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Title: people in other countries (other than USA)
Post by: JB73 on April 22, 2005, 02:33:36 PM
i see in other lagnuages there are o's and stuff with the umluat or whatever it is called


a few questions, is that there on the keyboard (the special a's o's u's and stuff) by default or do you have to make some magical finger stretching command to put it there?

2nd: are your keyboards in "english" letters and the qwerty layout?

3rd: do you type in englis posting here, meaning can you read and writy in english? or do you ues some translation software?


just curious, because to get the odd charecters all i know is the "alt" keys like "alt 0162" = ¢


thanks
Title: people in other countries (other than USA)
Post by: Torque on April 22, 2005, 02:37:04 PM
nice tatters...
Title: people in other countries (other than USA)
Post by: Pooh21 on April 22, 2005, 02:37:17 PM
my keyboards got ümlauts on the side next to p and l üöä
Title: people in other countries (other than USA)
Post by: JB73 on April 22, 2005, 02:38:27 PM
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Originally posted by Pooh21
my keyboards got ümlauts on the side next to p and l üöä
ahh german... what about the special letter... man german was so long ago... i think it was called the ess-tet or something, looked like a B or something
Title: people in other countries (other than USA)
Post by: mosgood on April 22, 2005, 02:51:15 PM
Sorry JB but that avatar is disturbing......

it looks like a 12 year old shaking those knockers.....  :eek:
Title: people in other countries (other than USA)
Post by: Replicant on April 22, 2005, 03:04:18 PM
English keyboard uses QWERTY

German keyboard uses QWERTZ (Z and Y swapped round).  German keyboard includes ä (ae), ü (ue), ö (oe), ß (ss) etc.  (For instance, Suess can be written as Süß).  These are designated proper keys where the [ ] @ - keys are (I think!! I have UK laptop keyboard at home but at work I use a German keyboard!).  There are quite a few differences between the keyboards and also the Caps Lock acts like a shift on all numbers (e.g. 1 becomes !, 4 becomes $ etc.) which can be a pain.  You do get used to it very quickly though.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/44_1114200473_german_keyboard.jpg)
Title: people in other countries (other than USA)
Post by: Panzzer on April 22, 2005, 03:05:39 PM
Yes, I've got some umlaut-characters in my keyboard (åäö), yes, my keyboard is qwerty, just a bit differently laid out (some of the signs come with alt-gr or shift and I've got the åäö-keys) and finally, yes, I do write in English (I'm not using translators).
edit: I've got caps lock functioning as caps lock and got the y and z where they belong... :)
Title: people in other countries (other than USA)
Post by: JB73 on April 22, 2005, 03:08:28 PM
thank you both.... was trying to figure out where the extra keys came from lol
Title: people in other countries (other than USA)
Post by: Staga on April 22, 2005, 03:16:55 PM
Finnish/Swedish KB has Å right from the P-key and Ö and Ä keys in the right side of the L-key.
Ü, Ä, É and some others needs two keys but those aren't used in Scandinavian languages.
Title: people in other countries (other than USA)
Post by: Raider179 on April 22, 2005, 03:18:39 PM
If I remember right you can change any keyboard into a foriegn language one by something in windows. Been awhile though and you would have to memorize the different keys or do something about that.
Title: people in other countries (other than USA)
Post by: JB73 on April 22, 2005, 03:25:12 PM
yes raider, but without knowing where what key is you'd be typing blind lol
Title: people in other countries (other than USA)
Post by: Tumor on April 22, 2005, 03:30:02 PM
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Originally posted by mosgood
Sorry JB but that avatar is disturbing......

it looks like a 12 year old shaking those knockers.....  :eek:


OH!!  Stop dodging the issue and just admit it!  You liked the fatties better. :rolleyes:
Title: people in other countries (other than USA)
Post by: Staga on April 22, 2005, 04:20:27 PM
Scandinavian KB's have IIRC couple keys more than ordinary qwerty kb's have, 104vs 102 keys.

Wow look what I've found: http://www.answers.com/topic/keyboard-layout
Title: people in other countries (other than USA)
Post by: CyranoAH on April 22, 2005, 04:29:31 PM
1. In the spanish qwerty keyboard, we have accents to the side of the p, plus the letter ñ (I doubt  you'll read that) which sounds close to the french "gn", as in "oignon".

2. Pretty similar, but there are some small changes... the ñ letter instead of the ; , and the umlauts.

(http://www.sussex.ac.uk/its/facilities/pc/keyboards/spanish.gif)

3. I write "hitechesque" and then translate to english via skuzzylator plus.

Daniel
Title: people in other countries (other than USA)
Post by: Nilsen on April 22, 2005, 05:01:31 PM
No need for finger gymnastics. We have extra keys with æ ø å

No translating software needed either... we learn other languages in school. We have to learn english and we must also choose either german or french.

(http://www.viking-software.no/activities/screenshots/15.jpg)
Title: people in other countries (other than USA)
Post by: Russian on April 22, 2005, 11:41:46 PM
(http://www.forlang.wsu.edu/images/krussian.gif)
Title: people in other countries (other than USA)
Post by: Wotan on April 23, 2005, 12:34:44 AM
fyi windows codes for special german characters:

Just hit either alt key and type the 4 digit code using the keypad on the right of your keyboard.

ä = alt + 0228
Ä = alt + 0196

ß = alt + 0223

é = alt + 0233

ö = alt + 0246
Ö = alt + 0214

ü = alt + 0252
Ü = alt + 0220

These are the 8 most used.

° = alt + 0176

α Alpha
β Beta
γ Gamma
δ Delta
ε Epsilon
λ Lambda
π Pi
Title: people in other countries (other than USA)
Post by: JB73 on April 23, 2005, 01:04:28 AM
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Originally posted by Staga
Scandinavian KB's have IIRC couple keys more than ordinary qwerty kb's have, 104vs 102 keys.

Wow look what I've found: http://www.answers.com/topic/keyboard-layout
neat find.

i guess i could have googled keyboard layout's or something, but then no discussion civily to bring us together internationally

heck if i googled "french keyboard layout" i bet the "im feeling lucky" would be a site that offers the french to surrender to whatever keyboard layout i suggest


; )
Title: people in other countries (other than USA)
Post by: Nilsen on April 23, 2005, 01:37:22 AM
lol 73 :D
Title: people in other countries (other than USA)
Post by: Replicant on April 23, 2005, 02:59:12 AM
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Originally posted by Wotan
fyi windows codes for special german characters:

Just hit either alt key and type the 4 digit code using the keypad on the right of your keyboard.

ä = alt + 0228
Ä = alt + 0196

ß = alt + 0223

é = alt + 0233

ö = alt + 0246
Ö = alt + 0214

ü = alt + 0252
Ü = alt + 0220

These are the 8 most used.
 


Wotan

I used different ASCII codes to get mine.  For instance to get ß I use alt ` 225 and ü is alt ` 129.  http://www.lookuptables.com/
Title: people in other countries (other than USA)
Post by: Fishu on April 23, 2005, 07:35:59 AM
The keyboards are pretty much the same, but the arrangement of the letters changes.

When I was staying in the states for 3 weeks, I had to use an english keyboard, but after little configuration in the windos, I was able to use the finnish layout by pressing shift-alt and then I just typed out of the memory. Keys were still pretty much in the same places, but with different letters on the keys.
Switching back to english keyboard worked the same way.
Only difficulty becomes with the less used special letters, which changes the position more than the alphabetics (ie. \*^¨<| ...and so on).

I learned that incidentally, when I had accidentally pressed the alt-shift combination during IRCing and began wondering why the hell my keyboard turned into an english layout.



I'd say only very few people here uses a translation softwares for anything but to occasionally translate a word or two.