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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Mighty1 on February 28, 2001, 07:44:00 AM
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I only saw a part of the speech but it seemed like the usual "Let's come together" crap the New President always give.
The thing that got me ticked off was that afterwards CBS gave the Democrats time to speak but didn't give the Republicans a change to defend themselves.
I also thought it was rude and disrespectful to the President the way they came out and told the American public that the President didn't know what he was doing and that he was going to ruin country.
The whole time the Democrates were saying how bad a President Bush was they were also saying they want to work things out. They kept saying it's up to him to meet them half way but they were already stepping back when they made the comments about Bush being wrong about most of his plans.
If you want to smooth things out and try to work together you don't go on National TV and bad mouth the President.
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*sigh*
I'm tired of politics and Reps. vs democrats.
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Saw it. Thought it was a good speech. Really appreciated the media as they kept the reemphasis on the notion that Bush had such low expectations that it was easy for him to exceed them. Media = toejame stirrers, guess it's a job security thing for them...
Eagler
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The Democratic rebuttal was interesting to me,especially how they poked holes in the duhhhhmb-ass Bush tax plan.
HMMM Texas has a budget crisis, can't understand why that is. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Originally posted by jihad:
The Democratic rebuttal was interesting to me,especially how they poked holes in the duhhhhmb-ass Bush tax plan.
Didn't see it, can you elaborate what holes?
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I remember when I was a child, looking up to adults as I thought they were most capable and very mature.
Now, I recognize behavior in adults that is prevelant in children, ie. I want my way, etc.
Only if Bush fights his opposition directly, will anything get done that he wants to accomplish. If he compromises his beliefs, then it will be more of the same.
If I were him, I would rather go down in flames and have my integrity in tact, then to compromise my beliefs to survive politically.
I guess we will soon see......
Ice
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jihad are you from Texas? If you are then could you tell me what budget crisis they are having? I've heard from alot of people who live in Texas that are very happy with Bush.
Or are you just listening to those 2 morons that were on last night after Bush gave his speech?
From what I heard they say that if we go by Bush's plan we will be back to where we were in the 80's(Republican era) but if we listen to them we will keep going on like we did in the 90's(Democrate era).
According to those 2 dimwits the economy having problems right now is Bush's fault. Hell they were blaming Bush for the economy before he even took office. To make things worse there are idiots out there that beleive them.
As far as them poking holes in his plan all they did was say the same crap they said during the election...You will lose medicare ....you will lose social security...you will have to work for a living..and so on .
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Dems have the "clinton syndrome" to over come first before anyone will be willing to listen. They continue to use class envoy and it just doesn't play anymore. Dems will have to go along with a tax cut(1.6 trillion) or find themselves on the out in the cold. The American people know that over charging in any area is unjust!! They are starting to understand they are being robed by Washington.
Yes, G W Bush is on the right track(88% approval rating)!!!
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Why do Republicans keep trying to give us our money back? What are they up to?
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Strange how everyone else lives within their means, on a budget but the democrats in DC don't want too.............. If they get less in (which they won't) they just have to spend less - maybe $45 a toilet seat instead of $100.
Eagler
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Mighty - it's nothing new or unusual. It's practically tradition to have the opposition leaders give their rebuttal after major adresses as this one to the Congress. You will see it after every State of the Union speech. Repubs got the same air time after Clinton's speeches. The same 'courtessy' is given after the Sunday radio adresses.
As silly as it all may look, coming out against the majority is practically in the opposition leaders' job description. No matter what the issue, really.
For what it's worth, I think Bush did a fine job. But speaking of tradition, the first State of the Union speech is always a softball affair.
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Have to agree with Nash here. The Dems were doing exactly what the Repubs did last year.
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Originally posted by Eagler:
Strange how everyone else lives within their means, on a budget but the democrats in DC don't want too.............. If they get less in (which they won't) they just have to spend less - maybe $45 a toilet seat instead of $100.
Eagler
Dinnae forget the several hundred dollars for a hand-held, multi-directional, manually operated force impact delivery system.
Guess they'll have to go to Sears or Home Depot and pay about 12 bucks for a good hammer like the rest of us (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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In all fairness it's even worse for the rebuttal, because they have to prepare that rebuttal before hearing the President's address, hoping they're even rebuking the right things.
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the budget crises in texas is because or stupid bellybutton govener make a tax plan that vastly over rated how the economy was going to do and only figured for 23 months in a a 2 year period.
its the same thing thats gonna happen on a larger scale when the econmy goes to crap as it usualy does under conservative ( republican presidents ) and the true cost of the tax cuts becomes apperent. its sad but history repeats its self.
we have a reagan clone selling voodoo economics. tax cuts dont stimulate spending never have never will. 3 years and 10 months left of this crap.
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tax cuts dont stimulate spending never have never will
You can argue the merits of government need vs tax burden, and/or deficits resultant from that, however the above statement is utterly rediculous.
Looking at this from the other side, do you insist as well that taking money away from people does stimulate spending, and always has?
[This message has been edited by Fatty (edited 03-01-2001).]
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Looking at this from the other side, do you insist as well that taking money away from people does stimulate spending, and always has?
He shouldn't, but he will. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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You need to think of the surplus in terms of the private sector and your employment. If you were overpaid (surplus) for your job description, you not think your employer would rectify the situation, salary freeze/pay cut? If the government is raking in more than it needs by the TRILLIONS, what is the harm in giving back a minute percentage of that to the ppl whose backs it originated off of in the first place? Do you not think if there was a deficit the government would not hesitate to raise taxes? They wouldn't think twice. There isn't a valid argument for not have a tax cut, even if the surplus wasn't what it is, the government just needs to live within their means - period. Stop the waste.
Eagler
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Nash, Kieren I'm not trying to start a Demo Repu fight here I'm just saying I think it's wrong no matter which side does it.
I could understand if Bush had been in office for a year or so and had made alot of mistakes but to denounce his plans before they are even given to Congress is a bit early IMHO.
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YEEHAAW, OFF TO THE BBQ Y'ALL! AN' DONT LET THE CLINTONS TAKE YONDER OFFICE SUPPLIES!
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The thing that got me ticked off was that afterwards CBS gave the Democrats time to speak but didn't give the Republicans a change to defend themselves.
Right... Point, Counter-Point, Counter-Counter-Point. Where does it end?
Reminds me of SNL.
Jane: "Dan, I know what you're going to say. You'll start with, 'Jane, you ignorant slut and then go on and on...'"
Dan: "Jane, you poor misguided potato."