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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: sniper68 on May 03, 2005, 09:45:16 PM
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ok how much money am i gonna have to dish out to get someone to put new planes in the game
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what sort of new planes do you want ?
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i really dont even care we just need more more german bombers more russian birds and new models of the planes not even that actually just new weapon sets for later war planes like the spit9 i think with the 40mm stuff like that
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Originally posted by sniper68
i really dont even care we just need more more german bombers more russian birds and new models of the planes not even that actually just new weapon sets for later war planes like the spit9 i think with the 40mm stuff like that
40mm on a Spit IX? Think I missed that one :)
Dan/CorkyJr
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my bad i ment 4 20mm
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I want the Ju-87D-5 with the wing mounted 20mm cannons or the G-2 with the 37mm cannon pods.
ack-ack
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Agreed Ack-Ack...
I'd like to see some unique gun packages. They can be perked, but I need something to spend my buff perks on.
Special gun package Ju-87s...
Night Fighter Ju-88s (yeah, night isn't modeled but they would just be fun...)
B-25s w/ 75 mm...
And:
MORE MOSSIES!!! That would be a nice buff addition. Late models w/ the 4K bomb or anything with the bomb sight.
But I must agree w/ sniper68 too. We are in dire need of more Russian planes. LaGG 3s and Migs were staples of mid-war Russia.
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ya that is my biggist pet peeve right now is the gun loadouts just need more selection for the diff models . that stuka would be nice AKAK
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I would love to see more Soviet planes like
(early)
I-16 type 24 (one with 2x 20mm )
LaGG-3 Series 4
MiG-3
(mid)
P-39Q (russian only!)
Yak-9M (a must neeeeed standard mid-war fighter)
Pe-2 (a must neeeeed Soviet bomber)
(late)
Yak-3(Russia's Spit 5 with La-7 acceleration)
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Not to get on a p-39 rant, but if they make the model, no reason why it shouldnt be for all three nations, talk about killing three birds with one stone, something that cant be said for any other plane type. "thats not already here"
And yeah more early-mid war planes.
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Originally posted by sniper68
ok how much money am i gonna have to dish out to get someone to put new planes in the game
Like, Oh say, the L4? Was used extensively. Caused the death of alot of armor. Was feared by the enemy.
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Mk103 would be nice.....could go on the Me110, 190's and Ju88's..easier than new planes but would give planes better ability to move mud and kill tanks...not to mention buffs!!
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
I want the Ju-87D-5 with the wing mounted 20mm cannons or the G-2 with the 37mm cannon pods.
ack-ack
I, as a Stuka junkie (yea I know they are slow but I likes em') would love to see this. I would also love to see the HE-111 (not the spanish licese built one) along with the JU-52. I mean it would be nice. :aok
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
I want the Ju-87D-5 with the wing mounted 20mm cannons or the G-2 with the 37mm cannon pods.
ack-ack
or what about the Fieseler Storch with the flak 88?
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
I want the Ju-87D-5 with the wing mounted 20mm cannons or the G-2 with the 37mm cannon pods.
ack-ack
As long as we get the Il-2M3 in the same Patch, I'm totally on board :p
-Sik
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B-25H Nuff said.
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Originally posted by BaDkaRmA158Th
Not to get on a p-39 rant, but if they make the model, no reason why it shouldnt be for all three nations, talk about killing three birds with one stone, something that cant be said for any other plane type. "thats not already here"
no, They should make separate P-39 models for the Soviets and Americans.
The air corps in pacific used P-39Ds and P-400. The Russians used the more advanced and lightened P-39Q. If HTC only build P-39Q and use it in PAC scenarios, A6Ms and Ki-43s will be overwhelmed (lol).
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herees someting easy to make... Yak-9M, Ju-87G-2, and A6M3!
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Forget uber yaks. We got uber yaks as it is. No reason in the world to make nearly identical planes.
But what I think would be interesting would be a Ta152C (shoter wings, like the A-8, 5 guns, stronger engine than the A8, but heavier. Would be a sweet bomber buster)
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who needs more planes if everybody flies the La7. I'd like to see the beaufighter, but how can one use it in AH?
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Originally posted by spitfiremkv
who needs more planes if everybody flies the La7. I'd like to see the beaufighter, but how can one use it in AH?
I was wondering that myself. What do you think would be good alternatives for the La7 and some of the more popular planes, that are not already in the game. It seems like everytime I come in here, I learn about some new plane or variation that sounds very nice. If new planes were added, it would be nice if they were able to break up some of the tighter followings.
I am also for a/c that would allow reinactments that are not possible without them. Maybe the Beaufighter would fall into that categorie, and as far as I know, it was an important aircraft. I think it might have enough fans to see some use outside these reinactment type scenarios as well, not shure though.
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Originally posted by Krusty
Forget uber yaks. We got uber yaks as it is. No reason in the world to make nearly identical planes.
Yak-9M as an uber-moose? Yak-9M is basically a Yak-9T with only a 20mm gun. Nothing special.
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Yak9T is pretty damn good.. only reason people don't fly it is because they can't hit crap with it. Make them able to hit crap with it (20mm instead of 37mm) and we'd have lots more yaks around.
I, on the other hand, LIKE the 37mm lol :) I CAN hit crap with it, if I live long enough to get into position.
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I got 1...B-29 with n00kies!!@
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My top 3 fav's
Piper Cub
(http://www.netaxs.com/~mhmyers/cdjpgs/cub.jpg)
Sopwith
(http://www.fineartmodels.com/img/model/aircraft/sopwith/sopwith.jpg)
Cesna
(http://www.cmodels.it/acrobatic/grafica/FILES%20GRAUPNER/cesna%20182.jpg)
:aok
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Originally posted by Sikboy
As long as we get the Il-2M3 in the same Patch, I'm totally on board :p
-Sik
Whats wrong with the one we have?
Eastern front 44
New stuff that would be neat
P39
Pe2
Studebaker truck & trailor with katyusha/88mm/etc
Me410
Ju52 (no I am not holding my breath)
Panther / King tiger
VVS upgrades
Yak3
Yak 9M
T34 44
LW Upgrades
Ju87 G
The MA would use the Yak3 IMO just as it uses the SpitV now beside the SpitIX.
You know the uber tanks and mobile artilery will be used.
Attack stuff ..................... maybe..............
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lol this forum should have POLL enabled so we can all vote and not create loooong threads...:)
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Originally posted by Tilt
Whats wrong with the one we have?
I'm interested in the NS-37 firing AP ammo.
-Sik
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Originally posted by Krusty
Yak9T is pretty damn good.. only reason people don't fly it is because they can't hit crap with it. Make them able to hit crap with it (20mm instead of 37mm) and we'd have lots more yaks around.
I, on the other hand, LIKE the 37mm lol :) I CAN hit crap with it, if I live long enough to get into position.
I don't see it. There's nothing the M will do that the U doesn't do better. I think that most people don't fly the "T" because it's underpowered, and once it spends its E it cant get it back.
Yaks are pretty much all I fly in the MA though, so maybe I'm picky.
-Sik
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Originally posted by DaddyAck
I, as a Stuka junkie (yea I know they are slow but I likes em') would love to see this. I would also love to see the HE-111 (not the spanish licese built one) along with the JU-52. I mean it would be nice. :aok
I love flying the Stuka too when I get bored of flying fighters. But my reason for the cannon gun package is a little self serving, I want them not for killing GVs but rather for dogfighting as that's what I use the Ju87 for. It's a great little stall fighter.
ack-ack
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WWI~~~
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Originally posted by MOIL
My top 3 fav's
Sopwith
(http://www.fineartmodels.com/img/model/aircraft/sopwith/sopwith.jpg)
I think the Pup was nicer looking than the Camel, both similar but the Pup didnt have the famous "hump": -
(http://www.museumofflight.org/collections/images/aircraft/sopwithpup_1_lrg.jpg)
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You know what would be cool?
Well, a lot of things. And I'm not saying I want this next, because there are more pressing needs.
But a B-25C would be good. NOT a B25J, NOT a B25H. The early C version, so that we can at least PRETEND we have early bombers in the mix.
Blenheims, Halifaxes, maybe an early Ju88, He111, or some early bombers for those that actually like flying the early stuff.
Hell I'd fly B25s every time I wanted to bomb, if we had them.
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btw Soviet planes needs rockets!
La-5s and yaks carrier RS-82 and some Katyushas
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screw that list, i want a P47M!
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Originally posted by Flyboy
screw that list, i want a P47M!
Why the M ?
N is almost as fast, more manuverable, can carry ord, has more armour and alot better range.
And it was produced in serious numbers.
http://home.att.net/~Historyzone/Seversky-Republic8.html
"The XP-47N took to the air for the first time on July 22, 1944. Test comparisons were made with a P-47D-30-RE throughout the early portion of the evaluation period. Much to everyone’s surprise, the XP-47N, with its greater wingspan and higher weight actually proved to have better roll performance than the D model. At 250 mph TAS, the N attained a maximum roll rate just over 100 degrees/second. The P-47D-30-RE could manage but 85 degrees/second at the same speed. At higher speeds, the N widened the gap further. In mock combat with a P-47D-25-RE, the new fighter proved to be notably superior in every category of performance. In short, the XP-47 waxed the venerable D model regardless of who was piloting the older fighter. The new wing was part of this newfound ____dogfighting ability____, however, the more powerful C series engine played a role too. The additional horsepower allowed the N to retain its energy better than the older Thunderbolt. Perhaps the greatest performance increase was in maximum speed. Though not as fast as the stunning P-47M, the heavier N was fully 40 mph faster than the P-47D-25-RE and could generate speeds 30 mph greater than its principal rival, the Mustang. Scorching along at 467 mph @ 32,000 ft., ____the N could not be caught by any fighter in regular service with any air force on earth with the single exception of its M model sibling.____ This combination of wing and engine had pushed the N model up to the top rank of the superlative prop driven fighters then in existence."
"The testing program included determining the maximum range of the fighter. This was done with various combinations of fuel loads and external drop tanks. Ultimately, a test flight was made from Farmingdale to Eglin Field in Florida. The XP-47N took off with two 315 gallon drop tanks hanging from the under-wing hardpoints. Usable fuel in these tanks totaled 600 gallons. Added to the internal fuel load, the N eased off the runway with 1,170 gallons of fuel (usable). At a gross weight of 20,166 lbs., the Thunderbolt headed south in company with a P-47D chase plane. Arriving off the coast, east of Elgin in 3 hours, 44 minutes, the external tanks were dropped. Another P-47D, already waiting at Elgin, took on the N in a mock dogfight that lasted for twenty minutes. The throttle was advanced to military power for 15 minutes of this time, with an additional five minutes in the War Emergency Power (WEP) detent. After these fun and games were concluded the N was turned around and flown back towards Farmingdale. Heavy weather over Long Island caused the plane to divert to Woodbine, New Jersey. Having flown 1,980 miles, total fuel usage was measured at 1,057.5 gallons. There was still more than 112 gallons of usable fuel remaining in the main fuselage tank, enough for another 330 miles @ 1,700 rpm in auto-lean. ____The XP-47N was now the king of long-range single engine fighters____ (the all time leader of long range escorts was the P-38L-1-LO, which could claim a combat radius of nearly 1,500 miles under ideal conditions)."
"Eventually, ____1,816 P-47Ns____ were completed before the cancellation of the contract after Japan surrendered. The big fighters were deployed to the Pacific and were beginning to demonstrate their full potential when two atomic bombs put an end to the conflict. After the war, most of the P-47Ns were allocated to Reserve and Air Guard units, where they served faithfully until they were replaced by jets in the mid 1950s."
(http://home.att.net/~Historyzone/Xp-47n.jpg)
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That gushing article seems a bit superlative to me. I'm fairly sure that the 262 out ran it. Yet it says only the P47M was faster. Forget faster planes. Just more of a chance for newbies to run away in them!
Anyways, wait til the uber-super-over-powered-allied-flaps are reduced in efficiency, THEN wait for the planeset to be rounded out more, THEN introduce new allied fighters.
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Ive been waiting for the 47 N , what a MA ride that would be .
38
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P-61
P-39
P-63
MiG-3
B-25
:D
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wow, I must really be slipping. Once upon a time a thread like this couldn't go two days without me saying:
Judy, Judy, Judy
-Sik