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Title: Scale in Space
Post by: Wolfala on April 24, 2005, 06:49:53 PM
All I can say is, we have a long long way to go.

(http://www.thomas-ruth.de/execut01.jpg)
Title: Scale in Space
Post by: LePaul on April 24, 2005, 06:52:42 PM
"They've shut down the main reactor"
Title: Scale in Space
Post by: DiabloTX on April 24, 2005, 06:56:49 PM
"That's no moon...it's a space station."
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Post by: WilldCrd on April 24, 2005, 06:59:06 PM
what game is that pic from?
Title: Scale in Space
Post by: Octavius on April 24, 2005, 07:10:39 PM
The Executor is only 8km long.  Merely a fart in the Sphere-o-Fear, Deathticle, Giant Hurt Ball, aka Death Star's shadow. :)
Title: Scale in Space
Post by: ASTAC on April 24, 2005, 07:16:20 PM
Thats not even the biggest one...

Eclipse-class Star Dreadnought

The 16 kilometer long Eclipse-class Star Dreadnought was larger than the Sovereign-class ships and much more massive than the longer Executor-class Star Dreadnought. The first of this class, the Eclipse, became the reborn Emperor's flagship. It was supposedly one of the most heavily armed ships in the history of the Star Wars galaxy. It carried thousands of turbolaser and heavy turbolaser cannons. It also had powerful shields and heavy jet-black armor, making it difficult to destroy in space combat. The most important feature was a superlaser cannon located on the bow of the Eclipse. Although it was not as powerful as the superlaser on the Death Star, it was capable of blasting through a planetary shield and cracking a planet's crust. According to the WEG RPG stats, Eclipse carried 600 TIE Interceptors and 96 TIE Bombers, divided into 58 squadrons; for ground assault, it carried 150,000 Imperial Stormtroopers, 100 AT-ATs, and five prefabricated bases. The Eclipse was said to be crewed by over 700,000 personnel.

The power of the Eclipse's superlaser as described is self-contradictory. It has been described as 2/3rds the power of the Death Star's prime weapon. Such a weapon would be more than sufficient to destroy a planet, yet it was also stated that the Eclipse's superlaser was not powerful enough to destroy a planet. There is some speculation as to whether the 2/3rds number refers to the magnitude of the energy release as opposed to the total value; this would put the main weapon below the threshold necessary to destroy a planet.

The Eclipse was destroyed along with the reborn Emperor Palpatine when Luke Skywalker and his sister Princess Leia managed to disrupt the Emperor's control of a titanic Force Storm, a massive conflagration of Dark Side energy that he had summoned in order to wipe out the massed New Republic fleet. Afterwards, a second Eclipse-class ship was built, dubbed the Eclipse II. Above the planet Byss, R2-D2 took control of the Eclipse II's computers and then sent it on a collision course with the Galaxy Gun superweapon. The explosion destroyed both the Eclipse II and the Galaxy Gun. One last projectile was pulled by Byss' gravity and hit the planet, destroying it.

Heres a page with a pic...a much better looking ship I think.

Eclipse-Class Super Star Destroyer (http://hangarbay.tripod.com/td-eclipse.html)

maybe a pic or two?
(http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/comics/de/eclipse2.jpg)

(http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/books/egvv/eclipse-eg1.gif)

(http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/comics/de/eclipse1.jpg)
Title: Scale in Space
Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 24, 2005, 07:41:49 PM
A mere childs toy, that one...

(http://www.wolfsshipyard.mystarship.com/Drawings/SW/Imperium.gif)
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Post by: stiehl on April 24, 2005, 07:56:54 PM
"It's a trap!"........full of O'club nerds
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Post by: spitfiremkv on April 24, 2005, 08:03:11 PM
my fictional spaceship is bigger than yours!
Title: Scale in Space
Post by: RTSigma on April 24, 2005, 10:01:45 PM
"Intensify the forward batteries, I don't want anything to get through!"

A-Wing gets hit...takes crash course to bridge...

"Intensify forward firepower!"
"Too late!"

Volkswagen bug through the bridge, then fire, then hits the Death Star and Admiral Ackbar acts like his fish poo don't stink.
Title: Scale in Space
Post by: ASTAC on April 24, 2005, 10:13:43 PM
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Originally posted by RTSigma
"Intensify the forward batteries, I don't want anything to get through!"

A-Wing gets hit...takes crash course to bridge...

"Intensify forward firepower!"
"Too late!"

Volkswagen bug through the bridge, then fire, then hits the Death Star and Admiral Ackbar acts like his fish poo don't stink.


You would think that like most ships..there would be an aux steering, and control could have been maintained...the bridge being destroyed isn't the death of a ship.

And Akbar's expression was one of relief, knowing his converted passenger liners didn't stand a chance against the Imperial Fleet:D
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Post by: crowMAW on April 24, 2005, 10:51:04 PM
Don't be too proud of this technical terror you've constructed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant when compared to the power of the Force.
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Post by: Heretik on April 24, 2005, 11:08:39 PM
a boobie?
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Post by: Drunky on April 24, 2005, 11:23:03 PM
And I used to feel like a geek because I had the entire layout of the USS Enterprise from Star Trek on a set of 3 x 5 cards that I bought at a neighbor's garage sale back in the late 70's.

*sniff*  It even included a nifty clear plastic case with decorative color front panel and a snazzy snapping lock for the cover kinda like an envelope.

Hell, I knew where everying bowling alley was located on the Enterprise!!!

Then it became a casuality during the Great Comic Book Burning of '75.  I never really forgave my mother after that.
Title: Scale in Space
Post by: Wolfala on April 25, 2005, 12:01:10 AM
To answer the question at hand - the game is Orbiter ( http://www.orbitersim.com )
Title: Scale in Space
Post by: CyranoAH on April 25, 2005, 01:51:51 AM
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Originally posted by Drunky
And I used to feel like a geek because I had the entire layout of the USS Enterprise from Star Trek on a set of 3 x 5 cards that I bought at a neighbor's garage sale back in the late 70's.

*sniff*  It even included a nifty clear plastic case with decorative color front panel and a snazzy snapping lock for the cover kinda like an envelope.

Hell, I knew where everying bowling alley was located on the Enterprise!!!

Then it became a casuality during the Great Comic Book Burning of '75.  I never really forgave my mother after that.


Where are the toilets then? :D

Daniel
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Post by: Schaden on April 25, 2005, 03:11:11 AM
Read Bill Brysons - A short history of nearly everything - there ain't going to be no Star Trek.
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Post by: Nilsen on April 25, 2005, 04:11:28 AM
You guys must pull alot of females with that knowledge. :D

jezus... everyone knows that Yoda kicks all your gay spaceships asses.
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Post by: Sandman on April 25, 2005, 02:09:25 PM
Starship Dimensions (http://www.merzo.net/)

more dimensions (http://www.st-minutiae.com/misc/comparison.xhtml)
Title: Scale in Space
Post by: Sundowner on April 25, 2005, 07:02:01 PM
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Originally posted by Octavius
The Executor is only 8km long.  Merely a fart in the Sphere-o-Fear, Deathticle, Giant Hurt Ball, aka Death Star's shadow. :)


I SWEAR!
Title: Scale in Space
Post by: 1K3 on April 25, 2005, 08:28:10 PM
is that ship gonna be shown in Tard Wars II?
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Post by: indy007 on April 26, 2005, 09:49:00 AM
This is nothing. If y'all want true ubernerd entertainment, go lookup Star Wars vs. Star Trek forums. They come complete with mathematical analysis of weapons and everything.
Title: Scale in Space
Post by: Charon on April 26, 2005, 03:25:51 PM
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This is nothing. If y'all want true ubernerd entertainment, go lookup Star Wars vs. Star Trek forums. They come complete with mathematical analysis of weapons and everything.


You had to go and kill my productivity today, didn't you? Here's one I came across:

http://www.st-v-sw.net/STSWhi2.html

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he fastest ship in Star Wars has, at sublight speeds, a maximum upper limit value for straight-line acceleration of about 210 m/sē, or about 21.5g.  She can reverse her engines for a rearward acceleration of about 90 m/sē, or about 9.2g.

Pretty impressive for a ship described in chapter ten of the TESB novelisation as having ion engines.

However, compared to Star Trek vessels, this is quite poor acceleration indeed.  Compare this to, for instance, the refit Enterprise in ST:TMP, which went from Earth to Jupiter in 1.8 hours.  The distance from Earth to Jupiter is quite variable over their respective orbits, but I decided to try narrowing it down a bit.  According to the excellent space simulation program Celestia, the example date of July 4, 2271 gives us a distance of 4.773 AU from Earth to Jupiter, or over 714,000,000 kilometers (about .66 light-hours).   That's an average speed of 110,191,481.5m/s.   Assuming a constant acceleration over those 1.8 hours (and thus the lowest possible acceleration value), the ship would have had to reach a final speed of 220,382,963 m/s (0.73512c), assuming a start from zero.  That would be, then, a constant acceleration of just over 34,000 m/sē, or over 3,460g.   That is 161 times the Falcon's demonstrated plasma-flinging "afterburn" acceleration.


Charon
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Post by: Gh0stFT on April 26, 2005, 03:40:09 PM
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Originally posted by ASTAC
The Eclipse was said to be crewed by over 700,000 personnel.


lol thats alot meals to serve.
btw. ive never seen a single person eat on the deathstar or
on a star destroyer, not one restaurant, imagine that! ....hmmm strange ;)
Title: Scale in Space
Post by: Nilsen on April 26, 2005, 03:44:48 PM
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Originally posted by Gh0stFT
lol thats alot meals to serve.
btw. ive never seen a single person eat on the deathstar or
on a star destroyer, not one restaurant, imagine that! ....hmmm strange ;)



They can't eat. Just imagine all the turds those 700000 people would make in a day... thats alot of "floaters" to release, and space aint that big!
Title: Scale in Space
Post by: indy007 on April 26, 2005, 03:49:02 PM
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Originally posted by Charon
You had to go and kill my productivity today, didn't you? Here's one I came across:

http://www.st-v-sw.net/STSWhi2.html

 Charon



:lol :lol :lol :rofl Just wait until you hit the weapons threads! "In such & such, they vaporised an asteroid. That would take approximately blah blah blah blah. Making it much more powerful than a Phaser or Photon torpedo!"

It's like a car wreck... can't ... not... look!




ps: If you can find a thread about Hand to Hand combat, you've struck gold. Klingons or Borg vs. Storm Troopers! Woo woo!
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Post by: Nilsen on April 26, 2005, 03:55:46 PM
Oh my cod! star trek vs star wars!!!! :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Post by: Octavius on April 26, 2005, 04:34:37 PM
and Dune pwnt them all. :)
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Post by: GREENTENERAL on April 26, 2005, 08:37:26 PM
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Originally posted by Octavius
and Dune pwnt them all. :)


I hope you mean the original version!

If not,.. thems fightin wurds!

I beleive those big ships are grossly misrepresented.  I have in my possesion a secret document created Lucas and friends, that proves that their choice increment of measument was the "noodle inch"  which we all know is much longer than a standard inch.
Title: Scale in Space
Post by: Octavius on April 26, 2005, 08:59:50 PM
My god man, have you gone MAD!?  the books!
Title: Scale in Space
Post by: GREENTENERAL on April 26, 2005, 09:41:09 PM
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Originally posted by Octavius
My god man, have you gone MAD!?  the books!


Oh, thank goodness! That is a releif.

On another note:  I pray for the day that they redo the original TIE Fighter game and add alot more ships. I still love that game, got so good, I can clean all space in a plain TIE