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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SunTracker on April 17, 2005, 04:35:24 PM
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Its June 1944. Name the best plane for the job
Long range bomber escort: P-51D
High alt interception of unescorted bombers:Fw-190A8
High alt interception of escorted bombers:Me262
Anti-shipping missions:B-25H
Short range dogfight:Spitfire mk14
Airfield attack:P-47D
Feel free to add more categories or change aircraft choices.
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B-52
Actually, I still think they should add the B-29 and have it cost 1000 perks.
Of course, the armament is the nuke.
:D
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While to my knowledge it was never used in exactly the way you describe; I'd think the Mossie would be better suited to the A8's role; in the way you've classified it above.
I think the short range fighter could be a very close match between the Spit and the Temp; alt would play a deciding role; and at higher alts, the SpitIX in some versions would be frighteningly good.
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P38- Everything.
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B5N - Torching
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Close infantry support, F4U
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Long range bomber escort: P-47D
High alt interception of unescorted bombers: Ta-152
High alt interception of escorted bombers: Me262 or Ta-152
Anti-shipping missions: Swordfish
Short range dogfight: F6F
Airfield attack:P-38
Infantry Support: P-39 in the PTO it rocked in this role
Karaya
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too go after high alt unescorted or escorted bombers,no one even mentioned the Me-109 G-10.
Climbs too 20-K in under 6 mins.
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Long range bomber escort: P-51D
High alt interception of unescorted bombers: FW190A8 or Me-110G
High alt interception of escorted bombers: Me262
Anti-shipping missions: TBM / Mossie
Short range dogfight: Spitfire
Airfield attack: P-47D
Infantry Support: P-38 / FW190F8 / P47D
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Long range bomber escort: P-51D
High alt interception of unescorted bombers: P-47D or Bf 109 G-10
High alt interception of escorted bombers: Me262
Anti-shipping missions: TBM / Ju88 / Ju87
Short range dogfight: Yak9U
Airfield attack: P-47D / F4U-1C / Typhoon
Infantry Support: P47D / Typhoon / F4U-1D
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Nothing beats the Pony for range.
Focke Wulfs (excepting the D-9) are notoriously horrible at high alt performance. While the venerable 109 may lack the firepower of an A8, it climbs to alt much quicker and is more maneuverable at high altitude than the FW. I also chose the P-47 because of its superb high altitude performance and toughness. While not my choice for a "scramble" defense vs high alt buffs, were it already at altitude there is not much that could outrun it up high, and 8 x .50 cals would be more than effective.
To intercept bombers in formation you need speed and big guns to do the work fast and in as few passes as possible. Even moreso when there are escorts about to make the work more hazardous. The Me262 has the guns, and the speed, but even it cant compare to the combination available on the 163. I did not choose it because I wasnt sure I could trust my memory on when it first saw service (I was thinking early '45). If it was available in '44, then it would be my choice hands down. *Note that no limit was put on the question in regards to amount of service seen or numeric availability, only the plane choice for the job.*
The Ju87 has obvious limits, although if interception is not an issue, the Stuka performed this service admirably early on. The TBM is recognized as the king of the torpedo bombers for its speed and lethality in delivering its payloads. The Ju88 is often overlooked in an anti-shipping role, although it is outfitted with torpedos. It's a little large for a torpedo bomber, but it does have good speed and good coverage from its rear guns. Given ample diversion for AA by fighters, the Ju88 could easily deliver a deadly blow to a carrier group in formation, and its gunners could well defend it against attacks by fighter cover.
Short range, given the ability to rearm, nothing beats the Yak9. In the right hands it can turn with the spits, run down Focke Wulfs and even Ponys under the right circumstances. It's fairly tough for its size, and its guns are lethal (though the numeric lack and low ammo counts require good gunnery skills and the ability to rearm in an extended fight). It's small size makes it a small target, and it has a good ROC and good speed despite its lack of WEP.
Airfield attack and Infantry support I go with the same planes, only excepting which version of the F4U I choose for the different roles. The -1C is more useful in base attacks, as its cannons are more useful vs hardy targets, while the -1D is more available, and the 6 x .50s more than adequate for troop support. The Hog and the Jug are chosen for obvious reasons. Both are tough, fast, haul unbelievable amounts of ordnance to a target, and make very stable gunnery platforms. The Typhoon also is very underrated in AH for its ground attack capability, for which it was most famous. It's rockets are specifically designed AP rounds, and its 4 x 20mm Hispanos are deadly to anything that gets in front of them. Only its low ammo count and short range (and less available ordnance) make it secondary to the American iron.
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What morph said.
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Originally posted by TalonX
Actually, I still think they should add the B-29 and have it cost 1000 perks.
Of course, the armament is the nuke.
:D
YEAH@!!#@@$%@#!##!$#$!
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Recon - Mosquito
Unescorted High Alt Bomber - Mosquito
Anti Shipping - Mosquito
Low Level Hit and Run - Mosquito
Nightfighter - Mosquito
Intruder - Mosquito
Pathfinder - Mosquito
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I like the Mossie. Wish we had more variants. There was one model that carried a 4000 lb bomb. THAT would be a fun squad mission :) :) :).
Gotta pull the old Mossie book out.
To add to the list:
Best plane for playing 'possum in a furball: A-20
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Long-Range Bomber-Escort:
P51D
High-Alt Interception of Unescorted Bombers:
Up to 30k: Bf 109G-10 with WGr21 Rockets
Above 30k: Ta 152H (Late 1944)
High-Alt Interception of Escorted Bombers:
Ta 152H or Me262
Anti-Shipping Missions:
A-20G , Ju 87D , Ju 88A
Short-Range Dogfight:
Fw 190D-9
Airfield Attack:
F4U-1C
Other Categories:
Emergency, High-Speed, Ground-Target Killer:
Ar 234B (Does July, 1944 count?
Single-Plane Town Killer (in game):
A-20G
Low-Alt Interception of Escorted or Unescorted Bombers:
Fw 190A-8 or Bf 110G-2 (30mms! :aok)
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I want the mossie with the 6lb. cannon in the nose!
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B-25H with radar aimed 75mm could have definately been best anti-tank plane in WW2.
This B-25H with radar actually flew a few anti-tank sorties in the Pacific.
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Ok, since you limeys already have the ultimate everything plane (mosquito). You don't get to whine anymore when we ask for more (yes yes more! bwahahahahaa) US planes.
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typhoon was the most feared plane by the german army...fact
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Incorrect; It's armament was.
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its armament isnt a plane.
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Exactly ;)
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Long range bomber escort: Hurricane MkI
High alt interception of unescorted bombers: P-40B
High alt interception of escorted bombers: D3A
Anti-shipping missions: C.202
Short range dogfight: B5N
Airfield attack: Spit V
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Originally posted by Furball
Recon - Mosquito
Unescorted High Alt Bomber - Mosquito
Anti Shipping - Mosquito
Low Level Hit and Run - Mosquito
Nightfighter - Mosquito
Intruder - Mosquito
Pathfinder - Mosquito
:)
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Its June 1944. Name the best plane for the job
Long range bomber escort:ME(BV)-155B-1
High alt interception of unescorted bombers:109 G10-U4
High alt interception of escorted bombers:109 G10
Anti-shipping missions:109 G6-R1
Short range dogfight:109G10
Airfield attack:109 G6-R2
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Recon - F-5 Recon (P-38)
Unescorted/Escorted High Alt Bomber - 109-G6/R6 or the Jug
Anti Shipping - The Saucy Mossie!
Low Level Hit and Run - Typhoon, or the 190 F-8
Furballer - Spit 1A (yep I said it...turn and burn baby) Or my second favorite the 109F4
Long Range bomber escort : P-38 w/ drop tanks. Really really really long range, maybe then I'll pull out a pony... But if I'm fly'n a Mustang it's gonna be a P-51B ;)
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Oh...and one more category that I forgot before...
High Speed Medical Evac: P-38
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y70/BigTon/F-5B_01.jpg)
Yep... those are ambulance pods boys... man that would be one hel...errr heck of a ride :lol
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* Long range bomber escort
Probably the P-51D. Not much competition for any side, since no other country was doing long range bombing missions anyway. For whatever reasons, the P-38 was grossly unpopular for most of the USAAF pilots(whether SOME liked it or not), and the P-51D would fly longer and perform better than the P-47D in most aspects.
* High alt interception of unescorted bombers
Ta152H wasn't available until October of 1944, so it can't be a real contendor in June 1944. P-51s or P-47s would certainly have the performance to fly high alt interception, but .50 armament is undesirable for shooting down bombers. So, considering that there would need to be significant numbers in service, wielding proper armament that would do the job, the Fw190A-8 would indeed be the only real choice. Mebbe if the P-51s or P-47s would ever equip 30mms, it'd fare better.
* High alt interception of escorted bombers
Me262, no doubt.
* Anti-shipping missions
Would there be a really serious need for anti-shipping planes in the ETO? I'm not sure about that. Thus, considering the circumstances, I'd say the PTO USN dive bombers would probably among the best.
* Short range dogfight
Spitfires, both the Mk.9 and the Mk.14 would be sufficient.
* Airfield attack
P-38s. No doubt.
* Infantry Support
IL-2. Resilient, tough, well armed, and tank-busting
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Best fer airfield attack is 110--2 1k eggs, 4 100lb eggs..zillion 20mm and 30mm---can kill all 3 fh, or 2 fh and 1 vh, so the rest can vulch;
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Originally posted by SunTracker
Its June 1944. Name the best plane for the job
Long range bomber escort: P-51D
High alt interception of unescorted bombers:Fw-190A8
High alt interception of escorted bombers:Me262
Anti-shipping missions:B-25H
Short range dogfight:Spitfire mk14
Airfield attack:P-47D
Feel free to add more categories or change aircraft choices.
p47 out killed and made enemy worry 51 was late \bloomer
hi alt intercept 109k
anti shipping lancs
or the b26 skip bombers
short range dog fight all depends when during war. ZEKE was good 109e and f now you go based on kills 109 in all verisons would have to be best.
La7 wup the p51 in ww2 in one of its only encounters but then it all depends who pilot is........................... ...
Your input would lead some to think only americans and germans were in war. russians shot down more german planes then any other country...............Russian woman aces had more kills then many of out top aces..........
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Originally posted by gnubee
Oh...and one more category that I forgot before...
High Speed Medical Evac: P-38
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y70/BigTon/F-5B_01.jpg)
Yep... those are ambulance pods boys... man that would be one hel...errr heck of a ride :lol
LOL good way to sucker someone you dont like much to go for a ride with ya.
Get up to alt and "DT's away!!! Ooops"
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Originally posted by Kweassa
* Anti-shipping missions
Would there be a really serious need for anti-shipping planes in the ETO? I'm not sure about that. Thus, considering the circumstances, I'd say the PTO USN dive bombers would probably among the best.
Is the Atlantic ETO? and if not; where is it?
More tonnage lost there than anywhere else; and some of the biggest (if not the biggest) naval engagements.
Don't forget the traditional Allied/Brit stratergy of blockade.
Plenty of ship strikes going on :)
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Originally posted by Morpheus
P38- Everything.
ya, what he said! hehe
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Long range bomber escort: P-51D
High alt interception of unescorted bombers: Bf 109 G-10 with gondies
High alt interception of escorted bombers: Me262
Anti-shipping missions: Beaufighter/Mosquito
Short range dogfight: Spit VIII or XIV
Airfield attack: P-47D
Infantry Support: Typhoon
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Originally posted by gnubee
Oh...and one more category that I forgot before...
High Speed Medical Evac: P-38
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y70/BigTon/F-5B_01.jpg)
Yep... those are ambulance pods boys... man that would be one hel...errr heck of a ride :lol
Interesting aside -
British Army Scout helicopters in the medivac role had a sign inside the stretcher pods that said "Do not worry, you are not dead", or words to those effect.