years. We have been attacked .. KILL THEM ALL... is it way out of comflict ? May be in US films, but not in long time reality. Check who is your opponent. Check their history, check your history... check history of rest of world .. and then THINK about SOLUTION.
those silly NUKE them or KILL them is realy SHOW of you poor origin.
calm down and think about your self because somebody else had reason to do that HORRIBLE thing
wish You all SAFE and long LIFE
"calm down and think about your self because somebody else had a reason to do that HORRIBLE thing"
And what reason is that? He's jealous because America is so prosperous? Someone in the WTC emailed him a nekkid picture of his mother?
Or are you suggesting that we should just tank our Constitution and Bill of Rights and change our country?
No matter what there's always going to be someone somewhere that will not like us. I don't care if they like us or not. I don't care if you like us or not. You just lumped yourself into the same boat as Bin Laden in my book bud.
Two words: DWEEB HUNT!
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EagleC
Even if im not an USA citizien, i feel offended by the tone of your post.
We have been witness of a crime against democracy and every free man has to feel hit by this bestiality; its not the moment to give judgement, and anyway the use of terms like "fat america" "lesson" and the phrase about "poor origin" makes me shudder, this is racism!!
I hope your words are not what u real think
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EagleC, you really did it this time.
I dont give toejam about what your sick and disturbed ideas are, you are not worthy being noticed for that. But to write things like these less than 24 hours after the disaster!
By doing this you have shown a complete lack of social skills. A complete abscence of human dignity. Like you do not care about others, as if you are socially so disturbed that you think people do not have feelings. EagleC: You just seriously made my ignore list. And I dont care if you care.
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Originally posted by Adjuster:
I am concerned that Orel put up that post and would like to add that it in no way represents the views of any other members of the squad and I hope that we will not be all tarred with the same brush as Orel
Adjuster
"Firebirds" 56 (Fighter) Squadron - RAF
Only if you promise to not organize other tiffie raids on knight's fields. ;)
EagleC... no comment.
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Originally posted by Adjuster:
I am concerned that Orel put up that post and would like to add that it in no way represents the views of any other members of the squad and I hope that we will not be all tarred with the same brush as Orel
Adjuster
"Firebirds" 56 (Fighter) Squadron - RAF
Tar and feather the bastard, and if you give him sanctuary, I'll head on you guys every chance I can :)
Sounds like good reason to be ejected from a squad....
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Exactly the same thing could happen to anyone on Russian forums, after explosions in Moscow...
I just imagine any alien foreigner saying that it's because evil Russians bombed proud Chechens. BTW, I still remember some people here blaming Russians for explosions in Moscow last summer, and saying that Chechens simply have nothing else to do. :(
The title isn't very smart.
The post isn't in a good English, and it makes it sound offencive. I bet he didn't mean it.
One of the Russian politicians said yesterday that the problem is that things like this happen as the result of a double-standards in dealing with terrorists.
What sadly surprised me was that every hour on Euronews they showed Reagan announcing the bobming of Lybia in 1986, and Clingon in 1998 declaring bombings of Afghanistan. Why didn't they show us Lindon Johnson starting the Hanoi air raids?...
The best answer on such a terrible act should be to find EVERY bastard that took part in preparing it and then execute him, so that the whole world will know that noone can escape justice. And the hardest, but the most impotant part of it is not to act in anger.
Do your best to find them, and believe me, you can rely on Czechs, Russians or Serbs, on every sane person. I hope we all will be able to help you.
I sound pathetic again, but I really wish we'll find them, and find them fast.
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Well put.
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Originally posted by Adjuster:
I am concerned that Orel put up that post and would like to add that it in no way represents the views of any other members of the squad and I hope that we will not be all tarred with the same brush as Orel
Adjuster
"Firebirds" 56 (Fighter) Squadron - RAF
May I apologise on behalf of the Firebirds for 'Orels' provocative BBS post. I have messaged him privately asking for an edit or re-title on this said post. We are all upset with his post as you are. This of course will not take away the bitter taste in your mouths and whatever happens to Orel will not make this terrible terrorist strike disappear.
Being British I have grown up in a culture of terrorism and therefore can truly sympathise with everyone who has suffered in this terrible and cowardly act.
One of the Firebirds pilots, Spider, is an American Firefighter and he could have easily been involved, so please do not persecute the Firebirds.
God bless all of you.
Regards
Nexx
(http://www.btinternet.com/~nexx/56sig.gif)
[ 09-12-2001: Message edited by: Replicant ]
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Nexx,
As much as I dislike saying it. This twit does carry your squad colors and as a result reflects on your squad. I know you much better than to think he is speaking for you.
Mav
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This is not the place for a badly worded post on such a sensitive subject, whatever the intention. That title is really harsh.
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Guys, as much as I disagree with Orel he has a right to state his opinion and views just as much as we do. He used extremely poor judgment here, particularly in the timing of his post, but consider first that he does not have a complete understanding of English and things start to fall into place.
"Two wrongs don't make a right," could well replace that first portion. The second part was just completely ill-advised this soon after such a cowardly attack. Five words like that can really sting, but I don't think he intended to take a stab at us. No, I think ignorance is at the forefront here.
We don't need to run off any fliers, or gamers, because some religious fanatic acted in a cowardly way (even having cost us so dearly).
Orel, I strongly suggest you say your apologies before it is too late.
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I've talked to dozens of muslims, and regardless of where they are from, almost all try to justify this act, and categorize it as a great victory against the US. One even asked me if I trust in my government anymore since they demonstrated that they are "unable to protect me". This one who said that was once a good friend of mine, and I don't expect to ever talk to her again. They also cite the attack on Iraq, and conveniently forget Hussein's attack on Kuwait first. They also mention the people dancing in the streets in Indonesia, and Jordan, not to mention other countries mentioned on the media.
Some questions.
How can these people be intelligent? One minute they're trying desperately to get out of their countries because they are such toejam holes, and the next, when a horrible, cowardly, sneak attack happens to succeed against a country like the US they suddenly become PATROITS! What the hell?? Are they civilized humans or animals? Will anyone here forget how uncivilized these people are, after it's all over, and rip into the US goverment, condemning the US's actions in attempting to cure this disease? (no, I know all muslims aren't bad, just the ones who justify this attack in any way, shape or form)
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By the way,
Our soldiers aren't "fat", but they are well equipt, trained, and motivated.
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I've read through this thread 10 times now... and I just can't figure out what this tragedy has taught the FDBs anybody that it didn't teach the rest of us.
AKDejaVu
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first and formost i know that i speak for the sqd when i say that we do not agree with the statments that have been made every sqd member is absolutly 100%behind america in whatever is decieded, we all feel numb from what happened yesterday it was a very sad day indeed and i hope i never see another in my lifetime
our thoughts and prayers go out to u all
orel plse respond asap to the messages u have
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FLt Lt Skyman
Exec Officer 56 Firebirds "fiter" Squadron RAF
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what country is this creep from. what language is that?
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small translate from those ponderous metaphor.
fat america = big country with aprox 240. bil people, with substandard security standarts, norm and int. attitude(will explain in few days)
small lesson= You still do not realize what you are.
wrote this because there is too many bad words about Name of my post, im sorry for that bad name, was mistake make so aggresive NAME.
your notes about my english, my native language... :rolleyes: no comment
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Its time for Rip's favorite euphimism:
When you find yourself in a hole, the first thing you should do is stop digging.
AKDejaVu
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that was a slight bit inapropriate
[ 09-12-2001: Message edited by: Hobodog ]
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oh man...
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Looks like Hobodog edited his wildly pathetic caption. Forgot exactly what it said but it ended with "...this Negro."
Totally disgusting.
[ 09-12-2001: Message edited by: Nash ]
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What name does this idiot fly under??
Here's a hint for you eaglec, your last post did nothing to make things better. :mad:
Mav
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Good lord... trot out a photo of a black lynching and use it as a threat.
This entire thread disgusts me.
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Okay, you pulled your post, I take mine back too, hobo. Thank you.
[ 09-14-2001: Message edited by: majic ]
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I'm so stupid ...
just shot in my feet
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A/cpt straffo
[ 09-13-2001: Message edited by: straffo ]
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I find it hard to respond to this very sad thread. Calling for contemplation during a time of such emotional upheaval is to risk being accused of not understanding, which is certainly not the case. Without reservation I offer my condolences and sadness to the US and all the nationalities caught up in this sickening act. Huge numbers of US citizens have died and already there is an estimate of several hundred British dead to which will be added the many other Nationalities.
If Eaglec meant what has been the popular interpretation of his post then enough has already and rightly been said in condemnation.
If he was trying to say the world must tread carefully and be sure before acting and also reflect on history and it's causes then there is some value in that. This is a terribly emotional time in which people will find it hard to pause and think.
If he was trying to condone what has taken place then he is absolutely and incredibly wrong. Nothing can justify the use of such measures in any cause. But I find it hard to believe that could be his point.
Personally I hope this thread will end here and that HT will remove it. If Eaglec had some misunderstood point to make then perhaps with the help of a translator he will re-post his thoughts in words we can all understand. And he may care to consider the timing.
Finally, as a proud member of the Firebirds Squad, I would say that this thread has nothing to do with the squad. I don't know of any squad that screens it's members for personal views or politics. That is one of the blessings of the internet.
klem
"Firebirds" 56 (Punjab) Sqn - RAF
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Nice picture thunder :D
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eaglec,
Look at that picture carefully. You see the feet sticking out of that pile? That is pretty much where your title and posts on this thread have placed you. It's self inflicted here. Another hint is the distancing of your squaddies from your "opinions" here.
You are, however, still at the top of a few "lists".
Mav
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Wow i had a look at that picutre again .... its all you can say,produce about my question .: Are you afraid that next attack will be follow ?
sutch a superrior answer ... let show me more of your funny pictures
:rolleyes:
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You joining the terrorist side eaglec??? Your posts certainly seem to try to justify their actions.
If you are going to be at the next attack let us know. I'd be hapy to welcome you.
Mav
[ 09-15-2001: Message edited by: Maverick ]
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Originally posted by Maverick:
You joining the terrorist side eagler???
Mav
Are you asking Eagler or eaglec ?
If you are asking me, and those words are for me, then i have 1 question for you.
Did you do somethink what should stop things like this in futhure? I dont think so, because there is only very few people whitch asking why was our 'holy' country attacked ?
what do you think about those Afghanian whitch attacked city with military missiles with horizontal trajectory ? :rolleyes:
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I have just read through every word of this thread, and I cannot even begin to express words which adequately describe Orel/EagleC's total insensitivity. As 3IC of the 56th I fully stand behind skyman and nexx and I'm sure Vladd when I say that Orel does in no way represent the views of the firebirds. From the posts I have been reading, all firebirds have been rightly respectful and sympathetic over this weeks incomprehensible events.
I would further formally ask Orel out of respect for the 56th Firebirds to stop using the firebirds name in these posts, i.e. please remove from your signature if you wish to continue this. I further personally call on you Orel to please make a full and unreserved apology to those people already traumatised by the events themselves and whom you have further offended. Orel we have flown together on many occasions and had great fun, but I cannot in all conscience continue to fight along side you while I know that this is how you feel.
Perhaps your english let you down. If so please explain this to all those who posted to this thread.
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eaglec,
Those words were indeed intended for you. I apologize to Eagler for misspelling your handle as his. I will edit that post to correct the spelling.
As to the missiles in whatever country you are talking about, you will have to stop hiding behind an anonymous handle and identify what country you are talking about. You conveniently neglected to list in your profile a country or e-mail or name of any kind.
It has become obvious to me that (IMO) you are a supporter of those animals who committed the acts on Sept. 9th. You have tried to justify their acts and I find that and you disgusting. You have done nothing to cause me to form any different opinion of you.
In partial answer to your last post, I have served my country and community both in the Army and in a civilian Police Department. I am now retired from both and wish I weren't. I'd be on my way to report as soon as I got orders to duty. I hope they do allow a call up of retirees.
Mav
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wasting my time
[ 09-16-2001: Message edited by: klem ]
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Ditto
[ 09-16-2001: Message edited by: klem ]
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If any one else supose that my attitude is same like my friends attitude , whitch do no speak here... so he is a bit stupid. If you have somethink on you heart what you wanna say to me, then say it to me, do not ask my friens.
If any of my friend has been squeaking instead of me then im sorry per our friends from Ah, whitch didnt catch , that there is OREL under every post... there`s no 56..... there is Orel of ... if you see reason for squeaking my friends, you should start with out president.