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Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: Beefcake on June 06, 2001, 02:23:00 PM
:(  I really REALLY wanna try ww2ol, but I'm afraid my year old comp won't have the kick to do it. It's a:

Compaq AMD K7 Althon
500 mhz (not over clocked)
128 megs
Voodoo 3 1000 Vid card

do you think it will handle it? I mean I get 45-50 fps average in AH, even with alot of planes on the screen, but it usually drops to 15 in heavy smoke and clouds.


Btw.....can anyone splain to me how to overclock a comp?  :)
Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: MrBill on June 06, 2001, 02:29:00 PM
Try Here http://www.overclockers.com/ (http://www.overclockers.com/)
Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: Fatty on June 06, 2001, 02:38:00 PM
No, it won't.  Not if you're going to try to fly.
Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: Fury on June 06, 2001, 02:44:00 PM
I don't know about the vid card...even tho 128 RAM is listed as the min, you may want to consider 256.
Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: Maverick on June 06, 2001, 02:46:00 PM
Maybe you should go to the ww2ol forum and ask there. Last time I checked this was the AH BBS.    :p

Mav

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Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: Westy MOL on June 06, 2001, 02:50:00 PM
Instead of plugging your gear into a 110volt outlet try using one labelled 220volt. That should give your computer an appreciable boost. If you do not notice the differnce emmediately, well..... you're blind and have no sense of smell
 Just don't forget to plug the clothes dryer back in when you shut the PC off when you're done.

   Dr Rufus Westyheimer


(p.s.  why not ask on thier boards? It's like the guys trying AH out and asking how to fix a problem on thier boards. Not that you can't her of course. Just seems more help would be there for you)
Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: Toad on June 06, 2001, 02:52:00 PM
Beef,

As a MINIMUM first thing to do, bump your RAM to 256. 512 would be even better.

If that doesn't hack it, you're going to have to boost the CPU.

...and I KNOW what I'm talking about here.   ;)

I'm running an O/C Celeron at 850 w/256 and a GeForce2 STS. For my personal standards of play/framerate this was a miminally acceptable system.

Try the RAM first though. No matter what CPU you end up with you'll need at least 256 IMO.

Good luck!

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Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: Vulcan on June 06, 2001, 02:53:00 PM
Beef... PIII-600, 256Mb PC133 SDRAM, Geforce 2MX. Point it at the online action... 5-15fps flying. Now we all know doubling cpu speed doesn't double framerates, so I think you can figure the rest out.

Oh, BTW, that was 1024x768 @ 16 bit.
Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: Torgo on June 06, 2001, 03:25:00 PM
The real issue is going to be your connect...and I'm not talking about  playing it. I'm talking about patch download.

There's already a mandatory 60mb patch. If you don't have DSL or cable you're looking at a monumental download.

And I can't get DSL or Cable unless I move, and even my dialup can't get above 26.4

I have a strong suspicion that there are going to be 20mb+ mandatory patches on a very regular basis.

To be honest, they should put "broadband" in the official "recommended" requirements and leave the minimum at 56K, but we all know they'd never even dream of doing that, for marketing purposes.
Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: Sandman on June 06, 2001, 04:56:00 PM
Yeah... the 56K hurts. I'm on the closed beta. It takes hours to download so I typically start the download before I go to bed.

cheers
sand
 (http://www.screaminbluemessiahs.org/image/signature/sandman.jpg)

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Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: Toad on June 06, 2001, 04:59:00 PM
Hate to report this but...

Just played it again online and my frames were pretty much unacceptable for _air_ combat. (I hadn't played it for the last 3-4 updates; was out of town.)

I could no longer honestly say my system is good enough.    :(

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Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: Vulcan on June 06, 2001, 05:31:00 PM
I'm begining to think the CRS guys should have flagged the air combat like the naval stuff and polished up the land side first.

I wish I wish WWIIOL would succeed coz it'd be my dream come true. But... reality can be nasty.

On the bright side there were 302 people logged in a few minutes ago.
Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: jihad on June 06, 2001, 05:34:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Toad:
Hate to report this but...

Just played it again online and my frames were pretty much unacceptable for _air_ combat. (I hadn't played it for the last 3-4 updates; was out of town.)

I could no longer honestly say my system is good enough.    :(


HOLY COW!

That combined with a modem connection DEFINITLY counts me out of it.
Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: Vulcan on June 06, 2001, 06:25:00 PM
Yeah main problem is when you get near other players the framerate goes through the floor. Some people are rattling the cage and saying you now need 512Mb of RAM. Seems a bit excessive to me.
Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: Dinger on June 06, 2001, 08:15:00 PM
ok.  Here's my view:
It works fine with 384 megs.  256 probly is ok.  But with 128, you're not going to be doing any flying that's fun, due to HD thrashing.
As for FPS, well, it all depends.  THink of AH.  Normally, you're flying with maybe 5 other vehicles in the visible area.
Now think of WW2OL.  THere are areas of sparse battle, then there are the "hot spots."  Imagine a combined-arms fight over a town with 100 vehicles and troopers slugging it out, destroyed buildings, smoke and the rest.  That's cool as all hell, and a helluva lot of fun to be in, but if you're trying to fly a plane, you better have one sweet rig.

If you go for areas of medium activity, you can find decent FRs. Not great, but decent.

On the bright side, there are things that CRS can do to improve FR and reduce HD thrashing, and no doubt they will.  So it only gets better.

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Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: Vulcan on June 06, 2001, 08:49:00 PM
Actually Dinger the situation I was thinking of would have had barely 12 people in the area total.

The framerate was fine until the combat zone was reached. There was no hard drive thrashing going on - the framerate just dropped through the floor.

I've been in much more densely populated combat situations in AH without such hits.

Don't get me wrong. Jumping on the back of an A13 to get a lift to the frontline was absolutely awesome.

The issue is I have truckloads of other software with much better and busier graphics (DF3, Falcon 4) that don't take these framerate hits. My guess is its the graphics engine waiting for server updates. But I don't really know anything cept my PC dishes out toejam hot graphics elsewhere without these problems.
Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: Beefcake on June 06, 2001, 09:05:00 PM
well I guess I'll have to wait....I'll save my money and buy me somemore ram and maybe a new vid card. it sucks that if I want to play this game that I have to revamp my system. maybe by the time I get some ram and stuff, WW2ol will have the bugs squashed and the game will be better
Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: Toad on June 06, 2001, 10:14:00 PM
Well, Beef, if it's any consolation you are not alone.

I guess I'll start looking around tomorrow at upgrade stuff.    :(

Vulcan, that has been my experience as well. Frames are usable, not great, until I encounter even a few other aircraft.

It was actually screen-locking for a few seconds when I was in a flight of about 8 spits above the cloud deck.

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Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: Gadfly on June 06, 2001, 11:33:00 PM
That is bad news indeed.
Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: Eagler on June 07, 2001, 09:42:00 AM
wonder what the legalities are in marketing the "patches" ??

 :)

SASE and $19.95 - the latest patch is headed ur way - no guarantees it'll work any better than before the patch but I'm up $20  :)

Eagler
Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: NHFoxtro on June 07, 2001, 09:58:00 AM
Vulcan, after you got to the front line how was the game besides FR drop?
Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: Mickey1992 on June 07, 2001, 10:51:00 AM
I have a PIII 600 and a Viper V550 and my FRs are usually around 20.  Although I have not been in a battle with more than 3 others yet.  In a tank in a city it sometimes hits 8-10 FPS

Killer recently said:
"I want to see performance up, memory requirements down. It's possible to get more efficiency from what we have but it won't be quick and it wont' be easy. I will have guys dedicated to that task and nothing else as soon as I can."

At least the Rats have their priorities straight.   :)
Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: Wilbus on June 07, 2001, 11:55:00 AM
Don't try and overclock an AMD CPU.

AMD is allready running near limit of what it can take, if you overclock it there is a chance it will brake, or more likely shut down every now and then cause of heat.

WW2OL is nice but you need a Kick A** computer, I jsut upgraded my RAM to 256 and it takes away the HD Trashing but as long as you're running bellow 600Mhz you won't get many FPS out of it.

I am on a 450Mhz and I just got out from a battle with 0.5-3.5Fps before my crew got killed.
Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: Maniac on June 08, 2001, 03:05:00 AM
Beef,

Buy the game now to support the development of the game, djust dont go online untill you see an patch that fixes the framerate issue...

Thats my suggestion anyway   :)

Edit : of course you can do the troop/tank thing untill the framerates improves...

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Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: Beefcake on June 08, 2001, 11:28:00 AM
well I want to buy the game, but it's not in stores around here yet, but when I get it I will most likly want to do tanks as that is what I bought the game for  :)
Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: Thud on June 08, 2001, 11:46:00 AM
"Topic: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL"

Well right now it looks more like WW2OL not being able to handle your computer..... or anyone else's for that matter  :mad:
Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: MrRiplEy on June 08, 2001, 12:23:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Wilbus:
Don't try and overclock an AMD CPU.

AMD is allready running near limit of what it can take, if you overclock it there is a chance it will brake, or more likely shut down every now and then cause of heat.

WW2OL is nice but you need a Kick A** computer, I jsut upgraded my RAM to 256 and it takes away the HD Trashing but as long as you're running bellow 600Mhz you won't get many FPS out of it.

I am on a 450Mhz and I just got out from a battle with 0.5-3.5Fps before my crew got killed.


Uhm hate to break this to you Wilbus, but the new Duron and Thunderbird AMD's are the best overclocking CPU's you can find at present time. With enhanced cooling you're almost guaranteed at least 20% performance increase by overclocking. That is if you didn't happen to get a bad individual cpu.
Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: Wilbus on June 09, 2001, 03:22:00 AM
Ok, didn't mean Duron, didn't know about The Thunderbird so thanks for telling me  :)

Wilbus
Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: Senor_ding_dong on June 09, 2001, 11:42:00 AM
There working on the FPS Issue. Just give it about 2 weeks. Its also becuase of the servers. Im buying game on monday but i wont go online untill servers are fixed.
Title: I'm worried that my computer won't be able to handle WW2OL
Post by: bowser on June 10, 2001, 04:10:00 PM
Like ding dong says, most people no matter their system are having fps problems.  I'm sure once the server/connect issues are stabilized that this is the next hot issue.  I would hold off on any major system upgrades for a few weeks.

bowser