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General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: Edbert1 on May 01, 2005, 07:57:20 PM
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I submitted this one today...
(http://www.edbert.net/images/red1e.jpg)
(http://www.edbert.net/images/red1f.jpg)
(http://www.edbert.net/images/red1g.jpg)
(http://www.edbert.net/images/red1h.jpg)
(http://www.edbert.net/images/red1i.jpg)
(http://www.edbert.net/images/red1j.jpg)
(http://www.edbert.net/images/red1k.jpg)
(http://www.edbert.net/images/red1l.jpg)
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oh man this sux, i did the same skin and submitted it already!
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Good except I find the rivet to much visible.
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great work edbert, just one remark from a german ;)
on the side it should say:
Verkaafts mei Gwand, I foahr In Himmel!
"austrian slang :rolleyes:
greets
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I wonder what the protocol is for duplicate aircraft submissions.
I noticed the supercharger intake needs some exhaust stains underneath it, and I can edit the text to reflect the correct bavarian slang if needed.
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Here's my info.txt file:
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Name: "Red-1" JV44 Spring 1945
Game ID: Edbert
Bulletin Board ID: Edbert
Email Address: edbert at gmail dot com
Contact Phone Number: 512.771.XXXX
Information: FW190-D9 known as "Red-1" was flown by Leutnant Heinz Sachsenberg from Munchen-Reim until the end of the war. The squadron Jagdverband 44 was led by Generalleutenant Adolph Galland and flew airfield cover for the Me262s, the red underside was to alert german AA defense untis that the aircraft was "friendly". Heinz Sachsenberg was one of the last few "experten" having racked up 104 victories. The slogan on the side means "Sell my clothes I'm going to heaven".
http://www.zootoyz.net/index.html?target=p_315.html&lang=en-us
http://rafiger.de/Homepage/FBMuseum/Info-JV44/Info-JV44.htm
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=86955&item=6529240956&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
http://www.modelaces.com/model148_fockewulf_190d9.html
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I have to second that...
Great skin BUT the plane lines are way way way too thick.
If you have em at 1pt you need to lower the opticity or transparency of that layer. Atm it looks like a lego plane.
Tex
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Are you refering to the ones on the fuselage or the wings or both? I ask becuase I used a different technique on them. The ones on the fuse have a little too much (too opaque actually) "dirt" streaks applied to the existing panel lines. The ones on the wings look okay to me utill you are inside the plane looking out, that's why I posted the interior view. The ones on the wings are the same as the fuse minus much of the dirt, maybe I'll try to lighten them all up a bit and see what happens.
I'll be happy to tweak this in any way that the community or HTC decides to be appropriate, but not unless it gets the nod. I'm still dissapointed that our BBS method (the "sticky" at the top of this forum) for avoiding having two skinners working on the same plane failed to prevent it from happening. These things take a lot of time and no matter which skin gets approved somebody has wasted a lot of it.:(
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Edbert TY sir!!!
i will agree though, the panel lines especially on the front of the fuselage are a bit to "strong" or thick.
i'd say cut down on the rivet visibility a bit on it too, but that's just my opinion.
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Edbert, since almost all of the p51Ds are 90% identical, and seeing that we have 2 different versions of the same shark's-mouth F6F already in the game, and seeing that MANY skins are nearly identical (or even identical in some cases) I don't think it'll be a problem.
Chances are they'll accept both, is my guess.
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We have a protocol for duplicate submissions.
The best looking one wins.
This is why it is important for skinners to make a post about what they are working on. And, of course, equally important for someone starting or wanting to do a skin to check this forum beforehand.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
This is why it is important for skinners to make a post about what they are working on. And, of course, equally important for someone starting or wanting to do a skin to check this forum beforehand.
If someone notify's that they are submitting, and the other person does not...
shouldnt the person that notify's get their skin added?
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Edbert
Its mainly the fuselage the lines are so thick and visible that the entire plane looks "painted" you know cartoonish. I kind of get an Il-2 feel when watching it and my main problem with Il-2 graphics is that they look "painted and cartoonish".
The bottom of the wings look really really good while the top side of the wings have a bit same problem as the fueselage.
I dont mean to be a wet rug and dont want to sound arrogant because I couldnt skiin my way out of a paperbag. But I can say what looks good in my eyes and what doesnt. ;)
Another thing that could be improved is the wathering on the back of the cockpit and inside of the wings... looks too obviously airbrushed... softing it down a bit would be nice..
Very good choise of skin as the scheme is awsome.
Tex
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Originally posted by TexMurphy
I dont mean to be a wet rug and dont want to sound arrogant because I couldnt skiin my way out of a paperbag. But I can say what looks good in my eyes and what doesnt. ;)
I only speak for myself but I never ignore advice, I may not follow it but only a fool refuses to listen to it. I appreciate all the advice I get, particularly when it is constructive. The comments like "you suck" don't happen here very much but those I DO ignore :D
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Furby, duplicates happen. We have to pick and the best one will win. We owe it to the skinner and to the community to put the best work available into the game.
It is not a personal thing and I hope the skinners realize that. When someone raises the bar it causes a nice trickle effect and everyone does better. No one loses. We just have to make a choice.
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Other than the minor details others mentioned, I have nothing further to add other than:
Jeng! (or Zheng!)
i.e. right on! in Cantonese. Nice job on the skin Edbert!
mauser
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Nice skin, hope we'll see all the JG44 skins.
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Edbert it looks great. I see a few things. The number 1 on the side is in the wrong style font. You may actually need to make the font for that.
The German symbol is generally wrong. The insignia should be slightly lower than center on the compartment door and it needs to be alot wider, needs more bulk to it.
The wings have too many white lines. The 9th line towards the end of the wing needs to go. There were only a total of 8 lines on the wing assembly itself and 2 more on the main fuselage. Also the horizontal stabs are missing a line. There should be a total of 3 lines on them.
The symbol below the canopy line may actually be out of scale too. Looks like it needs to be slightly larger.
Also the yellow spinner is slightly larger than it should be. There should be a very distinguishable gap between the blades and where the yellow on the spinner starts.
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Pretty good.
The top of the wings' rivet and paneling look a bit heavy, the fuselage's are definitely too bold.
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Okay, edited the following list (appreciate the feedback!):
Slogan changed to correct speeelign problem.
Exhaust stains placed under supercharger intake, and generally "browned" up a bit.
ALL rivets and most panel lines are toned WAY down, the ones on the underside to a lesser extent since the dark red masks them.
Font corrected on the "1", you were right, I had to make my own...aaarrrgh!
Side insignia corrected and relocated (why did they put early war style cross on a 1945 plane?).
Size of yellow on spinner altered.
Here's some screenies:
(http://www.edbert.net/images/2005/screenie4.jpg)
(http://www.edbert.net/images/2005/screenie5.jpg)
I'll recompile the submission if you think it is ready.
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looks great !!!
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<<<< Don't like belly much sry looks great tho
Sir