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Title: Am I alone?
Post by: CPorky on April 28, 2005, 07:12:34 PM
I'm having a devil of a time flying with the new terrain, nothing I do seems to help including setting all 'performance' and setting distance to 0.5 miles. It is really affecting my game-play to the point I don't want to even log on anymore.

From what I gathered, I was not alone with this problem.

Is HTC working on a solution, or am I in the minority having problems?
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: SlapShot on April 28, 2005, 07:18:20 PM
I suffer from the same problem. Finding it hard to fly in a furball. I have been having to go to less crowed places and preferably over the water.

Funny part was that when the new version was out, my FPS were off the hook ... best ever ... then the patch came and tanked it all.

I have a P4 3 Gig with 1 Gig memory and run an ATI 9800 XT so I don't think that I should be seeing single digit FPS when flying in a crowd.

I haven't reverted to loading the Omega Drivers yet ... but I am getting close and desperate.
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: Stang on April 28, 2005, 07:28:46 PM
Same here, I was fine until the first patch for 2.03, now everything is in the tank.
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: GunnerCAF on April 28, 2005, 07:30:18 PM
Smoother then a babys behind here.

AMD 2500+
512M RAM
ATI 9200
WinXP

Game Settings:
1280x960
512 MAX Textures
Sliders all at default settings

Gunner
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: Morpheus on April 28, 2005, 07:32:06 PM
Yep.

It sucks bad.

Last night in furballs I was at 14frps. Sometimes saw 10.

Please lose trees or do something.
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: wojo71 on April 28, 2005, 07:56:11 PM
I have had  single digit frame rates  also,but after about 15 min or so online it all seems to smooth out:confused:
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: SELECTOR on April 28, 2005, 08:09:17 PM
they do know? don't they?
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: jetb123 on April 28, 2005, 08:50:14 PM
Well I havent tested these specs in the MA
but I have tested in h2h and i get 30-40 even 65 fps at times.

Specs

Intel celeron 2.8ghz
758mb of ram
Intergrated 64mg graphics card

Settings:

Ground vis .05 miles
1204x768
Texture size 512


 I do notice that sometimes I dont see puffy ack explosions the smoke of engine and wheels.

And yes after the new patch my frames did go to crap I was getting like 3-4fps, I went to intel d/l a new driver for my graphics card, and it fixed it. Maybe you guys should try that?
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: eilif on April 28, 2005, 08:54:36 PM
would be nice if the sliders went all the way to zero trees for the draw distance. Im ok with how it is now, but it seems like the abuility to turn them all the way off would fix alot of ppls problems.


Ah does have the best looking trees that i have seen in a sim, but couldnt we use that detail/polys else where? you hear alot of ppl talk about how ah is soposed to be function over form yet the trees seem to be  a heck of alot of form over function.  They look nice when taking off and can be a real treat when your low and slow or in a gv, which i never am.  

I would say keep the trees how they are for when you are in gv mode and make a simplified version for planes that look good from the top.  

Higher poly terrains, higher res textures have my vote.  Just do the good ol 5 or 6 circles for trees, thats what most flight sims use these days.
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: Overlag on April 28, 2005, 09:08:59 PM
fps is so bad now that ive moved my sliders back to AHI looks....

right now i cant even SEE through trees when im in a tank, i get killed all the time through the green squares

in the air its playable above 6k... any lower and it just sucks.... people are going to leave if it stays like this, because to be fair theres NO improvement from old to new

2.02 bad looking trees at almost max quality
2.03 good looking trees at MIN quality and they look worse than 2.02 trees

get my point?
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: killnu on April 28, 2005, 09:14:07 PM
my FR stinky...:(
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Post by: Hetzer on April 28, 2005, 09:20:08 PM
No problems with here with a:

P3 866 mhz
256mb Ram
Nvidia TNT2 32mb
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: Morpheus on April 28, 2005, 10:21:46 PM
I think we need to go back to the way it was in AH1 when you could turn ground clutter off completely.

Right now if you turn sliders down thats ok. Until a tree pops up infront of you. You can't see a tree until its too late with sliders.

I have FX53, 2 gigs of ram and a 6800 ultra. Getting frame rates in the teens is unaceptable. I enjoy playing this game, I built this system to do just that. Now what?

Its going to get to the point where Im going to have to hire NASA to put together a system that can run AH? It seems as if im being a wise guy... Maybe so. But after all the money I put into this system thinking I would be ok for a few years... I guess the joke is on me?

Why do we need the trees to be the way they are now? What was wrong with them before they were updated? I dont understand....

Sorry for the rant, but I'm getting frustrated with poor perfomance in this game on what I consider to be some what top of the line system.

Title: Am I alone?
Post by: Darkish on April 28, 2005, 10:42:58 PM
Get a solid 45+ on runway and flying around offline the min is around 40 or so (using OZ map for this) - normally pegs out at refresh, but shove in 1 smoking bomber or a medium furball and I'm into the low 20's. Zoomed in  looking through tank sight I get anything from 40's to low teens, depending on what bush I'm looking at.

Have tried all texture sizes, no apparent difference to performance but 1024 does look pretty.:)

Now the game's looking the best it ever has and I'm sure it'll be running smoothly again soon, but right now it's not.

P4 3.06Ghz
9800 Pro
1 Gig Ram
SB Audigy ZS
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: IronDog on April 28, 2005, 10:55:23 PM
Hmmm,I guess between the FPS probs,and for me and quite a few others,Saavis dropping 60-80% packets,It's time to drag up.Was going to keep account going,but I have fallen on some tough economic issues,and just giving $14.95 away per month,isn't acceptable right now.I really enjoyed AH,and I hope they get the problems resolved.Best wishes to all,and good hunting.
IronDog
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: Widewing on April 28, 2005, 11:00:01 PM
I lost about 10 fps with the patch. Getting between 27 and 85 fps depending upon how many aircraft are nearby and factors such as smoke, proximity to the ground...etc.

However, I'm running 1024 graphics, so that's not too bad I guess. If I run 512, the frame rate should improve, but it's usable as is without major hassle.

System is P-4, 3.0 gig on a ASUS P4P MB
ATI 9600XT, 2 gigs RAM.

My regards,

Widewing
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: NoBaddy on April 28, 2005, 11:03:05 PM
Morph...
Let's hope they can figure out what the problem is. Heck, I have had some awesome fights down IN the trees lately. It is a hoot & 1/2 to fight below the tops of the trees. :D
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: jetb123 on April 28, 2005, 11:06:17 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Morpheus
I think we need to go back to the way it was in AH1 when you could turn ground clutter off completely.

Right now if you turn sliders down thats ok. Until a tree pops up infront of you. You can't see a tree until its too late with sliders.

I have FX53, 2 gigs of ram and a 6800 ultra. Getting frame rates in the teens is unaceptable. I enjoy playing this game, I built this system to do just that. Now what?

Its going to get to the point where Im going to have to hire NASA to put together a system that can run AH? It seems as if im being a wise guy... Maybe so. But after all the money I put into this system thinking I would be ok for a few years... I guess the joke is on me?

Why do we need the trees to be the way they are now? What was wrong with them before they were updated? I dont understand....

Sorry for the rant, but I'm getting frustrated with poor perfomance in this game on what I consider to be some what top of the line system.

Well then they would have to disable trees hurting aircraft. If not then people would complain that they couldnt see the trees.
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: jon on April 28, 2005, 11:22:46 PM
STARTING TO FEEL SAME WAY:mad: Due to travel for work i miss up to three months at a crack, then im laid off for a month or two,and play every day. On this stint home I started with new version and patch and it totally sucks! before i left 35 to 40 frames in a furball,now 12 to 18, and its starting to get on my nerves.I may go somewhere else. It may not be as good as this when ah is working ok but lately its not working .
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: jetb123 on April 28, 2005, 11:25:09 PM
Quote
Originally posted by jon
STARTING TO FEEL SAME WAY:mad: Due to travel for work i miss up to three months at a crack, then im laid off for a month or two,and play every day. On this stint home I started with new version and patch and it totally sucks! before i left 35 to 40 frames in a furball,now 12 to 18, and its starting to get on my nerves.I may go somewhere else. It may not be as good as this when ah is working ok but lately its not working .
 I think everybody should just chill out, try to download new drivers, and stop complaining about it. Thats not going to do anything.
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: vatiAH on April 28, 2005, 11:35:45 PM
I was starting to think it was just me.   FPS is in the pooper esp on the Fester map.   Flying last night with Fps  from 15 to 55.    Normally i'm 45 to 100 fps and believe or not, i'm getting worse frame rates now that I upgraded from a ATI 9700 to a X800 pro!!

Vati
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: Blammo on April 29, 2005, 12:53:31 AM
:mad: DOWN WITH TREES!!!

:D UP WITH FRAME RATES!!!

:aok
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: Pongo on April 29, 2005, 01:45:11 AM
xp2500
1 gig ram
9500pro
its killing me. Maybe I should keep it secret and get new drivers?
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: jetb123 on April 29, 2005, 01:57:32 AM
Ouch I do have to admit once I get down to the tree's my frames plumit to 15-20. :/
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: wipass on April 29, 2005, 02:35:44 AM
P4 2.6
1 Gb RAM
ATI X800 Pro
Audigy Sound

Getting a regular playable 30 FPS now, have tried everything to get it higher.

I even read the hints and tips  

wipass
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: Janov on April 29, 2005, 02:55:57 AM
I think the trees are not the problem. I get around 30 FPS when down in the weeds in a plane. If I want to furball I just switch to "minimum view distance" (Shift-F3) and I am at 60+.
The problem is  aircraft in the area. If there are like 5 or more around, framerate really takes a hit. I think thats where the problem is, maybe its some bug, where AH tries to draw the detail on every plane in range, even if its 4k away - maybe some room for optimization here :confused:

Litjan
Title: Ahh the good Ol days
Post by: JB35 on April 29, 2005, 03:38:08 AM
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(http://[img]http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/829_1114763245_ahss3.jpg)[/IMG]



(http://[img]http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/829_1114763199_ahss2.jpg)[/IMG]
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: jetb123 on April 29, 2005, 04:32:27 AM
Yes the good days man I wish they would of kept ah1 lol. Even tho ah2 has way more cooler features. Just dont know something about ah1 I miss.
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: bj229r on April 29, 2005, 06:11:47 AM
I built a Athlon 64 3200 thingie a while back, with 1 gig, FX5700 vid card---had 70 frames when i started out 4 months ago---had to roll back vid drivers due to blue screen on alt-tab--that dropped me to 60---successive patches have dropped my average to 40--still playable, and every video detail is maxed. ---But losing 33% of frames thru 3-4 patches is troubling
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: jollyFE on April 29, 2005, 06:26:12 AM
Before the last 2 patches my f/r were a nice 45-70 even in the thickest furball.  2 patches ago they dropped to a max of 45...this last patch dropped tem to a max of 20.  In the tower when I log on I get 3-9, they stay that way even if i stay in the tower for 5-10 minutes.  I can't even think of turnong on animated water because that drops my f/r to something like -15 or so.

I was happy before the last 2 patches but the game anjoyment just isn't there at this point.

Athlon 2600XP
1 gig ram
FX5700 LE 256mb 8x agp

jolly
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: jetb123 on April 29, 2005, 06:35:59 AM
Hopefully, HTC staff will view this thread, and look for whats messing with the fps.
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: CPorky on April 29, 2005, 06:48:38 AM
I didn't mention it above, but this is not some veiled attack on HTC, they have been real good to me in the past with support even when their product wasn't the problem. I'm happy to see most people are being constructive about the issue. My only goal here is to figure out if HTC knows whats going on and if there is a fix in the works.

Personally, I've tried new drivers, new settings, cleaning out my machine, etc you name it. I'm sort of on the fence like IronDog in regards to the future, I'm willing to update my machine if it is substandard, but looking at the posts in here, it wouldn't help.

Quote
Originally posted by jetb123
I think everybody should just chill out, try to download new drivers, and stop complaining about it. Thats not going to do anything.


Jetb, HTC customer support is top-notch. I just want to bring the lack of good game-play (in regards to the graphic problems) on my end. A good constructive complaint is more than valid, it ensures a lively and healthy game with a nice long future.
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: WMLute on April 29, 2005, 06:53:35 AM
Quote
Originally posted by jetb123
Hopefully, HTC staff will view this thread, and look for whats messing with the fps.


It's the trees.  They designed some nifty lookin' eye candy, and went bonkers with it.  Trees ALL over the place.  Fly over some mountains, trees up/down and on top them suckers.  

Do we REALLY need so many trees?

I for one would like one of 2 things to happen.  

1.  Less trees.  Take the time to edit out a few hundred groves, and/or make existing groves a bit thinner.

2.  Only have trees in gv zones.  I'm sure it can be coded, to only plant them "Great" looking trees in areas where a ground vehicle can drive.  Can't be THAT hard (says the guy with no codin' experience)

Or possibly, some of both.

I LOVE that HT et. all are working to bring nifty new features to this wonderful sim we are all addicted to, but could they PLEASE work a bit on "stability" before "eye candy"?

(sniff, misses the day when trees could be turned off)
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: Schaden on April 29, 2005, 07:08:02 AM
Same problems with frame rates as others but I also have sorta "fuzzy" icons???? Never had them before but now they look weird.

I have an oldish upgraded system - 2.00mghz, 9800 Pro card, 1 gig ram.
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: Edbert1 on April 29, 2005, 07:13:45 AM
There's some variable somewhere we and HTC are missing. I am not for a second disputing the problems some of you are having or saying it is your fault, but I have not seen my FPS drop below 40...EVER. It is usually 65-85, but low, with smoke and many players it does dip inot the 40s sometimes. I have not seen more than a 10-15% drop in FR since AH2 came out.

I am video card poor, but my CPU makes up for it. I run 1024X768 with detail at 3/4 of max and range at max. Oh, and I preload EVERYTHING and run 512 textures.

FX53
9800-pro-128
2GB RAM
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: straffo on April 29, 2005, 07:22:12 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Schaden
Same problems with frame rates as others but I also have sorta "fuzzy" icons???? Never had them before but now they look weird.

I have an oldish upgraded system - 2.00mghz, 9800 Pro card, 1 gig ram.

if the radio is fuzzy to I think it's because of the anysotropic filtering *.



* correct spellin optional
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: sickbird on April 29, 2005, 08:08:09 AM
I'm going to be all set soon.  I have the HAL 9000 on order.  It should fix everything.
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Post by: jetb123 on April 29, 2005, 08:10:07 AM
Quote
Originally posted by WMLute
It's the trees.  They designed some nifty lookin' eye candy, and went bonkers with it.  Trees ALL over the place.  Fly over some mountains, trees up/down and on top them suckers.  

Do we REALLY need so many trees?

I for one would like one of 2 things to happen.  

1.  Less trees.  Take the time to edit out a few hundred groves, and/or make existing groves a bit thinner.

2.  Only have trees in gv zones.  I'm sure it can be coded, to only plant them "Great" looking trees in areas where a ground vehicle can drive.  Can't be THAT hard (says the guy with no codin' experience)

Or possibly, some of both.

I LOVE that HT et. all are working to bring nifty new features to this wonderful sim we are all addicted to, but could they PLEASE work a bit on "stability" before "eye candy"?

(sniff, misses the day when trees could be turned off)
Quoted for truth. :D
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: AKDogg on April 29, 2005, 08:18:53 AM
I got a AMD 64 3200+ with 1 gig ram, ATI XT800XL 256 meg card.  It doesn'y matter if I run 6x antialiasning or have it have, I still get only 28-50 fps.  I asked Skuzzy if the game uses .ini file for video card lookup.  Meaning when U have a card like mine it enables features that that card supports only.  Lets say U have a GF fx5700 which only supports I think shader 1.0, the .ini file will say ok, we gonna enable only this graphic setting for this card.  Skuzzy said no it doesn't.  Maybe this is something that HT should look into as alot of other games have files like this to get best performance out of there games.
Title: Vid card driver
Post by: aSTAR on April 29, 2005, 08:32:11 AM
Am using OMEGA 2612, most recent driver for
my ATI 9800Pro 128.
Running fine.
P4 3.0/1gig ram.
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: Overlag on April 29, 2005, 08:38:31 AM
Quote
Originally posted by MwDogg
I got a AMD 64 3200+ with 1 gig ram, ATI XT800XL 256 meg card.  It doesn'y matter if I run 6x antialiasning or have it have, I still get only 28-50 fps.  I asked Skuzzy if the game uses .ini file for video card lookup.  Meaning when U have a card like mine it enables features that that card supports only.  Lets say U have a GF fx5700 which only supports I think shader 1.0, the .ini file will say ok, we gonna enable only this graphic setting for this card.  Skuzzy said no it doesn't.  Maybe this is something that HT should look into as alot of other games have files like this to get best performance out of there games.


thats because running at x6 will overload the ram, and ATIs drivers disable it automaticaly if the game does that

try x2 or x4
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Post by: dedalos on April 29, 2005, 08:41:36 AM
Quote
Originally posted by SlapShot
I suffer from the same problem. Finding it hard to fly in a furball. I have been having to go to less crowed places and preferably over the water.

Funny part was that when the new version was out, my FPS were off the hook ... best ever ... then the patch came and tanked it all.

I have a P4 3 Gig with 1 Gig memory and run an ATI 9800 XT so I don't think that I should be seeing single digit FPS when flying in a crowd.

I haven't reverted to loading the Omega Drivers yet ... but I am getting close and desperate.


You just need to spent some more money to upgrade your computer, until the next patch ;)
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Post by: SKJohn on April 29, 2005, 09:17:58 AM
Quote
Originally posted by WMLute
It's the trees.  They designed some nifty lookin' eye candy, and went bonkers with it.  Trees ALL over the place.  Fly over some mountains, trees up/down and on top them suckers.  

Do we REALLY need so many trees?

I for one would like one of 2 things to happen.  

1.  Less trees.  Take the time to edit out a few hundred groves, and/or make existing groves a bit thinner.

2.  Only have trees in gv zones.  I'm sure it can be coded, to only plant them "Great" looking trees in areas where a ground vehicle can drive.  Can't be THAT hard (says the guy with no codin' experience)

Or possibly, some of both.

I LOVE that HT et. all are working to bring nifty new features to this wonderful sim we are all addicted to, but could they PLEASE work a bit on "stability" before "eye candy"?

(sniff, misses the day when trees could be turned off)


We could put the C-47's to work spraying some virtual Agent Orange around the maps....
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: Schaden on April 29, 2005, 09:21:46 AM
Quote
Originally posted by straffo
if the radio is fuzzy to I think it's because of the anysotropic filtering *.



* correct spellin optional


thnks was driving me crazy!!
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: Schaden on April 29, 2005, 09:31:10 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Edbert
There's some variable somewhere we and HTC are missing. I am not for a second disputing the problems some of you are having or saying it is your fault, but I have not seen my FPS drop below 40...EVER. It is usually 65-85, but low, with smoke and many players it does dip inot the 40s sometimes. I have not seen more than a 10-15% drop in FR since AH2 came out.

I am video card poor, but my CPU makes up for it. I run 1024X768 with detail at 3/4 of max and range at max. Oh, and I preload EVERYTHING and run 512 textures.

FX53
9800-pro-128
2GB RAM


mmm when I try to preload vid mem I get a hard lockup and have to reboot......anyone have an idea why?
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: Edbert1 on April 29, 2005, 11:05:15 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Schaden
mmm when I try to preload vid mem I get a hard lockup and have to reboot......anyone have an idea why?

The amount of data (size of your textures) exceeds the physical memory of the card? Try loading them into system memory instead.

I run 512 textures with 2GB of RAM, I can load 1024 textures but it does hurt the framerate.
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Post by: AKDogg on April 29, 2005, 01:53:53 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Overlag
thats because running at x6 will overload the ram, and ATIs drivers disable it automaticaly if the game does that

try x2 or x4


I have tried all of them and no the drivers are not disabling it when I at 6x.  Edges are perfectly smooth but yet no sacirfice in FPS.  I get same FPS running at 1024x768 res, all AA and AF off as suppose to 1024x768 res with AA at 2,4,or even 6x along with AF at 2,4,6,8,and 16x.  Hell I even went to 1280x1024 and no change.  Basically its telling me that my CPU is holding my video card back or the game is not recognizing my video card right.  1 thing I noticed is when U checking your FPS in game, under total video memory its saying I have 512megs and using anywhere from 70-200megs of it depending on settings I have turned on.  Now why would the game be reporting I have a 512 meg video card when its only a 256meg card?  Now before U guys jump all over this telling me my drivers are curropt of something didn't take, I have tried this video card in multiple systems with same result.  2nd DXdiag reports it as a 256, windows reports it as a 256 and all other games report it as a 256 meg card.  So is there any things that can do this?  I don't know.
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Post by: Overlag on April 29, 2005, 02:12:05 PM
ok that might be because your CPU limited then, meaning the gfx card cant do x0 any faster than x6
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: CHECKERS on April 30, 2005, 08:26:41 AM
Same here too , I was fine until the first patch for 2.03, now everything is in the crapper..

   I think it is the trees !!!!!!



   CHECKERS
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: Edbert1 on April 30, 2005, 09:20:41 AM
Don't kill the trees, think of the Spotted Owls!

Seriously, I hope the frame rates can be fixed without taking out the trees. They add a great deal to the dogfighting not just the cockroaching if you ask me. About 75% of my fights end up in their branches it seems, I love dueling with the wingtips just above them and dipping into the gaps at times. If you could see it without the slide show you'd like it too.

I REALLY hope they can find the bug that is causing so many of you to have this problem without taking out the trees.
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Post by: TBolt A-10 on April 30, 2005, 09:50:02 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Edbert
The amount of data (size of your textures) exceeds the physical memory of the card? Try loading them into system memory instead.
 


<-- never knew we had the option to decide which memory to use  :eek:

does one switch to loading into system memory by disabling the preload feature in AH??  or, is there another way of doing this?

thank you!

(anxious to hear more)
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: Edbert1 on April 30, 2005, 09:55:11 AM
Quote
Originally posted by TBolt A-10
<-- never knew we had the option to decide which memory to use  :eek:

does one switch to loading into system memory by disabling the preload feature in AH??  or, is there another way of doing this?

thank you!

(anxious to hear more)

When you launch AH2, before you choose online/offline there's a "Video Setup" option. This is where you get to choose the quality (size) of your textures (I elect to use 512 even though I can run higher to save the frame rate). There are also a couple of check boxes where you can elect to use system memory rather than video card memory.
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: CHECKERS on April 30, 2005, 10:03:47 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Edbert
Don't kill the trees, think of the Spotted Owls!

Seriously, I hope the frame rates can be fixed without taking out the trees. They add a great deal to the dogfighting not just the cockroaching if you ask me. About 75% of my fights end up in their branches it seems, I love dueling with the wingtips just above them and dipping into the gaps at times. If you could see it without the slide show you'd like it too.

I REALLY hope they can find the bug that is causing so many of you to have this problem without taking out the trees.


 Same here I would rather dogfight and furball on the deck in the weeds!and in the trees !   I die alot from trees poping up and crash into lots ah crap in the process ...but the fight is what I play the game for , win or die it's the fight that creats the buzz of playin' AcesHigh for me ......
 I hope that something gets fixed so the game plays like it did before this last patch ........ soon .

  CHECKERS
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: TBolt A-10 on April 30, 2005, 10:05:39 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Edbert
When you launch AH2, before you choose online/offline there's a "Video Setup" option. This is where you get to choose the quality (size) of your textures (I elect to use 512 even though I can run higher to save the frame rate). There are also a couple of check boxes where you can elect to use system memory rather than video card memory.


Thank you, sir.  

:)
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Post by: Schaden on April 30, 2005, 06:16:15 PM
Could someone plse post their settings if they're getting frame rates above say 45? 9800 users especially welcome.
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Post by: Schaden on April 30, 2005, 06:16:51 PM
Btw in Coral Sea event just finished I had frame rates of about 75...kill the DAMN TREES!!!!!
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: navajoboy on April 30, 2005, 06:28:26 PM
interesting subject:

1.4Ghz TBird
512 MB DDR 2100
Walmart special GeForce4 MX 440 64MB

Take off                        30 fps
Clouds                          60 fps
Porked Field (Smoke)   25 fps
Furball                          30 fps


THe way it sounds.. it could be the water?!?!?!

navajo24:aok :aok :aok
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: Nomak on April 30, 2005, 06:43:20 PM
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Originally posted by navajoboy
interesting subject:

1.4Ghz TBird
512 MB DDR 2100
Walmart special GeForce4 MX 440 64MB

Take off                        30 fps
Clouds                          60 fps
Porked Field (Smoke)   25 fps
Furball                          30 fps


THe way it sounds.. it could be the water?!?!?!

navajo24:aok :aok :aok


I think you are lying.
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: baine1 on April 30, 2005, 07:09:38 PM
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I think everybody should just chill out, try to download new drivers, and stop complaining about it. Thats not going to do anything.

It would be a sad day if that were true. "Complaining" is a way of letting HTC know there is a problem. Read the boards over the last month or so and it's pretty clear there is a problem for a good number of players.
The question that is still up in the air after a few long weeks of rotten framerates is if HTC values its improvements in eye candy over the playing needs of a portion of its customer base.
I would think removing some excess trees would be an easy, temporary fix, although I have to honestly say that I'm not sure of this. Maybe it takes time to chop some virtual trees from a mountain top or a field miles from any vehicle spawn point. Would it solve the problem? I don't know. But if the problem isn't caused by the trees it would go a long way toward convincing people.
Or maybe HTC is letting it's silence on the whole too many trees issues speak for itself. Then maybe we had better "all just chill out" or look for greener, albeit treeless, virtual pastures.
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: Edbert1 on April 30, 2005, 07:26:38 PM
Just one thought here...are any of you with framerate issues running the water 'thing" turned on?
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Post by: Overlag on April 30, 2005, 07:47:43 PM
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Originally posted by Edbert
Just one thought here...are any of you with framerate issues running the water 'thing" turned on?


the water "thing" halfs my FPS again, so no

oh and it looks dam right ugly and wrong lol
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Post by: AKDogg on April 30, 2005, 07:47:49 PM
Water effects are off for me.

take off I get 30 fps unless I taking off towards water which is up at 75fps.
about 5k ft its about 45fps, from there on it gets up to 75 which is where my refresh rate is at.

Video card settings: ATI XT800XL 256 meg

6x AA
AF off
1280x1024 res 32bit
about 2.75 mile view distance
full object size
1/2 graphic detail

Computer is a AMD 64 3200+ on a Nforce 3 250 (Asus K8N-E Deluxe)
1 gig ram
2 SATA Drives
SB Audigy 2z 24bit
1 gig lan (onboard)
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: aztec on April 30, 2005, 11:08:07 PM
Theres nothing wrong...it must be your drivers ...or the way you're holdin your mouth or something. I repeat...there is nothing wrong! Why can't you guys buy a new pute every week like the rest of us...There is Nothing wrong!!!
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Post by: WMLute on April 30, 2005, 11:17:32 PM
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Originally posted by Nomak
I think you are lying.



actually, fairly close to my spec's.  

p4 1.4
512SDRAM
FX5200 128mb
SB PCI128

tower 27-30
take off 22-28
6k up 35-45 fps
furballs  22ish

playable, but JUST BARELY.
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: IownU on May 02, 2005, 10:04:03 AM
i dont have fps problems i maintain a 45-75 fps so i think the trees need to stay and just upgrade your systems :D
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Post by: Elyeh on May 02, 2005, 11:02:44 AM
I too had a FPS drop after the patch.

Went from 50+ down to 25-30 FPS

Installed the new Omega drivers and I'm back up to 100+
(very rarely drop below 85)

ATi 9700 AIW 128
3.06 P4 Alienware
512 Ram

I had also just recently did a reformat and cleaned out alot of garbage so I'm sure that helped as well
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: dedalos on May 02, 2005, 11:46:40 AM
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Originally posted by LTARkilz
i dont have fps problems i maintain a 45-75 fps so i think the trees need to stay and just upgrade your systems :D


No prob.  Are you going to sent me a check, money order, or cash?  I can't afford to upgrade everytime these guys feel pretty.
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: Elfie on May 02, 2005, 02:11:23 PM
I played last night, and logged off in frustration due to crappy frame rates.

System:

Athlon 2000XP
512m ram
FX5700LE 128m vid

I ordered an Athlon 64 3200+ 939 pin cpu, 1 gig CorsairXMS ram and a Gigabyte N-Force 3 motherboard. Cpu and ram should be here today, motherboard hasnt shipped yet.

With my old  system the small maps arent to bad fps wise unless I get to a cat 4 or 5 furball. During prime time most of the frontline bases do have sizeable furballs. On the large maps it only takes 4 or 5 planes to drop my fps below 20.

I have tryed every combination of graphics settings in the game to increase performance. I currently run 800 x 600, 128 textures, preload textures to system ram, all sliders to the right, transitions, horizons, animated water, weapon and gv effects off. AA and AF are both off, vsync is on. It's just not possible to dumb the game down anymore.

If the new cpu etc doesnt help, I too will probably go elsewhere for my online fun.

I'm still baffled at how poorly my system runs a game with min specs of PIII 850, 64m vid and dx9 compatible sound.
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: IownU on May 02, 2005, 06:25:38 PM
lol i have not upgraded my system i dont even konw what this pile of watermelon is but it works with no problems i bet i have the chitiest puter on here and still works just fine lol bro do you take i owe yous hehehehe :lol
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: YUCCA on May 02, 2005, 09:54:46 PM
Turn down LOD.
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: GreenCloud on May 02, 2005, 10:07:07 PM
70;s in DA..

3-60's in Small maps...

30's to Teens BigMAps.


Please Please give us a Small Desert MAp..2ndMA

Im tired...and learning too much being a computer nerd...I never thougth Id try to OverClock my system...

Please stop me from learning about..drivers...overclockin. .DDR--SSD..ram..bla blah...video mem sys mem..Prosc voltage..case fans.....viruses..spam...disk defrag..disk cleanup...Procceses runing startup windows...Pings...routing...a rghhhhh


Dammti MAn..Can I put a quarter in and play?...lolol
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: Fury on May 02, 2005, 10:50:24 PM
Since I posted my specs and frames in this thread on the bug report forum (http://hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=148099)  I have changed my textures to 512 without losing frames.  I haven't tested since 2.03 tho, and I've never bothered to look when in a furball (I was most interested in checking around trees).  Maybe someone can look at that thread and figure out why my mediocre system gets acceptable frames while those with better systems don't.  I'm no expert.
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: Overlag on May 03, 2005, 07:44:22 AM
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Originally posted by YUCCA
Turn down LOD.


thats the problem ive turned it down so much that 2.03 looks WORSE than 2.02 yet STILL has VERY VERY unstable fps?
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: airbumba on May 03, 2005, 04:38:52 PM
I'm used to low fps, but now the game is pretty well unplayable. Regular teens furballs 3-8 cv groups, forgettaboutit.

Just as well, I'll go play some summer stuff. Get the boat ready and chit. Even the BBS is soundin a little on the fruity side lately, sad really.  Oh well, c'est la vie. Je mange pas mes shorts, c'est pas la fin du monde.
Title: Am I alone?
Post by: Murdr on May 03, 2005, 04:47:30 PM
Im running a 1.4G also (amd).  I found toning down the sliders to be unacceptable for game play (as far as visual SA with hangers, ect not displaying till you're on top of them, invisible GVs).  What I did find that I liked was using the visual range key commands.  I can fly and fight on short range, with acceptable frame rates, and switch to full range when I need it, without much effort.