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Title: Big Hairy Bird of the 397th BG, 599th BS
Post by: Raptor on May 03, 2005, 07:14:03 PM
I had trouble telling the difference between yellow and metal in the black and white picture, I had to guess how the yellow curved around the bottom.
Also I had trouble telling the color of the .50 cal mounts, I judged by the first picture that one was metal, and guessed the rest were metal as well.

There are bugs with the B26 skin, so its not 100% accurate.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/201_1115165227_hairyb26.jpg)

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/201_1115165456_hairy.jpg)
Title: Big Hairy Bird of the 397th BG, 599th BS
Post by: sullie363 on May 03, 2005, 07:19:39 PM
Nice skin.  Good to see B26s being done.
Title: Big Hairy Bird of the 397th BG, 599th BS
Post by: United on May 03, 2005, 07:58:06 PM
Is the leading edge on the outer invasion stripe supposed to be bare metal? or was there a glitch that needed that color spot to be metal?

Other than that it looks pretty good.
Title: Big Hairy Bird of the 397th BG, 599th BS
Post by: Raptor on May 03, 2005, 08:24:27 PM
I think thats a light you are looking at
Title: Big Hairy Bird of the 397th BG, 599th BS
Post by: TexMurphy on May 04, 2005, 11:04:53 AM
Very nice choise of skin but it really needs to be weathered and some oil smudge from the engines wouldnt hurt either.

Tex
Title: Big Hairy Bird of the 397th BG, 599th BS
Post by: Raptor on May 04, 2005, 04:57:47 PM
Hows that?
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/201_1115243742_oil.jpg)
Title: Big Hairy Bird of the 397th BG, 599th BS
Post by: Krusty on May 04, 2005, 05:30:55 PM
Raptor, looking good so far, but here's a link to a pic and the caption of it:

Link to Image (http://320thbg.org/phaircraft_017.html)

"They leaked almost as much oil as they burned"

Don't forget to weather the belly!!
Title: Big Hairy Bird of the 397th BG, 599th BS
Post by: TexMurphy on May 05, 2005, 08:06:51 AM
The smudge does look tooo heavy... but its really hard to tell exactly without having the skin it self and beeing able to rotate the plane...

When doing oil smudge its very important that it is in places where it really could be...

Here are some links to worn and dirty B26s... dont need to be as weathered or as dirty... but gives you material to work with...

http://b26marauder.com/b26/defeater.jpg

http://b26marauder.com/b26/martin_flying.jpg

http://b26marauder.com/b26/marauderpc.jpg

At the last one look at the replaced metal plateing... its also a way to make planes look rugged...

So work on making it look less painted... both the skin and the oil smudge... weathering needs to be added.. maybe a replaced metal plate here and there (not too many)... weathering could be applied to the nose job as well to make it look less painted..

This skin is suppoed to be bare metall right?

If so then the materials.txt needs to be edited...

Tex
Title: Big Hairy Bird of the 397th BG, 599th BS
Post by: Howitzer on May 05, 2005, 09:46:17 AM
Very Nice Raptor!!
Title: Big Hairy Bird of the 397th BG, 599th BS
Post by: thebest1 on May 05, 2005, 01:26:33 PM
I hate to critic but, needs weather though, idk all your B26's look alil rushed in. take your time and experiment with a few things. add scratches and paint fading and dirt.  Look at picutres of the real plane and look at how it was scratched and realize that some parts of the lpane gets more scratched than others.  I like the look of the plane though and im looking forward to seeing what yuo do in the future.
Title: Big Hairy Bird of the 397th BG, 599th BS
Post by: Raptor on May 05, 2005, 10:41:43 PM
I dont mind critics, thats what helps improve these skins is it not?
Found a new tool to play with and it gave me pretty good effects so here is what I came up with.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/201_1115350662_weather.jpg)
Hard to get a good SS in the game of the bottom because B26 cant fly level upside down so here is what the bottom looks like in the skin viewer.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/201_1115350835_bottom26.jpg)
Title: Big Hairy Bird of the 397th BG, 599th BS
Post by: TexMurphy on May 06, 2005, 02:31:34 AM
Now this DOES look alot better... awsome!!!!

One thing though... some of the weathering does look mirrored.... when its too symetrical it does look a bit strange...

Also still looks like you have not yet played with the materials.txt file. Which needs to be done.

Also the invation stripes need some weathering on them as it now looks like they are "taped over" a dirty plane.

But great improvement!!!

Tex
Title: Big Hairy Bird of the 397th BG, 599th BS
Post by: Raptor on May 06, 2005, 03:39:38 PM
B26 hasnt been updated yet, lots of mirroring, no material.txt file yet.
I dont have the invasion stripes go over the top of the fuselage because they are mirrored further up on the fuseloge.
Title: Big Hairy Bird of the 397th BG, 599th BS
Post by: thebest1 on May 06, 2005, 04:09:24 PM
look at some bare metal skins and try to replicate what the skinners did to make it look like that (its all shading and blurs)
Title: Big Hairy Bird of the 397th BG, 599th BS
Post by: Raptor on May 06, 2005, 04:36:39 PM
I lightened each panel seperately with a touch-up tool to try to replicate metal and had some panels slightly darker than others.

did some stuff to the invasion stripes
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/201_1115414948_top.jpg)

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/201_1115414683_bottom.jpg)
kinda hard to tell that I lightened up some of the black stripes
Title: Big Hairy Bird of the 397th BG, 599th BS
Post by: Krusty on May 06, 2005, 07:27:00 PM
get some speed, a little alt, and position the camera, then roll the joystick (breaking auto pilot) until you are inverted. The sunlight lights up your belly, you can get a shot or two, then F1, correct (you will probably be in a dive by now) and reposition/redo. Does wonders for belly screenshots.
Title: Big Hairy Bird of the 397th BG, 599th BS
Post by: TexMurphy on May 06, 2005, 07:34:25 PM
Ahhh thats why its so symetrical with the weathering... bah.. :/

well guess not much you can do about it...

Does look really nice now though... you could try instead of "dirtying" the invation stripes do wathering on them as in worn out paint...

Tex.