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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Siaf__csf on May 01, 2005, 09:24:23 AM
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http://65.127.124.62/south_asia/4483241.stm.htm
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head shots. Practice head shots.
"oh lazs please lend me a gun or shoot the bad zombies for me waaa aaaa waaaa waa we're sorry we were such effite snobs about guns in the past waaaaa."
lazs
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Umm lazs we don't have zombies down here, nor do we need personal guns for safety.
Waaa, someone doesn't need guns, waaa I feel offended when someone doesn't feel he needs a gun, waaa waaa big deal even if you can get a _registered_ gun any time you like.
You really should get over that paranoia lazs. Without it you'd probably be a fun person.
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Someone did a great job hacking the BBC website
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Must be fun combined to the url poisoning hack on older browsers. :)
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yeah yeah... no zombies YET. "zombies? I don't see any zom.. arrrrgggh.."
we have crack zombies and welfare zombies and crank zombies...
lazs
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Sorry to hear that lazs.. we don't.
What I'm trying to say here is that you should try to understand we live in two totally different countries and your needs do not meet my needs in many cases such as weaponry.
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you mean that.... right now you don't feel the need..
I have never needed a seat belt probly never will.
lazs
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As I said lazs if (and it's a very big IF) the need should arise one day I can walk in and register for a carry permit.
Simple. As long as I don't have a criminal record as a burden.
The seat belt thing is interesting.. Are you saying you've never traveled in your car above 30mph speeds? I know I have.
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yes I have... and I allmost allways wear a seatbelt.... but according to your logic..
I don't really need to until after the wreck.
lazs
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No lazs. According to my logic once you pass the 30mph speed your chances of getting hurt in a collision rise exponentially.
As for now, living in here keeps you below the 30mph limit, flying to US would put me to 500mph travel speed. ;)
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soo.... you don't need a seatbelt if you don't go over 30mph? you do know that there are other cars on the road tho right? or.... are you relying on your government to make them behave?
addmitedly tho... some places are more dangerous than others... car wise or crime wise.
lazs
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Lazs lets just say I don't know anyone who ever even thought of getting a gun for personal safety.
I don't know anyone personally who ever got robbed in thier life or got thier house burglarized. Well, there is one exception but that happened in a country that's 3000km away from here. :)
The only place where I've even witnessed a physical assault during last 15 years was a night club full of drunk people. They don't allow firearms inside nightclubs if that's what you were thinking. ;) Nor could you use one.
So you're right.. I trust the law enforcement to handle the crime as it really isn't such a problem where I live.
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well then.. since it is impossible I guess you are as well prepared as you need to be.
lazs
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It's never impossible.
But at current state I can't see any reasonable reason for anyone at my neighbourhood to arm themselves for anything other than recreation.
For example my uncle own several (registered) handguns, a .22 single shot, a .22 auto and a .22 rifle with scope and silencer, a .44 auto and a 357 magnum revolver.
Occasionally we go to the range to burn some powder.
But for safety... just not necessary.
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Heh...
For a sec I thought it real...
I don't belive thats a true canine in the pic either..
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Jeeezzz... put Lazs in the same room with a lavalamp, he will argue with the lavalamp.
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I belive it is possible for somethin like that to happen though, kinda think it'd be cool if it was real..
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omg, I thought it was real until i read the bottom. hahhaaaa, I was about to mount an armored cage on my truck and go buy a 50 cal. Phew. Hahahaa it was good laugh though:aok :rofl
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Originally posted by ASTAC
Someone did a great job hacking the BBC website
Bah, that's no hack, just a little HARMLESS HTML FUN (http://home.rgv.rr.com/casamyers/beeb_zombies.stm.htm) :)
culero
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Sorry to hear that lazs.. we don't.
What I'm trying to say here is that you should try to understand we live in two totally different countries and your needs do not meet my needs in many cases such as weaponry.
You say that now but wait until the Zombie Invasion...
ack-ack
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Yep.. then it will be...
"oh please lazs lend me a gun or some ammo or else shoot the mean zombies for me... the guy with the keys to my guns isn't around anymore.."
lazs
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Originally posted by culero
Bah, that's no hack, just a little HARMLESS HTML FUN (http://home.rgv.rr.com/casamyers/beeb_zombies.stm.htm) :)
culero
*golf clap*
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Rofl Lazs if I did buy a weapon I'd hold the keys obviously. If I'm not around there's no need for guns anymore.
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siaf.. where do you live? You are allowed to keep loaded firearms and ammo in your house? That's cool. I am ok with that.
What restrictions do you have?
lazs
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this thread is why we need live chat. it'd save so much useful thread space
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Originally posted by lazs2
head shots. Practice head shots.
"oh lazs please lend me a gun or shoot the bad zombies for me waaa aaaa waaaa waa we're sorry we were such effite snobs about guns in the past waaaaa."
lazs
lol
Tronsky
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Lazs let's just say I live in northern europe. I don't really want to go into further detail on that because of the BB wars.
Yes we're allowed to keep guns as I believe most europeans are UK people excluded. You need a carry permit naturally and a shooting club membership of some sort if you want to obtain some heavy iron. Rifles and shotguns are easyest to get by getting a hunting license with a written exam.
Basically it's enough to have a clean criminal record and enough age but it won't hurt to have a reason to buy them (sugh as hobby shooting or collecting weapons.)
Nevertheless my uncle is basically the only one in my near family who owns firearms. He shoots for a hobby. Some distant relatives own rifles, shotguns etc. but one is a police officer and couple others hunt.
None of my friends or close friends of family is known to own weapons or even desire to do so.
//edit: Now that I think of it my friends father has a .357 of some sort.
It's probably a bit of a culture thing too, guns never symbolized freedom down here. We have our army and law enforcement and that's just enough for most.
I've seen weapons mostly when visiting farmers and people living outside cities. Maybe the urban people consider guns a bit of a hillbilly treat. ;)
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i live in the UK, have never owned a gun bigger than a .22 pellet gun.
but i bet $100 i could outshoot ya for accuracy, lazs :)
i have trained on the standard Army issue SA80 and LSW.
if zombies took over my town, I would find it far more rewarding to smash their skulls in with a 3 iron rather than shoot them. you will run out of ammo at some point, my arms will never lose the strentgh to smash zombie brains in.
yes, i guess im trolling.
oh, btw, someone told me to ask you to explain the 'Lazs conumdrum' or some such thing.
im curious.
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of course mechanic, his 5 other zombie buddies will be on you after you smash their buddies head in, you might get one or two with your 3iron then they eat your brains
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"Mechanic... I know youre up there... cause I can smell your... BRAAAAIIIINNNNSSSSS!!!!!"
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Lazs let's just say I live in northern europe. I don't really want to go into further detail on that because of the BB wars.
:eek: :eek: :eek:
Originally posted by Siaf__csf
I just couldn't let this pass even though I'm leaving..
Hangtime: First of all, there is no freedom of speech (yes you even spelled that wrong) on this board.
Lately this board has changed from an aces high discussion board to 'I hate euro euros hate me' kindergarten mud sling.
Most of the comments seen are so unbelievably dumb, ignorant and clearly a product of propaganda that it's just too much to digest.
If the general level of americans will be the level seen on this board, your nations time as no1 will finish at the very second your generation will be let to make decisions.
Actually voting Bush into power might effectively start the process already :p
So for your sakes, I hope the people posting here are just the dumb minority and do not represent the average citizen of the US.
That's it, I've said what I wanted and now it's goodbye. FYI my pissant nation never has had any handouts from your country. Just shows how little you really know and how much you believe of yourself.
Your country is not the savior of the whole ****ing planet even though your propaganda machine is trying to impose that on you, or maybe you just made it up by yourself?
Now **** off ignorant dickwad. When you learn to spell, come to visit me up here (that is never.)
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mmmm... so it is ok that I have my place of origin on the BB since all the euros are so kindly dispositioned to the U.S.? Seems a bit unfair... You could tell me that you are allowed to shoot pidgeons off the town square statuary with a .50 browning so long as you are wearing the right color tu tu in your "country" and there would be no way I could check on it.
you claim that no one in your country except for a few backward types owns firearms even tho they are cheap and plentiful and with no real restrictions for ownership...
This seems odd since most men find firearms at least interesting.
but still... that is as it should be... it should be up to each iondividual if he wants to have firearms and he should be able to do so with the least amount of infrigment from his government.
lazs
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Wow you sure know how to use the search function onewordanswer.
It's easy to dig up sentences pulled out of their context knowing nobody will ever do that to you since you're too chicken to really post anything original. Not that I could be bothered really.
You're limited to cut'n paste.
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that did seem like more than one sentance taken out of context tho.... and,.,, a tiny bit harsh I might add.
lazs
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Lazs I wouldn't call weapons cheap. You'd have to prepare to pay around $600 for a decent .44 or something similar.
Most people see no use for guns. If they're not interested in shooting as a hobby why would one buy one? Beats me.
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And thanks for your kind words lazs. I half deserve those pastes as I sometimes get too fueled up in these discussions.
I'm easy to fall on anti-euro trolls I guess.
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what country do you live in where $600 is a lot of money to spend on a recreational toy that will last for generations?
see the problem? I have no idea of where you are coming from... for all I know you live in some recently freed soviet satalite where $600 is a years pay.
What about ski boats? you guys have any use for them?
lazs
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Lazs I'd be happy to tell you the country I'm from but in a private message. I really don't want it public after all thats said and done.
That and I firmly believe on not revealing private information on the web. People have lost jobs and got into all sorts of trouble through weblogs etc. lately.
Ski boats? Sure some people have them. Northern europe just isn't a perfect enviroment for those as the summer and warm sea lasts for a relatively short time.
I do enjoy watersports when we spend time in our house in the mediterranean.
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emailing me your location in private would do no good for the purpose of BB conversation/debate.
for the purpose of this BB you are expecting me to believe a lot of things about where you live with absolutely no way for me to check up..
A simple example would be that you claim little or no restrictions on firearms and cheap ($600 44 mag revolvers) guns yet.... no one is even interested in owning them. this does not jive with what I have seen in the male human... the ones I take shooting all enjoy it and want to get a gun of their own.
Ski boats are very expensive and have their own restrictions is what I was getting at. if your countrymen can afford ski boats (pure wasteful recreation) then they have a lot of disposable income and firearms would be a pittance.
lazs
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......United Nations team will be dispatched to Cambodia to confirm the safety of biological research in Cambodia......
boy I feel safe already.
:rolleyes:
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Rofl Lazs so it wouldn't help you personally at all if I would tell you where I'm from? Why do you ask?
I enjoy shooting now and then. I don't enjoy shooting enough to invest $600 to a handgun and then $1-$2 a shot for ammo, making a hefty bill per month on daily shooting. Sure I could make my own loads but that's too much trouble already.
I prefer to invest the $600 to things like my Nokia 9300 communicator, flat screen display or a projector for the home cinema to give a few examples.
Our priorities are so much different from yours that it seems its really hard to understand. Just the basic fact that we do not feel so insecure in our lives to feel we need firearms for protection doesn't seem to sink in still.
Just the fact that I have 2 toddlers running about the house is reason enough for me to not to get a firearm in the house. They're just too dangerous compared to their benefits that I don't trust myself with the risk.
Just as I won't bring the wood chopping axe inside the house for the toddlers to play with I choose to keep my house clear of powder weapons.
And just a hint: If you want to check it up just check practically _any_ european country except United Kingdom. None of them have any other restrictions on gun ownership except having to register / get a legal permit for carry. That's all. (edit: that I know of anyway)
I think in switzerland each citizen actually holds thier government owned assault rifles at thier homes permanently after doing thier service.
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$1 to $2 a shot? where are you buying ammo? even here... fifty cents a round will buy you the best factory ammo fo a 44. twenty five cents is normal and reloads cost about 4-6 bucks a box of fifty... with all that stuff available your uncle must be kinda dumb to pay that.
It just sounds fishy with no way for me to check. there are reasons your countrymen don't own or carry guns and it isn't because... they simply have no interest.
knowing where you live and not being able to say it on the BB won't help me in these debates.
So far as I am concerned... the place you are talking about is fictional.
lazs
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Thread Hijack!!!!! Guns & Euros.... Thread Hijack!!!!
Now back to the Zombies.......
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Heh lazs.. you can believe whatever your conspiracous mind lets you to.
Yes ammo is quite expensive for large caliber handguns. And there is no other reason for the small amount of handguns except...
They aren't necessities for every day life so only people who see shooting as a hobby will buy them.
I really don't think my uncle is stupid for paying as much for ammo as it happends to cost down here. Are we stupid to pay 4 times the gasoline price compared to US too? Can you mail me some cheap gas?
// Edit I just checked the current ammo prices and I was wrong actually. A 100-box of .357 magnum which my uncle uses is only 32 euros ($45)
Seems I remembered the price wrong or he had some special ammo last time we went for shooting.
As I said, check any country except UK. Gun ownership is banned only in UK of the european countries I know of.
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Lazs you live in US where guns are an integral part of ( certainly your ) culture. We do not. No one says you have to get rid of them. We think it might be better for the US if you guys did but that is our opinion.
Likewise we seem quite happy without them so stop telling us we need em.
Cool, now we got that sorted out what about these zombies!?
From what I saw Dire straits albums seem to work!:lol
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Well.... at two bucks a round you probly want to line them zombies up so that you can get two or three with one shot but then...
if it costs that much then I don't suppose many of you guys even have a clue on how to shoot a handgun accurately. you would probly be better off throwing it at em and screaming at the top of your lungs...
"oh please lazs... we are sorrry we ever doubted you... please come and shoot the bad ol zombies cause we are effiminate euros who don't know how to shoot handguns."
lazs
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100 shots of magnum 357 $47. Hydra-shoks cost $30 for 20 pieces.
So if we should get a lazmbie invasion one day we'd have plenty of ammo waiting. :p
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does no good if you can't hit em... you need to practice for that... really.... watching people on TV shoot handguns won't be enough.
most handgun ammo here and in the rest of the world is sold in boxes of 50 tho BTW.
lazs
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I checked the first online price tag I could google locally lazs. I better e-mail them and tell them they sell non-standard boxes of ammo cuz lazs told so.
cal. .50 AES Samson 300 gr JSP 20 pc pack 23,50 euros/ 20 pc
cal. .40 S&W .Sellier & Bellot VLM 30,80 euros/100 pc
cal. .41 AE UZI 200 gr FMJ-FN 30,75 euros/ 50 pc
cal. .44 Mag IMI 28,10 euros/ 50 pc
cal. .44 Mag FEDERAL HydraS-HP 24,50 euros/20 pc
cal. .45 ACP Sellier & Bellot 30,80 euros/100 pc
cal. .357 MAG Sellier & Bellot TLM 158 grs. 32,00 euros/100 pc
cal. .357 Mag IMI VLM 158 grs 34,00 euros/100 pc
cal. 7,65/.32Auto Sellier&Bellot VLM 72 grs 32,00 euros/100 pc
cal. .30Lug/7,65Pb Fiocchi SJSP 93 gr 52,00 euros/100 pc
cal. 6,35/.25Auto Sellier&Bellot VLM 50 grs 31,00 euros/100 pc
An awful lot of 100 boxes of ammo just for sample.
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Use a Dire Straits Album! We don't need Guns!
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100 round boxes are pretty much unheard of here except for 22 rimfire. I shoot a lot of S&B and fiocchi ammo when I am too lazzy to reload or it is on sale for dirt cheap and it all comes in boxes of 50
A box of 50 of the cheap euro ammo is about 6-8 bucks for the 45 or 9mm or 40 stuff.
Why are you guys getting screwed so bad? No wonder no one owns or knows how to shoot handguns in lower slobovia where you live.
you guys are getting screwed and the zombies will sense it.
Shaun of the dead shows what happens when an effite country of pasty faced socialists encounters zombies... the only gun in town ( a lever actiopn winchester noted for accuracy and simplicity of action and reliability) becomes useless in there soft, inexperianced hands..
28 days later... the only people doing well against zombies are the army cause they have guns.
Your begging for me to save you from the mean ol zombies will be music to my ears... but I am a nice guy and I will pop em in the noggin with some 44's or 45's for ya... just stay behind me and out of the way.
lazs
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I think its quite the opposite lazs. The ammo is expensive because of the low demand.
We simply don't need guns in our houses.
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snow plows, the cost benefits are tremendous for the final solution of zombies. one simple motion it will decapitate and pile the bodies ready for burning.
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
We simply don't need guns in our houses.
in northern eurpoe aren't those ice bears a big problem?
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I still don't get it... we have the same internet and I can buy ammo cheap no matter where I live here. They don't care if dixon buys 1 box a year or a thousand a day.
lazs
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Well lazs I have to admit you have quite a few problems of 'getting it' in general it seems.
Price levels are different in different countries.
Your computer hardware is about 20% cheaper for example. I can buy cheaper dvd's from the US through mail order. Your gasoline costs less than half what it costs here due to differences in taxation.
On the flip side your medical expenses are tenfold compared to ours. Same goes for retirement homes and other social services. Getting sick in US can mean getting bankrupt financially.
Your insurance levels are initially lower I think but with accidents the levels skyrocket past our ever possible prices. At least that's what I heard from a friend living in US but that was like 15 years ago that I met him.
European cars cost more in US than they cost here. Why can't you buy a 'cheap' mercedes when I can buy one down here? I don't get it.
Many of the price differences can be explained with VAT alone. Others due to different levels of consumption - a typical scandinavian country has about the same amount of people all in all as New York state alone in US. Only the surface area is staggeringly bigger (meaning raised transportation costs for everything.)
I think it would do you good to get out of US for a month or two. You seem to have a serious case of tunnel vision.
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Originally posted by lazs2
I still don't get it... we have the same internet and I can buy ammo cheap no matter where I live here. They don't care if dixon buys 1 box a year or a thousand a day.
lazs
Find out how much NZ Bluff Oysters, and NZ Whitebait are in the USA then I'll tell you local prices. Its a combination of supply and demand.
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fiochii and S&B are euro ammo that is imported here. We pay half or much less than you do for it even tho it is made in your back yard.
we can get a deer in our back yard and...
I don't pay anything for medical.
Sounds like you guys are getting screwed.
lazs
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You don't pay anything for medical? Are you sure?
You must mean you've got a medical coverage through your employer which will end if you get laid off.
What if you need an operation twice? Three times?
I think someone who needs to carry for personal protection is the one screwed.
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Hmm... I have been treated when I had no medical insurance at all several times in my life and have been treated under several insurance plans. Worked out about the same except I felt a little less like a leach when I was "paying" for it through my job.
like I said... I buy ammo that is made in your back yard and pay half what you do.... we all buy computer stuff made by asians and you pay twice as much...
I can own guns if I want or..... not.
Seems you are the one getting screwed is u in lower slobovia there.
Today I will probly pop off a couple hundred rounds of 44 and 45 ammo... it will be fun and very inexpensive and good practice for the zombies..
you... on the other hand, will continue to think you are getting a good deal in your former soviet country and when the zombies come.... you will look like those effeninate brits in "shaun of the dead" or "28 days" flailing around with cricket paddles and such and making a lot of noise and not much else with firearms.
I believe choice is good... you believe freedom is slavery.
lazs
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You're wrong on so many levels lazs. You're a slave of your mind.
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wal-mart sells Winchester .45ACP by the 100 box. It's really dirty stuff though. I don't like it.
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If I wanted your kind of 'freedom' lazs I would probably move to US. I have no desire to do that though because I like it here.
At least here you can go to beaches and see topless women and g-strings all over. Every other word is not censored on tv. There are no religious biggots all over or people preaching about moral at every corner. You don't need to be politically correct here.
Quite frankly many of the aspects of american life today just horrify me. Your society is very very different from ours.
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sooo.... as long as you can see naked people on the beach and cuss on the radio it is ok to let your government control every aspect of your freedom. If they are taking most of your money and they are the only ones armed... it seems that you are the one who is living on borrowed time...
I don't care about nude beaches but we have em. we have all sorts of uncensored media.. Most of it is worthless tho... just one large infantile fart joke... little kids giggling over "bad" words and trying to get a rise out of adults.
What do you have in your country that I can't have here?
lazs
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IN describably IN teresting Zombie thread.
What do you have in your country that I can't have here?
Evidently what they DON`T have is the pleasurable Zombie melon thump contests. Shame.
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The new Romero film is suppossed to be out this summer.
lazs
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Well lazs we don't have politically correct whiners everywhere for starters. That aspect alone makes it worth the extra taxes. :D
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I could use a few less politically correct whiners but... short of declaring open season on em... what are ya gonna do?
lazs
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short of declaring open season on em... what are ya gonna do?
Politically correct = Zombie! ;)
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now you're getting it. no real life there... just shuffling and mouthing moans and groans and feeding off the rest of us.
lazs