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Title: This has to be embarassing.
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on April 22, 2005, 01:13:56 AM
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SAN ANTONIO(AP) This is one story they'll be telling around the San Antonio Police Department for a long time. An off-duty officer was at a San Antonio auto auction house yesterday when nature called, a police spokesman said.

Officer Craig Clancy strolled to the appropriate facility and was lowering his trousers when his pistol fell from his waistband. When Clancy fumbled for the falling firearm, it went off, twice.

One of the bullets nicked a bit of floor tile into the leg of a man who was washing his hands nearby. That man was taken to a nearby hospital for treatment.

Police internal affairs is investigating.
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Post by: Fishu on April 22, 2005, 07:54:05 AM
He must've shot it on purpose, it is a well known fact that the guns do not fire when falling to the floor, let alone twice :rolleyes:
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Post by: lazs2 on April 22, 2005, 08:02:30 AM
they do if you pull the trigger while fumbling for em.

lazs
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Post by: VOR on April 22, 2005, 08:03:21 AM
Something fishy about this story.
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Post by: midnight Target on April 22, 2005, 08:08:13 AM
Sounds like it was written by the same guy who writes those "armed citizen" fictional accounts for the NRA rag.
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Post by: VOR on April 22, 2005, 08:09:20 AM
That's gonna reel a few in.
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Post by: lazs2 on April 22, 2005, 08:30:17 AM
well.... no matter what your wife tells you MT.. all the manly stuff in the "Rifleman" is gospel.. that is why she won't allow you to read it or hang out with guys who do.

as for juggling loaded semi autos of the glock persuasion... it is a very bad idea.   In order to make glocks and the like even comparable to the nice letoff of single action semi autos or revolvers on single action.... they had to make em light on the trigger with a short trigger pull.  For safty sake... they add this little toggle gizmo mini trigger thingie like you see on some of the cheaper power tools.   It is in no way a "safety" so far as the fine sport of gun juggling goes.

lazs
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Post by: Pooh21 on April 22, 2005, 08:55:45 AM
LOL hes spraying the bathroom with his trouser at half mast, while juggling his gun which is spraying on its own.

bet MT never drops anything when he pi**es as his wife makes him sit down to do it.
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Post by: lazs2 on April 22, 2005, 09:00:06 AM
she doesn't "make" him sit while he pees... they had a talk and came to an understanding on the matter.

lazs
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Post by: storch on April 22, 2005, 09:01:15 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Sounds like it was written by the same guy who writes those "armed citizen" fictional accounts for the NRA rag.


hide the hook mate
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Post by: Heretik on April 22, 2005, 11:29:27 AM
this would be why I never plan to own anything without a manual, mechanical safety.
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Post by: midnight Target on April 22, 2005, 12:12:53 PM
Must be sleeping in this morning Lazs. That took 22 minutes from jig to wife reference.

And BTW... I stand and she holds.
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Post by: john9001 on April 22, 2005, 12:15:36 PM
our police are highly trained in the handling of weapons, sort of.

In related news, i shoot at a police gun range that is open to the public. Went one day and there were a bunch of cops doing quals i think.  they were in civies with their full gun belts, looked really odd seeing people in blue jeans, t-shirts and all that hardware.
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Post by: pellik on April 22, 2005, 12:16:30 PM
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Police internal affairs is investigating.


The poor grammar used right there makes me suspicious as to whether or not this was written by a real journalist.
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Post by: midnight Target on April 22, 2005, 12:23:23 PM
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Originally posted by pellik
The poor grammar used right there makes me suspicious as to whether or not this was written by a real journalist.


Poor grammar?
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Post by: Maverick on April 22, 2005, 12:26:25 PM
There was a better situation that happenbed in my own Department. The guy earned the nickname EK, elevator killer, for his actions. Nope it wasn't me.

He was in the elevator in the main station. The doors were stainless and reflective. He took the time to practice his "fast draw". On the second or third time he cleared leather he inadvertently fired a round placing a nice dent in the door. While he was frozen staring at the door and his pistol, the door opened. The Chief was on the other side and was not pleased.

This guy was a couple years ahead of me and still there when I retired.

People are falable, they always have been and I feel always will be. As such, three will be instances of people acting like, well, people. As long as Police Officers have to be recruited from the ranks of, people, they will suffer all the foibles of that life form.
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Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on April 22, 2005, 12:29:17 PM
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Originally posted by pellik
The poor grammar used right there makes me suspicious as to whether or not this was written by a real journalist.


::shrug::

Came from AP.
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Post by: eagl on April 22, 2005, 06:41:31 PM
Speaking of stupid cop/gun tricks...

My Brother go the nickname "Howie" at the CHP academy because during a stop exercise, his practice weapon (solid weighted rubber) got hung up on the seatbelt and dropped to the ground as he exited the car.  Unfortunately he didn't realize this and as the situation escalated and the felon started running, my brother realized he did not have his weapon anymore.  The point of the exercise was to teach the trainees when to use the classic "stop or I will open fire" type of commands, but since he didn't have a gun my brother just chased down the instructor and tackled him.

After the instructors and students quit laughing their fool heads off, they realized that since our family name is "Long", my brother would be called Howie until he graduated.  They couldn't fault him for improvising and making a good non-lethal felony stop, but they couldn't let him get away with dropping his firearm either, so the name stuck.
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Post by: SirLoin on April 23, 2005, 01:32:05 AM
How u fumble for a handgun is beyond me.
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Post by: lazs2 on April 23, 2005, 09:22:34 AM
a few months ago I was in the grocery store and bumped into the banana isle... a smalll bunch rolled down and toward the floor.  I made several grabs at em and "fumbled" em... I'm glad they didn't have a glock like trigger.

lazs
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Post by: aztec on April 23, 2005, 09:49:48 AM
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Originally posted by Fishu
He must've shot it on purpose, it is a well known fact that the guns do not fire when falling to the floor, let alone twice :rolleyes:
  Interesting Fishu.......

Please inform my friend who died young from a dropped rifle. I'm sure he's sick of being dead.
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Post by: lazs2 on April 23, 2005, 09:56:24 AM
many older rifles can go off from being dropped without the trigger being "pulled".   Some are in the "cocked" state and only a delicate trigger/sear relationship prevents them from going off... others, the firing pin is resting directly on the primer of a chambered round.   Modern rifles are much safer.   A good rule is not handle loaded guns unless you klnow what you are doing.

lazs
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Post by: aztec on April 23, 2005, 10:39:23 AM
Was indeed an old Savage bolt action tube fed .22. Dropped it on the butt. I own an old Winchester single shot bolt action .22. It is cocked by pulling a plunger straight out from rear of bolt. Dosn't take much for a knock on the butt at all for this one to fire as well.

Bottem line...read lazs is dead on.
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Post by: Fishu on April 23, 2005, 11:17:23 AM
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Originally posted by aztec
Interesting Fishu.......

Please inform my friend who died young from a dropped rifle. I'm sure he's sick of being dead.


The sarcasm should be obvious from my message, directed at the US gun nuts who last time claimed that this and that gun does not go off without pulling on the trigger.
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Post by: aztec on April 23, 2005, 08:52:41 PM
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Originally posted by Fishu
The sarcasm should be obvious from my message, directed at the US gun nuts who last time claimed that this and that gun does not go off without pulling on the trigger.



MY bad.
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Post by: Leslie on April 24, 2005, 12:04:08 AM
If the handgun was in a belly band holster and not secured, it would have fallen out eventually.  I used to bring along a pistol when I jogged using a belly band holster.  One time it fell out on the street but luckily didn't discharge (Beretta .22).  

I learned I had to secure it better and figured it had to stand up to rigorous movements such as running without falling out.  Jogging along is bouncy and will shake a weapon loose.

The point is a holster of that fashion is not secure unless you modify it to hold the weapon where it's supposed to be at all times.  Then it will not fall out.  It should take some doing for the one carrying  to get it out of the holster.




Les