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Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on April 19, 2005, 02:23:47 PM
From the lair of one of L.A.'s builder where I like to hide from work.


Heaven on Earth :D
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/82_1113938314_bluetail003.jpg)

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/82_1113938448_bluetail004.jpg)

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/82_1113938475_bluetail007.jpg)

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/82_1113938500_bluetail011.jpg)


A 2005 Top Gun winner, I would bet.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/82_1113938524_bluetail012.jpg)

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/82_1113938556_bluetail016.jpg)
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: JB73 on April 19, 2005, 02:29:10 PM
if that crashed into a house it would kill someone


that's amazing they make RC planes that big


yuo could fit a full sized 2nd grader in that and fly them around LOL
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: Skuzzy on April 19, 2005, 02:37:41 PM
That's not big JB.  Saw an SR-71 one day.  18 feet long.  I wish I had pictures of it.  I have seen an even larger B52 as well.

There are some large RC's out there.
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: eagl on April 19, 2005, 02:40:03 PM
I'd really like an RC F-15 or F-18.  Right now I don't even have a workbench so my RC stang is in a box in the garage, accumulating hangar rash for no good reason.
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: Skuzzy on April 19, 2005, 02:52:43 PM
I have an F-15 eagl.  It's without engines right now as I am trying to convert from fanjet to turbine.
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: Staga on April 19, 2005, 03:06:01 PM
http://www.aviationexplorer.com/remote_control_rc_concorde_turbine_engines.htm
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: ChickenHawk on April 19, 2005, 03:12:06 PM
Wow!  Beautiful Panther.  Love to see more.
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: midnight Target on April 19, 2005, 04:09:07 PM
That guy must do movie models.
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: Nilsen on April 19, 2005, 04:23:00 PM
Would be great if they gave them camera pods.
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on April 19, 2005, 04:27:01 PM
For those who wonder, the completed weight is 42lbs, which is in limit of the Top Gun max weight.

Costed 30K, which is not much compared to the previous Top Gun winner, the 81K scratch built Dragonfly that can be seen in the first picture.

The Panther has all the goodies u would expect, working "top fuse cooling trap doors", lights, rivets, panel lines, working tail hook, tail bump, flaps, air brakes ...
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: Sandman on April 19, 2005, 04:50:36 PM
Can you imagine how sick you would feel if you broke one of them?
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: Skuzzy on April 19, 2005, 04:53:54 PM
By the time you reach that skill level, you just get ticked off at yourself for crashing as you know better.
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: JB35 on April 19, 2005, 04:56:23 PM
Hey Skuzzy .....

 you are aware your in Texas and the wonders of Duct Tape dont you ?
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: Skuzzy on April 19, 2005, 05:01:09 PM
Hehe, you will not find one piece of duct tape on my F15.

However, I do have a F16 which had to have emergency surgery due to a mishap and to get the pieces home I did use the magic silver stuff to retain them all.
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: LePaul on April 19, 2005, 05:18:44 PM
Err, arent those turbines like $3k each?  Or have they come down in price some?

There's some fun ducted fans out there these days, even Almost Ready to Fly and electrics.
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: Skuzzy on April 19, 2005, 05:22:36 PM
Depends on the turbine (thrust, electronics, controls..) LePaul.  You can pay up to $25K for them.

I have nothing against ducted fan.  I used them for years.  One day a guy came to the field sporting a MiG21 (? not sure if that is the right number), and lit it up.  I fell in love immediately, and have been saving since then.
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: LePaul on April 19, 2005, 05:27:17 PM
I bought my house last year.  One morning in May, I'm hearing this odd buzzing sound.  Then an hour later, kind of a whooshing sound.

I go outside and low and behold, I'm just across the field from the local RC Club.  Of course!  Great spot!  Right on the approach end of a very busy international airport!  

Those guys have had some amazing planes up and flying.  Im not precisely sure what it was...either a Mig 29 model or a F-15...but it was deinately turbine as everytime and leveled out, man that thing just hummed along fast.  Then when he turned so the exhaust was pointed your way, ther was that unmistakable jet sound.

What's the "range" on a kit like that?  I imagine it wouldnt take much to get out of range and in trouble, radio wise...with the speed and all.

Sounds like a great hobby, Skuzzy.  I've got a friend who has a fe RC P-51s and the sort.  I'd love to get into it, once the current one is done.
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: Creamo on April 19, 2005, 05:27:50 PM
That is of course, fantastic.

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/82_1113938475_bluetail007.jpg)
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: Skuzzy on April 19, 2005, 05:37:20 PM
Range is normally not an issue.  If you can see the plane, then you are usually good.  Most servos can be setup so the plane just flies in circles if it loses contact with the pilot.
A lot of RC pilots have two radios in the case.  Both with freshly charged batteries.  That way they can fly all day.  Or have a spare in case of damage.

It is an expensive hobby, but there are some great startup kits today making it less expensive to get into.  Just know, once you are in, you will be spending some money.

You can tell the guys that spend a lot of money on the hobby.  They spend more time in pre-flight and post-flight than the weekenders or starters do.

I built my planes from scratch so I know them well.  Converting the F15 to turbine is going to take a lot of time and work.
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: Nilsen on April 19, 2005, 05:43:50 PM
What kind of fuel do these planes use and how long can they stay in the air?
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: MiloMorai on April 19, 2005, 05:49:25 PM
Wren MW54 Mk3  with 14 Lbs thrust

1) Kit with hand starter £1199
2) Kit with onboard starter and Eco ECU £1250
3) Kit with full Autostart £1399
4) Ready built with electric start and Eco ECU £1450
5) Ready built with full Autostart £1599

(http://www.wren-turbines.com/Image1.jpg)

MW54 Mk 2 Parts

(http://www.wren-turbines.com/mwexplode.jpg)
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: Raider179 on April 19, 2005, 06:14:28 PM
Anyone ever mounted one of those on a RC car? lol
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: VWE on April 19, 2005, 06:23:44 PM
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I have an F-15 eagl. It's without engines right now as I am trying to convert from fanjet to turbine.


Some nameless person has too much money and time on their hands... hey, we need an He-111! :p
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: Skuzzy on April 19, 2005, 06:26:41 PM
Consider it is has been a two year project VWE when you factor that and I still do not own the engines.
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 19, 2005, 06:47:30 PM
Hmmm...maybe I should switch to powered RC planes instead of the sail and slope gliders I fly now.



ack-ack
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: VWE on April 19, 2005, 07:06:16 PM
Here's a link of what not to do on your first flight Skzzinator...

Good,  (http://mywebpages.comcast.net/psk560/B25flight.wmv)
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: RedTop on April 19, 2005, 07:09:20 PM
100" plus wing span. 10 HP engine. I WANT one of these !!!!!!

Hurri and Spit. Yummmmmmmmmmmmmmyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyy


http://www.clarkindustries.on.ca/
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: NUKE on April 19, 2005, 07:09:41 PM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
I have nothing against ducted fan.  I used them for years.  One day a guy came to the field sporting a MiG21 (? not sure if that is the right number), and lit it up.  I fell in love immediately, and have been saving since then.


Isn't a big part of it the sound? To me, it's a big part of it having the jet sound like a jet. I have never flown an R/C aircraft though.
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: Skuzzy on April 19, 2005, 07:10:06 PM
VWE:I dunt do the remote film thingy stuff.  Never know what you'll end up with.  What's it about?

NUKE:  Absolutely.  The sound of those RC turbine engines is just remarkable.
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: NUKE on April 19, 2005, 07:12:05 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Hmmm...maybe I should switch to powered RC planes instead of the sail and slope gliders I fly now.



ack-ack


Those gliders are pretty cool AKAK.
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: Waffle on April 19, 2005, 07:12:36 PM
I still have a .60  Fw190 that I haven't flown...
First built up scale plane that I've done.  Need to do some work on one of the flaps and landing gears. Then I might be ready for some Taxi work...

Jets look a little intimidating right now, but would make fun for hearding cattle... :)
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: VWE on April 19, 2005, 07:16:35 PM
It looks like a Quarter scale B-25 that looses on engine and does a nice cartwheel through the cornfield...
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: Vulcan on April 19, 2005, 07:31:17 PM
When they have paintball guns in the nose then I'll be impressed ;)
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: YUCCA on April 19, 2005, 07:36:16 PM
ANy idea on how many lbs of thrust those engines make?
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: Skuzzy on April 19, 2005, 08:21:54 PM
You can get RC turbines from about 3 to 150 pounds of thrust.

Depending on the turbine, you can run propane, kerosene, deisel fuel, even paraffin with an oil mixer.

Exhaust temperatures tend to be around 1,000F.

VWE:  Hehe,..the biggest worry I have with the F15 would occur if one engine flamed out, especially right after take-off.
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: BlueJ1 on April 19, 2005, 08:23:59 PM
Mmm mini jets...






Working late Skuzzy ?
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: Skuzzy on April 19, 2005, 08:32:37 PM
Nah, I am at home.
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: DREDIOCK on April 19, 2005, 08:41:44 PM
Why is it the best things in life seem to be either unhealthy for you or have the possability to drive you into bankruptcy
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: NUKE on April 19, 2005, 08:45:24 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Why is it the best things in life seem to be either unhealthy for you or have the possability to drive you into bankruptcy


The best things in life are just what you decide to make them, imo.
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: bob149 on April 19, 2005, 10:24:43 PM
A friend of mine had a R/C jet , it was a canard .It flew for ..hmm about 6/7 seconds before sticky roll control brought it down.I only saw the video of the crash ,but you could clearly hear some joker from ATC ask if crash and rescue was needed ....ouch!!!!!!
I have a piper cub and a stinson voyager (yet to fly)The only plane i have written off (so far ) crashed into the side of a warehouse , i went round to the security hut and asked the little indian guy if i could get my r/c aircraft back that had just hit his ware house , poor guy nealry had a heart attack , all he could say  airplane crash !!!!! airplane crash !!!! took me 5 minutes to calm him down and explain it was a model plane :) hehe
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: Reschke on April 19, 2005, 10:35:42 PM
I always wanted to do a CH 53 helicopter RC in a big scale and even started saving up for it. But then puberty hit and chasing P**** took most of the money. Now 15 years later I still want to do that helo but the money is just outrageous and non-existant with all the other things that are going on.

Here is an RC AH-64 that I just found looking around a little. Its an electric motor but hell it comes ready to fly.

http://www.trendtimes.com/aprcheretofl.html

I just may start looking around for some scale plans of a CH-53 and try to start one from scratch. Hmmmm now to figure out the budget.
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 19, 2005, 10:45:25 PM
Quote
Originally posted by NUKE
Those gliders are pretty cool AKAK.




Yeah they are and really fun to fly as well if you find some good thermals or a nice off shore breeze.  I've got a Ki-84 and bf109F slope glider that are a blast to fly around.  Used to have a P-51D slope glider but that is now parked some where on the cliff face of Torrey Pines.  Don't fly sail planes as much as I used to since I've got to drive to the desert to get the good thermals and I don't like flying my sail planes off cliffs at Torrey Pines.



ack-ack
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: Reschke on April 19, 2005, 10:53:54 PM
How about a Chinook CH-46 with tandem rotors?


http://model.hirobo.co.jp/products/0406-904/0406-904.htm

Its on the Hirobo website under new products.
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: Torque on April 19, 2005, 11:04:01 PM
I had alot of fun as a kid with wax paper and Dope.

What's this iron for?

Futaba
Title: Nice looking RC jet
Post by: Hawklore on April 19, 2005, 11:20:52 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Torque
I had alot of fun as a kid with wax paper and Dope.

What's this iron for?

Futaba


Well todays society, being as hardend and evis as it is has forced upon us children, to become more violent and rather then just hurting ourselves we wish to hurt eachother more often then not..



-slowly reels and jiggles the line-