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Title: Trap the windows key!
Post by: Krusty on April 17, 2005, 04:07:09 PM
A humble plea from a poor sod who has been in a low furball, angling down on an opponent, ready to fire, hits "Z" and finds out that his hands were in the wrong place as he minimizes AH2 with the Windows menu key.

It happens at least once every sortie. I'm not kidding. Some of the time I have enough alt/AOA to let me get back before I die. Most of the time I do not have this luck.

Can you program AH to trap this key? We will still have CTRL-ESC, we will still have ALT-TAB, and so forth.
Title: Trap the windows key!
Post by: frank3 on April 17, 2005, 04:12:34 PM
Remap the key.
Title: Trap the windows key!
Post by: plank on April 17, 2005, 04:16:56 PM
You can also disable the windows key entirely in the registry. I can dig up the info if you're interested.
Title: Trap the windows key!
Post by: Krusty on April 17, 2005, 04:31:51 PM
Frank, maybe, I'll try it shortly, but it's still annoying. And now it'll do whatever it's mapped for instead of zooming (when I hit the wrong damn key -- AGAIN!)

Plank: I use the WinKey. It's helpful in many instances.
Title: Trap the windows key!
Post by: Grits on April 17, 2005, 04:35:35 PM
My keyboard doesnt have a winblows key anymore, they pop right out. :)
Title: Trap the windows key!
Post by: frank3 on April 17, 2005, 04:38:55 PM
I had something similar, when I hit alt+tab, and afterwards returned to AH, the colors were messed up (paint colors) and had to restart...
Title: Trap the windows key!
Post by: Morpheus on April 17, 2005, 04:42:16 PM
I know how you feel.

I just remapped the bail out (enter x3) junk after bailing out with 10 kills the other night in a tempest.

Why I waited all these years to remap it is a good question. Lazy. :P
Title: Trap the windows key!
Post by: frank3 on April 17, 2005, 04:49:21 PM
How on earth can you "accidently" hit enter 3 times??
Title: Trap the windows key!
Post by: Krusty on April 17, 2005, 04:51:41 PM
It counts the "ENTER" at the end of a chat box, that sends your text out. If you type fast, like I do, you can hit enter 3 times fast enough to bail.

I have since shown more restraint, and typed slower and less frequently
Title: Trap the windows key!
Post by: frank3 on April 17, 2005, 04:53:12 PM
That reminds me of a lancaster nightbombing raid where I said you get nightvision goggles by pressing enter 3 times....
Title: Trap the windows key!
Post by: plank on April 17, 2005, 04:53:28 PM
Why bail out at all? I disabled that junk a long time ago. It's a much faster ride in the plane :)
Title: Trap the windows key!
Post by: Furball on April 17, 2005, 04:58:33 PM
i mapped my windows keys out using a screwdriver.
Title: Trap the windows key!
Post by: Krusty on April 17, 2005, 05:20:31 PM
Frank: You currently cannot map it in AH. There's no option. Not supported. I use the keyboard a lot. I started in DOS and have been typing all my life. Even in other sims I have 1 hand on keyboard and 1 hand on stick. I have fast enough reflexes that I can get away with this, I suppose.

But that WinKey is still bugging me (only in AH mind you, I use it often outside of AH)
Title: Trap the windows key!
Post by: Morpheus on April 17, 2005, 05:22:30 PM
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Originally posted by frank3
How on earth can you "accidently" hit enter 3 times??


Very simple really.

I type very fast and I dont use Vox. It didnt happen often. Hardly at all to be honest. But after that I figured it'd be wise to get rid of it.

And yup. Riding it down is much faster and perferred.
Title: Trap the windows key!
Post by: vorticon on April 17, 2005, 05:55:10 PM
take a peice of thick paper or thin cardboard and slide it under the key when you play.
Title: Trap the windows key!
Post by: zmeg on April 17, 2005, 06:54:59 PM
There is a free app called "I Hate This Key" that will disable the windows key.
Title: Trap the windows key!
Post by: Ecliptik on April 17, 2005, 08:27:26 PM
Unfortunately I actually LIKE the windows key when not gaming.  It's used as part of the hotkey shortcuts for most of the native components and functions in Windows (windows+e for Explorer, windows+r for Run, windows+l for FUS, etc).  It's very handy when I'm working and I need to navigate quickly.  Unfortunately it can also interfere with games.  So it would be nice if it were possible for AH and other games to block this key.
Title: Trap the windows key!
Post by: tactic on April 17, 2005, 08:38:44 PM
As others have said....... just REMOVE THE KEY itself... they pop right off the keyboard.... little ol'screwdriver will do the Trick...... disabled bam!
 edit:  then put it back when your done gaming  ...
:p
Title: Trap the windows key!
Post by: cav58d on April 17, 2005, 09:23:34 PM
HITECH- Can we hear your opinion on this?

I have found myself in many a furball...heck, even RTB and trying to hit autopilot (X) and accidently hit the windows key ending with my demise.........

I understand I can easily pop the key out, but I do use the key when running other windows applications....and quit frankly, im not one to destroy a machine that i purchased with my money...

HTC would it be that difficult to disable to windows key in the next patch?

please give us some feedback



Cav58D
Title: Trap the windows key!
Post by: mechanic on April 18, 2005, 02:31:31 AM
you guys don't know the worst of it.

AH auto-minimises for me about once every 20 mins or so.

and yes bailing out is A) a waste of time B) frustrating untill you remap it.
Title: Trap the windows key!
Post by: TexMurphy on April 18, 2005, 02:57:03 AM
Quote
Originally posted by mechanic
AH auto-minimises for me about once every 20 mins or so.


Make sure to shut down all programs that give popups, anti virus programs, messengers, ect ect.

Tex
Title: Trap the windows key!
Post by: Eagler on April 18, 2005, 10:07:44 AM
zoom should be on your jstick :)
Title: Trap the windows key!
Post by: Krusty on April 18, 2005, 10:58:50 PM
I got 1 trigger and 3 buttons on my stick. I find I need them for fire pri, fire sec, select sec, and check 6. I got 4 more on the base and those are flaps up/down, damage, and brakes. No more buttons lol
Title: Trap the windows key!
Post by: Eagler on April 19, 2005, 08:39:21 AM
ya need a stick with at least two hats on it

one for views and other for zoom on/off, in/out
Title: Trap the windows key!
Post by: Krusty on April 19, 2005, 12:13:12 PM
A lot of us can't afford sticks like that. I'm content to use the keyboard, as I bet 90% of all other pilots are. I just wish HTC would implement WinKey trapping.
Title: Trap the windows key!
Post by: tactic on April 19, 2005, 01:50:04 PM
Popping key on and off wont hurt nothing, and a joy stick with buttons start at 20.00 bucks....     lol.. try this... turn your keyboard upside down then your win key is at the top, outa your way.  lmao!
Title: Trap the windows key!
Post by: vorticon on April 19, 2005, 02:04:33 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Eagler
ya need a stick with at least two hats on it

one for views and other for zoom on/off, in/out


i find veiwing is easier and more "natural" with the keyboard, plus with the keyboard your thumb is free to press other buttons while your looking around...
Title: Quick Easy fixes
Post by: Clifra Jones on April 19, 2005, 02:10:03 PM
Hear are some quick fixes for your troubles. You can run these before you play and them re-enable them.

To disable these keys save the following text to a file with the file names listed above the ---cut--- line
(Sorry for the line breaks, don't know why it does that. Each entry should be on one line.)

disable_left_windows_keys.reg
-----cut---
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout]
"Scancode Map"=hex:00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,02,00,00,00,00,00,5B,E0,00,00,00,00
------cut-------

disable_right_windows_key.reg
------cut------
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout]
"Scancode Map"=hex:00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,02,00,00,00,00,00,5C,E0,00,00,00,00
----cut----

disable_both_windows_keys.reg
---cut---
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout]
"Scancode Map"=hex:00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,03,00,00,00,00,00,5B,E0,00,00,5C,E0,00,00,00,00
---cut---

remove_scancode_mappings.reg (restores your default setup)
----cut----
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout]
"Scancode Map"=-
----cut----


Hope this is usefull.